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Replying To Freethinker:  "Again, Barney, just a few solutions or suggestions. This insidious narrative you are referring to is actually fact. The country is evolving. What are the alternatives that you have in mind ??"
You didn't respond to my earlier post.

Do you personally think there is a immigration problem in Ireland and in Europe?

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1754 - 19/04/2026 12:05:59    2667175

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "25% of population is born overseas. Do you think that none of them get sick, old, draw social welfare, get social housing, use buses, schools, and so on and so forth?

There is an insidious narrative here that Irish people are in some way beholden to people from outside of the country - immigrants, EU, tach corporations, housing investment funds and should just sit in the corner and be eternally grateful."
And of course those foreign people work and pay taxes, prsi etc .
Tech and multinationals employ 10s of thousands, of people,mainly due to us being in the EU (low tax of course helps).

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 491 - 19/04/2026 12:06:38    2667176

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Just over 17,000 homeless Irish people. Very few non Irish."
That is completely incorrect - https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/housing-planning/2025/11/25/non-irish-nationals-over-represented-in-homeless-services-officials-warn/

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1977 - 19/04/2026 12:20:19    2667183

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Replying To Seanfan:  "And of course those foreign people work and pay taxes, prsi etc .
Tech and multinationals employ 10s of thousands, of people,mainly due to us being in the EU (low tax of course helps)."
You are talking about an industrial estate, not a nation. Ireland as a convenience.

All persons coming here do not work, many pay little tax as they are in low wage jobs, many are in the "informal" economy employed by other non Irish, a third of prison population is non national, more than half of those entitled to emergency accommodation in Dublin region are non Irish. They all use doctors, hospitals, buses, roads, houses....

One quarter of GDP is taken out of country by overseas corporations.

So the benefits at this stage in my opinion do not outweigh the costs. There needs to be strict limits otherwise there will be no such thing as a distinct Irish nation by end of century. That is what all the population and demographic studies are telling us.

If you think that is a good thing, then fine. Happy days. I do not and thankfully will not be here to see it.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4202 - 19/04/2026 12:35:23    2667186

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Replying To Commodore:  "You didn't respond to my earlier post.

Do you personally think there is a immigration problem in Ireland and in Europe?"
I did, if you read it. Posted 2200 or so last night.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 2230 - 19/04/2026 13:01:46    2667193

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Another question. Interesting to see how many answers it gets. Define "Native Irish". How many generations do the self appointed heritage guardians judge as qualifying. I see many far right individuals when named with names that don't exactly go back to Brian Boru. In 50 yrs time, if these migrants are still here they may have grandchildren or great grandchildren. Would they be regarded as being Irish heritage that point. Look around at some of our seaboard counties and their inhabitants. Some would seem to figg to in quite well in Mediterranean countries. Wexford and some surrounding counties have many many Norman surnames. At what point were all these cultures absorbed into our "natural Irish heritage". Before someone gets on here, my parents both have surnames that go back beyond said Brian, with Mac Murrough Kavanagh and Cork Murphy's thrown in amongst many others.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 2230 - 19/04/2026 14:01:40    2667202

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