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Hard luck Dublin. I don't think anyone would have beaten Cork the way they played today. They'll be tough in the Final.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2592 - 06/07/2025 03:03:47    2623847

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Gutted by that now, I said I didn't know which of the 3 results would happen but the one I feared most was the one that happened.
We were absolutely obliterated in the full back line, it was a rough day. But those problems of not being crisp enough on the ball when it went in v Kilkenny were there again and as expected Cork pounced each time. A corner back HAS to get the ball secured first time and yes Cork were ravenous but we weren't sharp enough. We let way too much ball go in there also and the ball was top quality but some of our defending was nervy and error strewn. Crummey was a big loss but we weren't good enough all over the field.
We were so 1 dimensional but then in the first half the full forward line were doing well and the midfield started driving aimless pot-shots from the "great if they go over, morale sapping if they don't" category.
I've never been one for moral victories or "if's and buts", we were outclassed yesterday and that is the level we need to get to. We need players hurling the top counties more often and this is what we need to aspire to. I absolutely hate any tap on the head "hard luck Dublin" style BS because that's just accepting being average and I always rail against this attitude in everything in life. We have to aspire to be the best.
Hopefully EOD will rejoin the panel next year and give us another option at full back. He's not pulling up trees with the footballers.
Disappointing day and back to square 1 but the one thing I will say is the lads gave us some entertainment this year. The games v Wexford, Offaly and the spirited fightback v Kilkenny were great and the Limerick game unforgettable. But yesterday was a tough watch.
We have the right man in charge and hopefully we can strengthen the squad.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1429 - 06/07/2025 13:08:16    2623890

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Gutted by that now, I said I didn't know which of the 3 results would happen but the one I feared most was the one that happened.
We were absolutely obliterated in the full back line, it was a rough day. But those problems of not being crisp enough on the ball when it went in v Kilkenny were there again and as expected Cork pounced each time. A corner back HAS to get the ball secured first time and yes Cork were ravenous but we weren't sharp enough. We let way too much ball go in there also and the ball was top quality but some of our defending was nervy and error strewn. Crummey was a big loss but we weren't good enough all over the field.
We were so 1 dimensional but then in the first half the full forward line were doing well and the midfield started driving aimless pot-shots from the "great if they go over, morale sapping if they don't" category.
I've never been one for moral victories or "if's and buts", we were outclassed yesterday and that is the level we need to get to. We need players hurling the top counties more often and this is what we need to aspire to. I absolutely hate any tap on the head "hard luck Dublin" style BS because that's just accepting being average and I always rail against this attitude in everything in life. We have to aspire to be the best.
Hopefully EOD will rejoin the panel next year and give us another option at full back. He's not pulling up trees with the footballers.
Disappointing day and back to square 1 but the one thing I will say is the lads gave us some entertainment this year. The games v Wexford, Offaly and the spirited fightback v Kilkenny were great and the Limerick game unforgettable. But yesterday was a tough watch.
We have the right man in charge and hopefully we can strengthen the squad."
Dublin will absolutely nothing until the day comes when they have all the top hurlers in the county playing for the county. All the top counties have all the top players playing for them and Dublin are constantly handicapped because of this.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2422 - 06/07/2025 13:34:34    2623893

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Replying To Bon:  "Dublin will absolutely nothing until the day comes when they have all the top hurlers in the county playing for the county. All the top counties have all the top players playing for them and Dublin are constantly handicapped because of this."
They are, but that is a problem since Adam was a boy.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1429 - 06/07/2025 13:39:12    2623896

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "I don't post much the week of a match but I think tomorrow is a defining day which will set hurling in one of 2 trajectories.
Win, and its simply amazing and the build up to the final needs to be capitalised on like a football final would be.
Lose but give a good account will help bring new support back on board.
Lose badly, back to square 1.
I hope at least for the good account. I am cautiously optimistic that we can repeat the Limerick dose but I live in a world of cautious optimism. I don't believe its "bonus territory" because bonus territory is for no-hopers not for a county where lots of time and resources has been spent by people and the county board.
Having Conor Donohoe back is a huge plus because he was really good v Galway. I thought Crummey might go to DRA but anyway, its over and any player who gets another sent off I don't know how you could look in the mirror the day after it.
Can't wait now, got good tickets the minute they went on sale so delighted and hope its a great game and occasion.
Up the Dubs."
Who get who sent off? Crummey's tackle was a very poor one, in fact it wasn't a tackle, not in any coaching manual to stick an elbow towards or into an opponent's head. Surprised they even appealed it, stone wall red card and anyone who thinks otherwise is in a tiny minority

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2260 - 06/07/2025 13:46:31    2623900

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I think having Chris, Danny and EOD will make a massive difference when playing the TOP teams next year.

Need to learn from this, as I said. And that includes Niall - his one on one tactics yesterday backfired massively.
And we were so 1 dimensional in attack.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4448 - 06/07/2025 13:47:12    2623901

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Replying To Bon:  "Dublin will absolutely nothing until the day comes when they have all the top hurlers in the county playing for the county. All the top counties have all the top players playing for them and Dublin are constantly handicapped because of this."
I think you'll find that's an issue in loads of counties

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3823 - 06/07/2025 13:48:37    2623902

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Replying To Fionn:  "I think having Chris, Danny and EOD will make a massive difference when playing the TOP teams next year.

Need to learn from this, as I said. And that includes Niall - his one on one tactics yesterday backfired massively.
And we were so 1 dimensional in attack."
Sutcliffe's not getting any younger, but definitely EOD would make a massive difference, he'd make most county teams

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2422 - 06/07/2025 13:51:05    2623904

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Replying To Bon:  "Sutcliffe's not getting any younger, but definitely EOD would make a massive difference, he'd make most county teams"
Not a chance he'd be on Tipp, Limerick, Cork or Kilkenny side, definitely not now. His commitment has been questionable

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2260 - 06/07/2025 16:40:52    2623935

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I think you'll find that's an issue in loads of counties"
Do Cork, Kilkenny, Limerick, Wexford, Tipperary, Clare, Waterford, Galway have many top hurlers opting for the footballers?

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 971 - 06/07/2025 17:46:50    2623949

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A sickening day yesterday tbh.Firstly I was surrounded by Langers. Boy do they like the sound of their own voices.I had one lad telling me while eating his sangwedge how the 4 week break is going to kill Cork boy and afterwards saying we were unlucky to meet a Cork team that are flying. He then says sure you can shout for Cork in the final.No way Mister Langer. Our support was very poor yesterday and we were outnumbered 7 to 1 with a guess. Where are the great supporters that are able to go when the footballers doing great? Sorry lads but im pissed off. Last time I checked Croke park was in Drumcondra Dublin and our support was dire.I really felt for the hurlers and it made me realise alot of our supporters our as false as a toupee. The support for the footballers has waned too since we went down a notch.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 203 - 06/07/2025 18:53:21    2623967

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Do Cork, Kilkenny, Limerick, Wexford, Tipperary, Clare, Waterford, Galway have many top hurlers opting for the footballers?"
Dáithí plays football for Corofin and hurling for the county. Comer could have been a handy hurler but opted for the football. Imagine those two on the same team!

Crashingwaves (Galway) - Posts: 253 - 06/07/2025 20:00:27    2623981

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Replying To brayballer:  "A sickening day yesterday tbh.Firstly I was surrounded by Langers. Boy do they like the sound of their own voices.I had one lad telling me while eating his sangwedge how the 4 week break is going to kill Cork boy and afterwards saying we were unlucky to meet a Cork team that are flying. He then says sure you can shout for Cork in the final.No way Mister Langer. Our support was very poor yesterday and we were outnumbered 7 to 1 with a guess. Where are the great supporters that are able to go when the footballers doing great? Sorry lads but im pissed off. Last time I checked Croke park was in Drumcondra Dublin and our support was dire.I really felt for the hurlers and it made me realise alot of our supporters our as false as a toupee. The support for the footballers has waned too since we went down a notch."
Brilliant post Brayballer. Put a smile on my face to start the Monday!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8162 - 07/07/2025 08:37:39    2624045

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Brilliant post Brayballer. Put a smile on my face to start the Monday!"
Nice one bud.I swear you could nt make it up sitting beside those Langers.They are real full of themselves.Think they the best at everything and the real capital boy.Well jog on back to Langer town so. The langer beside me saying that Dublin gaa should show the tape of the match to every Dublin schoolkid and thats how they see the real skills. oh ffs man. I nearly got sick. Would love if Tipp won final.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 203 - 07/07/2025 13:59:01    2624131

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Do Cork, Kilkenny, Limerick, Wexford, Tipperary, Clare, Waterford, Galway have many top hurlers opting for the footballers?"
My own club would be the largest in Wexford at underage but have a huge exodus from juvenile to minor for soccer.

Wexford is somewhat unique in that we're a proper dual county. Most of our adult players would play both codes, and it's very often the case that the best hurlers are also the best footballers, not to mention to club schedule being half football is detrimental to their hurling because they're only doing it half the time.

I don't think Kilkenny, Waterford, Tipp etc. are like this.

Galway and Cork are proper dual counties too but with much larger playing numbers.

Our most successful club historically doesn't seem interested in the county team at all.

Football isn't the only reason some of your top hurlers may not want to be involved with the county team. I am saying that particular problem is not unique to Dublin.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3823 - 07/07/2025 15:01:32    2624161

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Replying To brayballer:  "A sickening day yesterday tbh.Firstly I was surrounded by Langers. Boy do they like the sound of their own voices.I had one lad telling me while eating his sangwedge how the 4 week break is going to kill Cork boy and afterwards saying we were unlucky to meet a Cork team that are flying. He then says sure you can shout for Cork in the final.No way Mister Langer. Our support was very poor yesterday and we were outnumbered 7 to 1 with a guess. Where are the great supporters that are able to go when the footballers doing great? Sorry lads but im pissed off. Last time I checked Croke park was in Drumcondra Dublin and our support was dire.I really felt for the hurlers and it made me realise alot of our supporters our as false as a toupee. The support for the footballers has waned too since we went down a notch."
Go to a Limerick or Cork football match (or Donegal/Kerry hurling match) and youll see the same or worse low level of support that our Hurlers get.

It was a bad day but overall it was a good year for Dublin hurling - Na Fianna winning the club All Ireland and NO'C getting to an All Ireland semi final in his first season. Onwards & upwards

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4654 - 10/07/2025 17:37:04    2624865

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Replying To sligo joe:  "Do Cork, Kilkenny, Limerick, Wexford, Tipperary, Clare, Waterford, Galway have many top hurlers opting for the footballers?"
Most of the Galway hurlers geographically come from South and East Gakway, from areas where there are usually no football clubs of senior or intermediate standard, so opting for football wouldn't even be an option for them. Football owns the North and West of Galway, largely to the complete exclusion of top notch hurling clubs. Where the hurling South/East region borders the football North/West, you'll get a handful of quality dual players trying their hand at both to senior/ intermediate standard......if they've time. Areas like Monivea/Abbey, Menlough/Skehana/Mountbellew, Ballygar, Turloughmore/Carnmore/Claregalway, Ahascragh/Caltra, Athenry, Ballinasloe until it flagged badly in both codes for the last 30 years, options too in and around Galway City to be a dual star one would imagine. I can't think of any top hurler opting to be a footballer since Alan Kerins came within a game of winning the Teddy McCarthy double in 2001, and subsequently won club all irelands in both codes with geographically distanced Clarinbridge and Salthill. He didn't give up hurling to make that football move though. McDaid might be the closest we have to 'a hurler' opting for football. He was a minor hurling all Ireland winner i think.

To cut a long story short, and to answer your question re. Galway.....not many.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4306 - 10/07/2025 19:37:15    2624888

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "Most of the Galway hurlers geographically come from South and East Gakway, from areas where there are usually no football clubs of senior or intermediate standard, so opting for football wouldn't even be an option for them. Football owns the North and West of Galway, largely to the complete exclusion of top notch hurling clubs. Where the hurling South/East region borders the football North/West, you'll get a handful of quality dual players trying their hand at both to senior/ intermediate standard......if they've time. Areas like Monivea/Abbey, Menlough/Skehana/Mountbellew, Ballygar, Turloughmore/Carnmore/Claregalway, Ahascragh/Caltra, Athenry, Ballinasloe until it flagged badly in both codes for the last 30 years, options too in and around Galway City to be a dual star one would imagine. I can't think of any top hurler opting to be a footballer since Alan Kerins came within a game of winning the Teddy McCarthy double in 2001, and subsequently won club all irelands in both codes with geographically distanced Clarinbridge and Salthill. He didn't give up hurling to make that football move though. McDaid might be the closest we have to 'a hurler' opting for football. He was a minor hurling all Ireland winner i think.

To cut a long story short, and to answer your question re. Galway.....not many."
I understand Jack Glynn was an excellent hurler too. The truth is there are plenty hurlers who would have been top footballers and vice versa, but they just happened to be from areas and clubs who focused on one code primarily, so their focus was on that once they reached their late teens. Daniel O'Flaherty and Cathal Sweeney from Salthill were excellent underage hurlers. They obviously weren't playing with a strong hurling club and football naturally became the main focus.
The Mannion brothers are very good footballers when playing for Caltra. If that was their sole focus from a young age, there's a good chance they would have reached a very high standard.
As I said before, if the Connolly's father hadn't gotten sick and the family stayed in Leitir Móir, they never would have picked up a hurl, much to the detriment of Galway hurling.
Even at club level, it's getting more difficult to be a dual player now, without feeling like at least one or both is suffering.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2422 - 10/07/2025 23:34:35    2624911

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