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Replying To maroondiesel:  "please correct me if I am mistaken but was Comerford not kicked in the head?
He didn't feign injury imo"
Before penalty he went down for no reason and no one near him. He is certainly no Cluxton. I thought Mc Cann was bad but this was off the scale.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2294 - 11/07/2022 22:05:22    2431556

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Replying To festinog:  "McStay made one reference to that at the time, but Canning glossed over the whole incident with no mention of the black card 'time clock' and no questions raised about why Comerford was on the ground having appeared to sustain no injury or his miraculous recovery and ability to stay in goals for the penalty shot. Their overall tone for the game was reverential bordering on obsequious with neither team capable of putting a foot wrong. Indeed before the ball was even thrown in you had both talking at length about how yesterday was the de facto All-Ireland. It was poor commentating from start to finish, to put it mildly."
The RTE GAA dept are Kerry football fans. So it is not just Kerry GAA that Galway are taking on, it is the D4 sports establishment.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 12/07/2022 08:01:17    2431561

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "A wonderful post CiarriMick…. I have a feeling you are as gracious in defeat as you are in victory.. fair play to you…"
This post is, in my view a reason Cavan GAA are not good. Worship at the altar of the Kerry team. Not the Donegal or Tyrone one.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 12/07/2022 08:02:38    2431562

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Given Kerry's dominance in Gaelic football, 37 All Ireland titles. Should they be split into two teams.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2614 - 12/07/2022 08:06:49    2431564

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Replying To Peadarw:  "they arent being singled out ..every team comes in for criticism about it especially by the pindits but it was the lack of a mention of it at all i was alluding to
some lovely football played but a touch of hypocrisy (from the pundits not the fans )"
Fair enough Peadarw but other posters were on saying Kerry holding onto the ball and it's not right.My point is most teams do it and if you're ahead it's the smart thing to do Its not great to look at but it's a results business and teams will do what is needed to get over the line.i know Jack o Conor made that point when Donegal beat Kerry a few years back (in my opinion he should've been a bit more gracious in defeat and while for him (team)to play a style similar to it last Sunday does seem hypocritical ,you have to hold your hands up and say fair play to him for adapting his style to get the job done.To me it shows he is moving with the times and willing to try new things.Do I like no it's a hard watch sometimes but if you're not breaking any rules and it works why wouldn't you do it.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 344 - 12/07/2022 10:33:20    2431594

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "A wonderful post CiarriMick…. I have a feeling you are as gracious in defeat as you are in victory.. fair play to you…"
Thank you Forever. I like to be anyway. I might ve hurt but I will shake hands with the winning supporters and congratulate them. I also believe in being a good winner too. No taunting just enjoy the win with a few pints.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3917 - 12/07/2022 10:49:25    2431598

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Replying To galwayford:  "The RTE GAA dept are Kerry football fans. So it is not just Kerry GAA that Galway are taking on, it is the D4 sports establishment."
Wow you are very bitter Galwayford. Get over yourself. Glad the rest of Galway supporters not like you.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3917 - 12/07/2022 10:52:37    2431599

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Replying To galwayford:  "This post is, in my view a reason Cavan GAA are not good. Worship at the altar of the Kerry team. Not the Donegal or Tyrone one."
I'd say you are not very knowledgeable in gaa. Cavan don't have to worship anyone. Cavan won the only all ireland played abroad in New York beating Kerry. That's one of the most iconic finals ever. 1947 New York polo grounds. A record no other county has.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3917 - 12/07/2022 10:56:10    2431601

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Replying To P.Mckenna:  "I note how RTÉ Sunday Game referenced the length of time Comerford lay on the ground but never linked his leg/head injury & the impact it had on the black card. The clock should stop to eliminate this carry on. I also thought comerfords shaking the goal posts when O'Shea taking that final free was very juvenile. One thing for sure is he is no cluxton. Doesn't do himself any favours."
Well said.. one of the best posts I've seen here.. cluxton was never like this and would certainly condone this behaviour

showmehow (Kerry) - Posts: 8 - 12/07/2022 11:24:05    2431610

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "I mean when teams find tactics that put Kerry to the sword and claim victory over them as opposed to just turning up, bowing at the alter for them and taking their beating, like we've seen many times from counties in the past. Plenty of examples given on here of remarks made about the tactics and how it's not 'real football' etc when Kerry are the losers. When they benefit from the same tactics we're supposed to say business as usual? It SHOULD be business as usual but Kerry had the major issue with these tactics. So the likes of Jack O'Connor should at least own his opinions or admit he was wrong in the first place. Otherwise the sore loser tag is plain for all to see."
Why do you say that Kerry had major problems with defensive tactics! Not true! Spillane did but changed his view. Jack Ó Connor did but was ultra defensive with Kildare. The last 3 real attacking teams a few years ago were Galway Mayo Dublin Kerry. Galway changed under Kevin Walsh and Mayo Kerry and Dublin also became more defensive too with sweepers etc

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3917 - 12/07/2022 12:09:03    2431626

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Well done Kerry, very luck though. How did O Shea not see red? It would have been a shame for him to miss the final in fairness. Great talent.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1736 - 12/07/2022 12:58:39    2431639

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Well done Kerry, very luck though. How did O Shea not see red? It would have been a shame for him to miss the final in fairness. Great talent."
Because he did nothing wrong….. unlike Comer v Armagh who was involved in several altercations…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3845 - 12/07/2022 13:45:04    2431658

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Why do you say that Kerry had major problems with defensive tactics! Not true! Spillane did but changed his view. Jack Ó Connor did but was ultra defensive with Kildare. The last 3 real attacking teams a few years ago were Galway Mayo Dublin Kerry. Galway changed under Kevin Walsh and Mayo Kerry and Dublin also became more defensive too with sweepers etc"
Ah come on Mick, you'd have struggled to find a Kerry supporter with a kind word to say about the tactics used by Donegal and Tyrone to beat their beloveds back then. Spillane and O'Connor were just preaching to their parish with those comments. I know you to be a fair and measured poster on here so I respectfully disagree on that one.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2558 - 12/07/2022 15:06:12    2431690

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Because he did nothing wrong….. unlike Comer v Armagh who was involved in several altercations…"
Category III Infractions
5.15 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent with
arm, elbow, hand or knee.
5.16 To kick or attempt to kick an opponent, with
minimal force.
5.17 To behave in any way which is dangerous to an
opponent.
5.18 To spit at an opponent.
5.19 To contribute to a melee.
5.20 To use abusive language to a Referee, Umpire,
Linesman or Sideline Official.
5.21 To interfere with an Opposing Team Official by
minor physical interference e.g. laying a hand on,
pushing, pulling or jostling, on or off the Field of
Play.
PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Order offender off.
(ii) Free kick from where foul occurred,
except as provided under Exceptions of
Rule 2.2.
A kick to the head of an opponent lying on the ground is reckless and dangerous. Red Card.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1201 - 12/07/2022 15:14:02    2431692

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Ah come on Mick, you'd have struggled to find a Kerry supporter with a kind word to say about the tactics used by Donegal and Tyrone to beat their beloveds back then. Spillane and O'Connor were just preaching to their parish with those comments. I know you to be a fair and measured poster on here so I respectfully disagree on that one."
Fair enough Saffron but I must i also admit I hated Tyrone s style v Kerry in 03 semi but they played brilliant entertaining football beating us in 05 and 08 and I enjoyed it (not the result of course). I hated Donegal style v Dubs in 2011 but I enjoyed watching them in 2012 when they vest us. Also many I know here have the utmost respect for Tyrone and Donegal. Also our last three enthralling games were Dublin on Sunday Tyrone last year and the drawn super 8s v Donegal in 2019.Of course we all want a gung hó man for Man end to end stuff but it does nt happen anymore. Mickey Harte changed footballs defensive structure and Jimmy McGuinness brought it up a new level. The biggest compliment is that Dublin Kerry and Galway all took lots of it on board. Hoping for an exciting final though regardless.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3917 - 12/07/2022 15:34:04    2431701

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Well done Kerry, very luck though. How did O Shea not see red? It would have been a shame for him to miss the final in fairness. Great talent."
Any comment on C. Costello's "tackle" on the Kerry full-back at the 68th minute?

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 763 - 12/07/2022 16:13:20    2431720

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "Category III Infractions
5.15 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent with
arm, elbow, hand or knee.
5.16 To kick or attempt to kick an opponent, with
minimal force.
5.17 To behave in any way which is dangerous to an
opponent.
5.18 To spit at an opponent.
5.19 To contribute to a melee.
5.20 To use abusive language to a Referee, Umpire,
Linesman or Sideline Official.
5.21 To interfere with an Opposing Team Official by
minor physical interference e.g. laying a hand on,
pushing, pulling or jostling, on or off the Field of
Play.
PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Order offender off.
(ii) Free kick from where foul occurred,
except as provided under Exceptions of
Rule 2.2.
A kick to the head of an opponent lying on the ground is reckless and dangerous. Red Card."
Any comment on C. Costello's "tackle" on the Kerry full-back at the 68th minute?

Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 763 - 12/07/2022 16:49:16    2431728

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Replying To Proudroyal:  "Fair enough Peadarw but other posters were on saying Kerry holding onto the ball and it's not right.My point is most teams do it and if you're ahead it's the smart thing to do Its not great to look at but it's a results business and teams will do what is needed to get over the line.i know Jack o Conor made that point when Donegal beat Kerry a few years back (in my opinion he should've been a bit more gracious in defeat and while for him (team)to play a style similar to it last Sunday does seem hypocritical ,you have to hold your hands up and say fair play to him for adapting his style to get the job done.To me it shows he is moving with the times and willing to try new things.Do I like no it's a hard watch sometimes but if you're not breaking any rules and it works why wouldn't you do it."
100% id rather say my team won by being cute than lost trying to run through brick walls
i agree theres no reason it shouldbt be done
it just shouldnt be lambasted by pundits or ignored depending on the team
id honestly be happy enough now for either team to win sam so hope im not coming across as bitter or a sore loser
hope donegal can mix it up a bit better next year .bit more direct mixed with knowing WHEN to keep possesion

Peadarw (Donegal) - Posts: 43 - 12/07/2022 17:12:10    2431732

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Replying To Gaa Fan:  "
Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "Category III Infractions
5.15 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent with
arm, elbow, hand or knee.
5.16 To kick or attempt to kick an opponent, with
minimal force.
5.17 To behave in any way which is dangerous to an
opponent.
5.18 To spit at an opponent.
5.19 To contribute to a melee.
5.20 To use abusive language to a Referee, Umpire,
Linesman or Sideline Official.
5.21 To interfere with an Opposing Team Official by
minor physical interference e.g. laying a hand on,
pushing, pulling or jostling, on or off the Field of
Play.
PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Order offender off.
(ii) Free kick from where foul occurred,
except as provided under Exceptions of
Rule 2.2.
A kick to the head of an opponent lying on the ground is reckless and dangerous. Red Card."
Any comment on C. Costello's "tackle" on the Kerry full-back at the 68th minute?"
One red card at a time hey

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1201 - 12/07/2022 17:16:26    2431733

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "I mean when teams find tactics that put Kerry to the sword and claim victory over them as opposed to just turning up, bowing at the alter for them and taking their beating, like we've seen many times from counties in the past. Plenty of examples given on here of remarks made about the tactics and how it's not 'real football' etc when Kerry are the losers. When they benefit from the same tactics we're supposed to say business as usual? It SHOULD be business as usual but Kerry had the major issue with these tactics. So the likes of Jack O'Connor should at least own his opinions or admit he was wrong in the first place. Otherwise the sore loser tag is plain for all to see."
Saffron, I can't see what your problem is. Kerry played attacking football when they had to, they played defensive football when they had to, they kept the ball when they had to, perfect game management. Only problem I had was the booing when they played keep ball, were the supporters booing new to the game? Top two teams in Ireland and it went down to the wire.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2294 - 12/07/2022 17:50:50    2431742

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