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I'm not anti Vax at all. As people have said it wiped out a number of diseases, most notably polio. My kids got all their vaccines but neither myself nor my wife got the COVID jabs for a couple of reasons. 1. The testing was rushed and the standards were changed in order to get it released. 2. The restrictions imposed on people who made that choice is exceptionally authoritarian which I felt was outrageous. The whole approach made me very suspicious. I also don't approve of the flu vaccine. The data suggests it isn't effective and it's not necessary for the majority of society. That I believe is a money spinner. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4079 - 16/12/2025 15:42:55 2648566 Link 4 |
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Get all the vaccines you want but don't force others to get them. Proven? By who? Why did Biden pardon Faucci? What could a hero like him need a pardon for? I am personally not against any vaccine as long as the relevant information is out there and that includes afterwards. Big Pharma can make all the money they want as long as it's honest money.
SouthGalway (Galway) - Posts: 133 - 16/12/2025 15:45:44 2648568 Link 1 |
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I feel they were for the majority safe you will always get outliers like the poor man in Waterford who had J&J one. I had that one too, purely for convenience it was one jab and had zero issues I would have doubts it was necessary for everyone to take bar the vulnerable and feel it was wrong to mandate and exclude the unvaccinated. I feel power was ceded a bit by government to TH and co who had a vested interest. jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 16/12/2025 15:47:55 2648570 Link 2 |
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Any polio, small pox, measles around these days?
Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 279 - 16/12/2025 15:58:12 2648571 Link 0 |
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The most recent French one was the largest ever on Covid Findings In this cohort study including 22.7 million vaccinated individuals and 5.9 million unvaccinated individuals, vaccinated individuals had a 74% lower risk of death from severe COVID-19 and no increased risk of all-cause mortality over a median follow-up of 45 months. Given the vindictiveness of the current administration do you not think that if there was some sort of coverup around the vaccines that it would not be front and center. There has been zero attention focused on it by the administration and that is with a anti vaxer in charge. zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2136 - 16/12/2025 18:19:35 2648582 Link 0 |
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The compulsory nature of vaccines in an emergency will always be a tough one to deal with. If you think about vaccines as something that only protects you then you miss the point. Our public health systems are not equipped to deal with mass outbreaks of anything, that's not how they work and even today as we have an aging population we are seeing the original premise on which our public health systems were formed being put under massive strain, in addition to that you have the modern issues of obesity and diabetes. So there are two things - not everyone can get vaticinated and therefore those who can and don't put these people at greater risk and the second even if you are willing to take the risk that you will end up in hospital that is now putting the system under further strain because you did not want to take the vaccine. In an outbreak like covid what do you do? MMR was first stated to be used across the county in children in 1988 and in 2017 the WHO declared Ireland measles free. It took us forever to get to the 95% target. These were not the generals sitting safely behind away from the battle, these were people who were taking the same vaccine that we were asked to take. Authoritarian, there are accepted limits on free will for the sake of society, why was this any different? The biggest problem for me that came out of Covid is that technology will solve everything and that carries over into how people think about climate change and what we are doing to our environment.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2136 - 16/12/2025 19:35:25 2648584 Link 1 |
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I think the whole world and its uncle know why Faucci was pardoned. Did he serve under 6 presidents ?? That'd be a lot, anyway, if he did , he only fell foul of one and no prizes for guessing who that was.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1972 - 16/12/2025 20:22:13 2648587 Link 0 |