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usual nonsense about anthems, flags and all that rubbish. who really cares? KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 23/03/2023 19:06:59 2466105 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "I know… "Irelands call" is embarrassing and used as our anthem especially away from home.. Our national anthem should be played before all international matches…not that other muck" Agree with you on the Anthem. It's a pain listening to the other dreadful dirge. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 23/03/2023 20:00:15 2466111 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "Agree with you on the Anthem. It's a pain listening to the other dreadful dirge." I'm not big rugby supporter, and would be strongly against GAA bowing to pressure on anthem or flags or club/ground names, but I can actually see the point of Ireland's Call. It is the sport of many Irish unionists and they are the main part I think of IRFU in north - not to mention other parts closer to myself :-) - so I don't see the harm in it. Dreadful and all as it is. FAI have been far more ridiculous in their pre match gesturing nonsense which I don't think they have abandoned even yet? BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2522 - 24/03/2023 11:47:10 2466194 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "usual nonsense about anthems, flags and all that rubbish. who really cares?" The people giving their opinions on it I suppose. dolfos (Longford) - Posts: 109 - 24/03/2023 12:01:13 2466204 Link
It's astonishing how a little success breeds so much ignorance. People on here genuinely questioning the Irishness of Gary Breen, Kevin Kilbane, David Connolly and thousands more like them whilst championing the cause of Bundee Aki, CJ Stander et Al... streaker (Galway) - Posts: 497 - 24/03/2023 14:25:21 2466283 Link
Replying To streaker: "It's astonishing how a little success breeds so much ignorance. People on here genuinely questioning the Irishness of Gary Breen, Kevin Kilbane, David Connolly and thousands more like them whilst championing the cause of Bundee Aki, CJ Stander et Al..." There's certainly a lot more Irish in Breen, Kilbane or Connolly than Stander , Ali , Hansen and a few others.. But sure it's difference for the rugby set.. just when a song belted out over the speaker at the RDS got no media coverage or complaints while the same tune sung in the confines of a ladies dressing room caused a national uproar…. As a good journalist said " It's not about the song but it's about the singer"….. ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1898 - 24/03/2023 15:34:03 2466301 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "There's certainly a lot more Irish in Breen, Kilbane or Connolly than Stander , Ali , Hansen and a few others.. But sure it's difference for the rugby set.. just when a song belted out over the speaker at the RDS got no media coverage or complaints while the same tune sung in the confines of a ladies dressing room caused a national uproar…. As a good journalist said " It's not about the song but it's about the singer"….." Mack Hansens mother was born in Crok so you dont know what you are on about! KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 24/03/2023 15:59:02 2466315 Link
The anthem is supposed to bring people together. Irelands Call is inclusive in that everyone agrees it is crap but all can belt it out together. Job done bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 24/03/2023 16:10:07 2466322 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "There's certainly a lot more Irish in Breen, Kilbane or Connolly than Stander , Ali , Hansen and a few others.. But sure it's difference for the rugby set.. just when a song belted out over the speaker at the RDS got no media coverage or complaints while the same tune sung in the confines of a ladies dressing room caused a national uproar…. As a good journalist said " It's not about the song but it's about the singer"….." Sssshhhh... Stop stating facts. The red thumb brigade would be out in force if it was still an option. streaker (Galway) - Posts: 497 - 24/03/2023 16:57:16 2466332 Link
Replying To streaker: "It's astonishing how a little success breeds so much ignorance. People on here genuinely questioning the Irishness of Gary Breen, Kevin Kilbane, David Connolly and thousands more like them whilst championing the cause of Bundee Aki, CJ Stander et Al..." It is a strange one. Anyone with Irish parents is Irish. We saw the same nonsense with the Eurovision with people denying that John Lydon (Rotten) was Irish despite a Galway father and a Cork mother and a passport. Some of the same ones claiming that anyone off the blame from Algiers a wet week is Irish. The Irish soccer team is one of the main identifiers in Britain for Irish people of second and even third generation. Not that there is much competition. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2522 - 24/03/2023 17:37:03 2466337 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "I'm not big rugby supporter, and would be strongly against GAA bowing to pressure on anthem or flags or club/ground names, but I can actually see the point of Ireland's Call. It is the sport of many Irish unionists and they are the main part I think of IRFU in north - not to mention other parts closer to myself :-) - so I don't see the harm in it. Dreadful and all as it is. FAI have been far more ridiculous in their pre match gesturing nonsense which I don't think they have abandoned even yet?" Ok. Barney good point about the rugby. I think the bending the knee ritual is played out. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 24/03/2023 18:07:51 2466345 Link
The Premier League has become a farce. Break unfair FFP rules in place to help historic clubs always maintain their place at the top of the game to try to build a team or overspend and you get a fine/ points deduction/ transfer embargo/ relegation. Plot to create a European Super League that would have destroyed the game and there is no points deduction/ transfer embargo/relegation. Laughable. Ironically NFL in the USA (the home of capitalism) with their wage gaps etc have a much fairer system. Also how can Chelsea spend £600 million in a year or so under FFP?? The whole system is a farce. REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 24/03/2023 18:11:41 2466347 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "Mack Hansens mother was born in Crok so you dont know what you are on about!" I may be mixing him up with the other winger so Lowe and then we have Gibson Park… the list goes on…. We are only short of taking the green out of the jerseys… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1898 - 25/03/2023 08:22:11 2466383 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "I may be mixing him up with the other winger so Lowe and then we have Gibson Park… the list goes on…. We are only short of taking the green out of the jerseys…" The list doesnt go on and with the way migration has gone in the world you have to allow for people to qualify on residency rules. all countries in all sports use players who qualify on residency. nothing wrong with it. you can have people qualified for multiple countries between parental/grand parents heritage. with number of irish who emigrated out of ireland over the past decade and stay long term in those countries we could very easily see irish people represent those countries. we already have in australia with Sinead Diver, irish women who emigrated to Oz and represented them in marathon running at olympics in 2020. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 25/03/2023 10:58:55 2466399 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "I may be mixing him up with the other winger so Lowe and then we have Gibson Park… the list goes on…. We are only short of taking the green out of the jerseys…" we're not taking anything from jerseys. international eligibility has to be fluid because of the way migration works these days.. all sports do it with different time lengths allowed in different sports. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 25/03/2023 12:00:50 2466418 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "The list doesnt go on and with the way migration has gone in the world you have to allow for people to qualify on residency rules. all countries in all sports use players who qualify on residency. nothing wrong with it. you can have people qualified for multiple countries between parental/grand parents heritage. with number of irish who emigrated out of ireland over the past decade and stay long term in those countries we could very easily see irish people represent those countries. we already have in australia with Sinead Diver, irish women who emigrated to Oz and represented them in marathon running at olympics in 2020." KF. How many of the Rugby Team, from other countries, have a family connection to Ireland, I.e I think Jamieson Gibson Park has Irish familial ties? . thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1735 - 25/03/2023 12:29:33 2466426 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "we're not taking anything from jerseys. international eligibility has to be fluid because of the way migration works these days.. all sports do it with different time lengths allowed in different sports." You might as well bark at the moon. After one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements ever, and the usual begrudgers come on here putting the team down. The anthem, the flag, the non-Irish born players, repeated ad nauseam. Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2447 - 25/03/2023 12:51:28 2466433 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "You might as well bark at the moon. After one of Ireland's greatest sporting achievements ever, and the usual begrudgers come on here putting the team down. The anthem, the flag, the non-Irish born players, repeated ad nauseam." It would be more of an achievement if the team was actually Irish…… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1898 - 26/03/2023 12:59:34 2466644 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "The list doesnt go on and with the way migration has gone in the world you have to allow for people to qualify on residency rules. all countries in all sports use players who qualify on residency. nothing wrong with it. you can have people qualified for multiple countries between parental/grand parents heritage. with number of irish who emigrated out of ireland over the past decade and stay long term in those countries we could very easily see irish people represent those countries. we already have in australia with Sinead Diver, irish women who emigrated to Oz and represented them in marathon running at olympics in 2020." The Irish Ladies soccer team has a number of Irish Americans on it I think 4 in all. But residency rules are different in all sports, some are very lax for instance Athletics, Rugby and Soccer. But in truth you are right its the way of sport. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 26/03/2023 17:29:02 2466790 Link
Replying To arock: "The Irish Ladies soccer team has a number of Irish Americans on it I think 4 in all. But residency rules are different in all sports, some are very lax for instance Athletics, Rugby and Soccer. But in truth you are right its the way of sport." I wouldnt call rugby lax. 5 years to qualify when you consider how long most careers its a considerable chunk of a career. I wouldnt say athletics are very lax either its three years. If you call 3 and 5 years lax what would you consider better or more suitable then arock? KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 04/04/2023 15:46:21 2468824 Link