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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Highlights are on TSG all right - but where the S means Saturday rather than Sunday.

You'll find both Dublin v Antrim and Wexford v Galway on The Saturday Game on the RTE Player.

As always with the RTE Player, be prepared to sit through a lot of ads!"
If you chromecast off a phone or tablet to a TV it skips the ads, well does for me anyway.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1490 - 25/04/2023 00:29:13    2473527

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Replying To Viking66:  "What happened Barney?"
Laois were given a free, rightly, after a late tackle on lad who had delivered a long ball into square. Ref (your boy Gearóid) then awarded a penalty, Presumably on basis of "where the ball landed." Not sure if that is actually the correct rule, and neither were the commentators. Ref then consulted linesmen and umpires and booked the corner back! Penalty taken and missed.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2400 - 25/04/2023 08:35:38    2473542

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Yeah strange one, fantastic win for Tipp but everything really went their way between poor wides and soft goals conceded by Clare."
It was a bit chaotic but managing chaos is often the key to success in any sphere!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2400 - 25/04/2023 10:26:50    2473587

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "If you chromecast off a phone or tablet to a TV it skips the ads, well does for me anyway."
Thanks

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11146 - 25/04/2023 12:56:42    2473683

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Laois were given a free, rightly, after a late tackle on lad who had delivered a long ball into square. Ref (your boy Gearóid) then awarded a penalty, Presumably on basis of "where the ball landed." Not sure if that is actually the correct rule, and neither were the commentators. Ref then consulted linesmen and umpires and booked the corner back! Penalty taken and missed."
He's a Tipp man living in Wexford, few refs in that scenario, Sean Stack originally a Clare man, Paud O'Dwyer is originally from Wexford.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1490 - 25/04/2023 12:59:43    2473684

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "Ah yeah fair enough you being frustrated at the result, its definitely not the start we wanted. But I think we will beat Wexford in Croker and hopefully they dont upset KK or Galway"
Time will tell, but I think you're mad moving home games to Croker.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2530 - 26/04/2023 17:56:40    2474091

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "Ah yeah fair enough you being frustrated at the result, its definitely not the start we wanted. But I think we will beat Wexford in Croker and hopefully they dont upset KK or Galway"
How many times does a result have to happen over a 5 or 6 year period before it isn't considered an upset any more?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11146 - 27/04/2023 07:38:52    2474139

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Time will tell, but I think you're mad moving home games to Croker."
Good, another person to complain to about this crazy decision on the part of our hurlers/management team.
Whatever hope we had in PP is gone v Galway in particular. But PP is such an advantage to Dublin I see it as crazy to give it up.
It will be the first thing I and many other Dublin supporters will be pointing to if we get null points from these.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1073 - 27/04/2023 09:02:05    2474150

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Good, another person to complain to about this crazy decision on the part of our hurlers/management team.
Whatever hope we had in PP is gone v Galway in particular. But PP is such an advantage to Dublin I see it as crazy to give it up.
It will be the first thing I and many other Dublin supporters will be pointing to if we get null points from these."
It's definitely a bold step by management. Croke Park is 144x86 metres. Parnell is 141x82 metres. Hard to believe 2 extra metres each side is going to make any difference to a game of hurling.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11146 - 27/04/2023 10:59:23    2474183

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Parnell was only ever an advantage when it was packed. And opposition was not fully geared up for what was going to be thrown at them, Especially under Anthony when he had them "like lunatics" as he once himself described Clare under Loughnane.

It is good pitch for close contact but likes of Cody loves all that and if it ever came to hand to hand combat, we only ever came out best 3/4 times maybe, League final in 2011, Portlaoise the two days in 2013 and a mad game down in Nowlan we won by a couple of points.

So Parnell was not really a factor in the big days. The team from 2010 - 2016 was good and had huge fight in them. Dublin don't have either attribute now.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2400 - 27/04/2023 11:25:01    2474192

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Parnell was only ever an advantage when it was packed. And opposition was not fully geared up for what was going to be thrown at them, Especially under Anthony when he had them "like lunatics" as he once himself described Clare under Loughnane.

It is good pitch for close contact but likes of Cody loves all that and if it ever came to hand to hand combat, we only ever came out best 3/4 times maybe, League final in 2011, Portlaoise the two days in 2013 and a mad game down in Nowlan we won by a couple of points.

So Parnell was not really a factor in the big days. The team from 2010 - 2016 was good and had huge fight in them. Dublin don't have either attribute now."
If you had Conn and Ciaran that time you wouldn't have been too far from an AI.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11146 - 27/04/2023 13:18:33    2474231

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Replying To Viking66:  "If you had Conn and Ciaran that time you wouldn't have been too far from an AI."
Callaghan was undoubtedly a huge loss. He was even more impressive at under 21 than he was with Cuala. But there's no point in rueing all that. It happens in other counties as well.

The one that really annoyed me was when Gilroy told Rory O'Carroll that he had to choose the senior footballers in 2010 which meant that he could no longer play with the under 21s. He missed out on a Leinster medal when Dublin beat your fellas. He was also a big loss when they were well beaten by Galway in the semi final.

One possible benefit of the fewer lads playing both at a serious level, even at club, is that the current crop of minors and 20s should mostly stay hurling. Makings of a decent team there if so.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2400 - 28/04/2023 10:26:21    2474325

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's definitely a bold step by management. Croke Park is 144x86 metres. Parnell is 141x82 metres. Hard to believe 2 extra metres each side is going to make any difference to a game of hurling."
Just because I'm a bit of a numbers nerd....that means the Croke Park pitch is 7% bigger than Parnell Park.

In these days of numerical analysis, sports science, GPS tracking, and all the rest, 7% might be seen as a significant difference all right. But I'm that not much of a nerd to be able to explain why!

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2126 - 28/04/2023 12:11:02    2474357

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Just because I'm a bit of a numbers nerd....that means the Croke Park pitch is 7% bigger than Parnell Park.

In these days of numerical analysis, sports science, GPS tracking, and all the rest, 7% might be seen as a significant difference all right. But I'm that not much of a nerd to be able to explain why!"
Parnell seems much smaller than it is, Very claustrophobic when it's full. Supporters can nearly touch the players. Indeed, it has happened! I'd say it's that aspect of it rather than the dimensions that might have been an advantage.

I don't think it is any more, and the surface can be really dreadful even in the Summer, That was another factor in MOD choosing the play in Croke Park I hear,


We'll know on Saturday week if he made the right one.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2400 - 28/04/2023 12:40:15    2474364

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Dublin v Offaly and Wexford v Cats under 20 semi finals. Wednesday i think.

Offaly be tough one for ourselves. Look very impressive and carrying on from last year minor. We probably be bookies favourites but not on my viewing.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2400 - 29/04/2023 17:10:53    2474540

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Dublin v Offaly and Wexford v Cats under 20 semi finals. Wednesday i think.

Offaly be tough one for ourselves. Look very impressive and carrying on from last year minor. We probably be bookies favourites but not on my viewing."
Barney, I don't know much about non-senior Dublin hurling or football.. But how many, if any, of this U20 team are dual players? I'm thinking along the lines that in most cases in Dublin, if a player has to choose /prioritise between hurling and football, they nearly always, or mostly, choose football.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2391 - 29/04/2023 18:07:42    2474546

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Barney, I don't know much about non-senior Dublin hurling or football.. But how many, if any, of this U20 team are dual players? I'm thinking along the lines that in most cases in Dublin, if a player has to choose /prioritise between hurling and football, they nearly always, or mostly, choose football."
We don't have to worry about now. Will be missing Paddy Doyle for rest of 20s I think. All in same boat in that regards of course.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2400 - 29/04/2023 19:50:18    2474560

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Comfortable win over Westmeath. Another terrible start but outscored them by a wide margin for the rest of the match. A few worrying looking injuries including Eoghan O'Donnell.

Wexford only beat Antrim by 4 so everything rests on the game in Croke Park. It's do or die for both I think.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2400 - 29/04/2023 19:52:07    2474562

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Comfortable win over Westmeath. Another terrible start but outscored them by a wide margin for the rest of the match. A few worrying looking injuries including Eoghan O'Donnell.

Wexford only beat Antrim by 4 so everything rests on the game in Croke Park. It's do or die for both I think.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2400 - 29/04/2023 20:08:48    2474569

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How bad is O'Donnell injury Barney? Catching up today as was away last 2 days and didn't see match.
I remember surface used to be bad on PP in the summer but I thought those problems gone away, no?
Again, its not even the dimensions of the pitch, altough Croke Park wider PP is just intimidating, close, crowd on top of the pitch. I know plenty of counties hate playing there. Crowd get up for matches there if anything to shout about.
If I am proven wrong I will be thrilled but I was looking forward to both Wexford and Galway in PP as I think it is worth 3 points to us.
Hard to call.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1073 - 30/04/2023 20:10:11    2474811

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