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Replying To Rockies:  "Cork lost to Galway by one point in hurling this year. We should examine Hawkeye and request replay. In fact, all games since Hawkeye was introduced can be looked at ! Lucky it's an amateur game or there would be lawsuits galore against Hawkeye and GAA! Am joking… but it is a joke"
I thought the buck from MASH was looking out the window and going Tá or Níl !

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7351 - 09/07/2022 20:14:33    2430834

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Replying To Newyorkkat:  "For both finals. Should have 3 umpires. 1 standing directly behind the goal"
And 3 referees, 4 linesman and 5 umpires… Enough of gomeless clowns there

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1937 - 09/07/2022 20:14:37    2430835

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "And 3 referees, 4 linesman and 5 umpires… Enough of gomeless clowns there"
Problem is with umpires

Newyorkkat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 129 - 09/07/2022 20:41:11    2430870

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Replying To Newyorkkat:  "For both finals. Should have 3 umpires. 1 standing directly behind the goal"
Fully agree! Hawkeye is done!Like any scientific test, once it's been proven as flawed, it's pretty much useless. It's a pity about all the games that have been affected, but we just have to move on! Let's get accurate scores on the 2 finals.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 09/07/2022 20:51:17    2430874

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Was it just me or was the Glass point for Derry in the first half and ruled out by hawkeye dodgy as well? How can hawkeye show the ball hitting the post when the ball clearly doesn't hit the post?"
Agree with you the commentary we're thinking it was a point right until Nil went up. You have to wonder how many scores have been chalked off that were good recently.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 09/07/2022 20:52:49    2430875

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Was it just me or was the Glass point for Derry in the first half and ruled out by hawkeye dodgy as well? How can hawkeye show the ball hitting the post when the ball clearly doesn't hit the post?"
If the flight of the ball is higher than the post the hawkers imaging extends the post to the flight of the ball. It's some mess now anyway.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 684 - 09/07/2022 20:57:38    2430878

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Replying To Newyorkkat:  "For both finals. Should have 3 umpires. 1 standing directly behind the goal"
1 standing with an alarm clock to waken them up.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2015 - 09/07/2022 21:07:26    2430884

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Replying To updwell:  "Agree with you the commentary we're thinking it was a point right until Nil went up. You have to wonder how many scores have been chalked off that were good recently."
Yes indeed. Its an effing computer. Things go wrong and it's expensive. The video ref is the way to go but that makes too much sense. The gaa hate following other sports like ladies football with the clock and rugby with the video ref. They followed their biggest enemy though with the yellow and red cards. The gaa are a disgrace with their lack of progression. It's also animated so I don't trust it anyway. Delighted today it proved inadequate.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3677 - 09/07/2022 21:11:43    2430889

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Replying To ecad123:  "So does this mean that the final whistle can in theory be overruled ? If the system finds that one of the points was wide after the final whistle making the game a draw, what happens then? Have we a cooling off period after the final whistle untill hawk gives the all clear? Like a boxing match when they go to the score cards?"
Absolutely! Legally, you are absolutely correct. In fact, results can be challenged on the basis of faulty score keeping!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 09/07/2022 21:25:47    2430899

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yes indeed. Its an effing computer. Things go wrong and it's expensive. The video ref is the way to go but that makes too much sense. The gaa hate following other sports like ladies football with the clock and rugby with the video ref. They followed their biggest enemy though with the yellow and red cards. The gaa are a disgrace with their lack of progression. It's also animated so I don't trust it anyway. Delighted today it proved inadequate."
I watched a ladies game with ref cam once and it was a bloody disaster. Horrible shaky camera, added nothing to the contest.
Whatever about anything else I hope we don't have to endure that in the years ahead.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1716 - 09/07/2022 21:27:46    2430901

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yes indeed. Its an effing computer. Things go wrong and it's expensive. The video ref is the way to go but that makes too much sense. The gaa hate following other sports like ladies football with the clock and rugby with the video ref. They followed their biggest enemy though with the yellow and red cards. The gaa are a disgrace with their lack of progression. It's also animated so I don't trust it anyway. Delighted today it proved inadequate."
Nail on the head again there Mick. They are so backwards its not funny at times. Video Ref and the clock is of course the way to go and it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than Hawkeye. Hawkeye has thrown up too many mistakes at this stage for me. If it was an employee making those mistakes they'd be fired.
I'll never understand the top brass's reluctance to try and improve things instead of persisting with the same old same old.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1911 - 09/07/2022 21:34:05    2430903

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Yes indeed. Its an effing computer. Things go wrong and it's expensive. The video ref is the way to go but that makes too much sense. The gaa hate following other sports like ladies football with the clock and rugby with the video ref. They followed their biggest enemy though with the yellow and red cards. The gaa are a disgrace with their lack of progression. It's also animated so I don't trust it anyway. Delighted today it proved inadequate."
Would higher uprights help for the human side?

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2015 - 09/07/2022 21:34:16    2430904

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Hawk eye my ass, watching it in real time , i knew it was a point all day long , what i couldent believe not 1 Galway player went nuts ,even walsh never said a word even though he knew as the kicker , it was over the bar,

germac (Down) - Posts: 535 - 09/07/2022 21:34:46    2430905

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Replying To updwell:  "Agree with you the commentary we're thinking it was a point right until Nil went up. You have to wonder how many scores have been chalked off that were good recently."
Well this is it, confidence has been damaged now.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 790 - 09/07/2022 21:42:25    2430909

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Replying To germac:  "Hawk eye my ass, watching it in real time , i knew it was a point all day long , what i couldent believe not 1 Galway player went nuts ,even walsh never said a word even though he knew as the kicker , it was over the bar,"
GAA players are scared of getting carded if they dispute with the referee. Shefflin got one on the sideline during Galway vs Limerick. We need a few more McEnroe types to dispute umpires. Black card to the GAA!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 10/07/2022 09:31:42    2430952

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Replying To germac:  "Hawk eye my ass, watching it in real time , i knew it was a point all day long , what i couldent believe not 1 Galway player went nuts ,even walsh never said a word even though he knew as the kicker , it was over the bar,"
Gleeson and John Daly were both extremely annoyed. They couldn't believe the decision, but I suppose they didn't want to risk getting booked early in a tight game.
I've mentioned a few potentially dodgy decisions by Hawkeye in recent weeks, including the U20 hurling final.
The GAA would help the situation greatly by releasing a statement and clarifying for everyone, but all we get is radio silence.
I'd be very surprised if they don't provide an explanation for yesterday's error though, as it was high-profile and so obvious.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2045 - 10/07/2022 10:00:32    2430959

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Is it beyond people's comprehension that umpires are not at fault here? Is that not obvious? Did yesterday not prove that? Posters here criticising umpires when it's technology that's at fault. Mind boggling

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1502 - 10/07/2022 10:47:00    2430973

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It's surely the end for Hawk eye… an expensive mistake

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1937 - 10/07/2022 10:48:48    2430974

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Hawk Aye. Not 'himself' at all. Could be Covid? Wasn't 'switched on' for the Leinster hurling final recently, but could have been 'in isolation' that night. Will be expecting 'a statement' from Michael Martin today on the matter. A tribunal would be a measured response to this matter, going forward.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3437 - 10/07/2022 11:00:18    2430980

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "It's surely the end for Hawk eye… an expensive mistake"
It used to function. Now it doesn't function. Would be interesting to know where and when and why it broke. A case for Primetime Investigates perhaps?

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3437 - 10/07/2022 11:05:56    2430983

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