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Already we have people claiming the only reason there's backlash is because it's the womens team and wouldn't happen if it was the men. Despite there being examples to the contrary...

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1158 - 14/10/2022 09:22:34    2443927

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Yeah I don't think telling people to educate themselves on Irish history is the best way to get them to stop singing Irish rebel songs.. :P

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8278 - 14/10/2022 09:49:25    2443937

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "The tricolour is already more inclusive than the union jack."
The Union Jack has sometimes been called the butcher's apron. The inclusion of the two traditions is lost on the more extreme unionist frame of mind.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1443 - 14/10/2022 11:48:06    2443954

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It was naive at best.

I for one take great exception to a British journalist telling us we need to be better educated on Irish history.

Rebel songs are part of our culture. That is their fault, not ours.

Furthermore, the average British person knows nothing of their history beyond the 2 world wars."
The ladies have helped the Wolftones into the charts in England, fair play,

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1502 - 14/10/2022 17:48:08    2443997

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The World Cup is fast approaching and I wonder is the relentless playing schedule going to cause problems? The top players are very well paid and looked after but the sheer volume of games inevitably leads to injuries and breakdown. Off the top of my head it looks as though Reece James, Diogo Jota, Ngolo Kante and possibly Kyle Walker are going to miss the World Cup. There will undoubtedly be more in the weeks ahead.

The likes of FIFA and UEFA are supposed to be the guardians of the game but in reality are just money mad corporations with very questionable ethical records. They continue to pile more and more games on to an already congested calendar diluting competition quality as they go. I think the next World Cup is going to have 48 teams? The Euros have similarly become very bloated. OK it might mean Ireland have a better chance of qualifying but the overall tournament quality suffers. The Champions League is a non-event really until the 2nd round, or often times even until the quater finals. But hey, something has to fill the TV schedules I suppose.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8278 - 19/10/2022 09:26:30    2444562

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What a mess they continue to make of things across the water. My God what will they come up with next. At least something is going right for Putin these days. The discord he helped sow in the US (Trump) is being matched in the UK (Brexit).

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8278 - 20/10/2022 15:01:21    2444793

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "What a mess they continue to make of things across the water. My God what will they come up with next. At least something is going right for Putin these days. The discord he helped sow in the US (Trump) is being matched in the UK (Brexit)."
??? What do you mean across the water. Our leaders are making a mess of things here too aren't they? The only reason irish politics isn't a circus is that over here they don't have to resign, no matter how incompetent they are lol.

Can I ask your opinion on the role Putin played in the recent political discord in Sweden and Italy?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1359 - 20/10/2022 20:13:28    2444855

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Replying To Galway9801:  "??? What do you mean across the water. Our leaders are making a mess of things here too aren't they? The only reason irish politics isn't a circus is that over here they don't have to resign, no matter how incompetent they are lol.

Can I ask your opinion on the role Putin played in the recent political discord in Sweden and Italy?"
Oh our's are no great shakes either I'm well conscious of that. The way they are treating those affected by the MICA crisis up here and in other areas is nothing short of an utter disgrace. That's only one example close to home. The housing crisis has never been properly addressed by successive governments and I'm inclined to think there is no particular political will to do it either given that a lot of them are landlords themselves and deeply associated with the development/construction industry.

I haven't read too much about the recent far-right election wins in the countries you mention. It's quite concerning that western European countries are leaning to the right again though. You don't need a comprehensive history lesson to remember what happened before, when a series of far right governments rose to power in Europe.

Although it has never been proven, there are indications that Russia influenced the Brexit vote. Their army of bots regularly posted far-right, anti-immigration, anti-Muslim rhetoric across various social media platforms. Given that the Brexit vote was so close, it is estimated that if even one person out of 50 across the voting population was influenced, it could have been enough to swing the vote decisively.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8278 - 21/10/2022 09:16:35    2444875

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Oh our's are no great shakes either I'm well conscious of that. The way they are treating those affected by the MICA crisis up here and in other areas is nothing short of an utter disgrace. That's only one example close to home. The housing crisis has never been properly addressed by successive governments and I'm inclined to think there is no particular political will to do it either given that a lot of them are landlords themselves and deeply associated with the development/construction industry.

I haven't read too much about the recent far-right election wins in the countries you mention. It's quite concerning that western European countries are leaning to the right again though. You don't need a comprehensive history lesson to remember what happened before, when a series of far right governments rose to power in Europe.

Although it has never been proven, there are indications that Russia influenced the Brexit vote. Their army of bots regularly posted far-right, anti-immigration, anti-Muslim rhetoric across various social media platforms. Given that the Brexit vote was so close, it is estimated that if even one person out of 50 across the voting population was influenced, it could have been enough to swing the vote decisively."
After the ****shows of Trumpian America and the last 6 years of Brexitbrit ERG chaos and comedy you'd hope people woukd see right wing extremism for what it is - brainless nastiness appealing to the lowest common denominator .
Thank God for PR which means there have to be compromises and mainly centrist Governments.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 554 - 21/10/2022 11:45:05    2444904

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "After the ****shows of Trumpian America and the last 6 years of Brexitbrit ERG chaos and comedy you'd hope people woukd see right wing extremism for what it is - brainless nastiness appealing to the lowest common denominator .
Thank God for PR which means there have to be compromises and mainly centrist Governments."
Yep. These far right groups tend to gain traction in times of uncertainty and financial strife. Worried people look to blame someone or some thing, and it's usually minority groups. Unscrupulous right-wing parties look to fuel that fire. Just listen to Suella Braverman, & before her Priti Patel, talking about immigration would make your blood boil. Themselves successful immigrant stories. It would be reason enough for me never, ever to vote for the Tories if I was a UK citizen. I'm not saying the Conservatives are a far-right party btw, but you'd wonder worryingly what way the wind is blowing.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8278 - 21/10/2022 13:31:45    2444923

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yep. These far right groups tend to gain traction in times of uncertainty and financial strife. Worried people look to blame someone or some thing, and it's usually minority groups. Unscrupulous right-wing parties look to fuel that fire. Just listen to Suella Braverman, & before her Priti Patel, talking about immigration would make your blood boil. Themselves successful immigrant stories. It would be reason enough for me never, ever to vote for the Tories if I was a UK citizen. I'm not saying the Conservatives are a far-right party btw, but you'd wonder worryingly what way the wind is blowing."
Well seeing as how it's the mainstream politicians who oversaw this uncertainty and strife I'd hardly have much faith in them either.
Can I ask if you think that immigration has played any part in our current housing crisis?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1359 - 21/10/2022 14:39:08    2444937

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "After the ****shows of Trumpian America and the last 6 years of Brexitbrit ERG chaos and comedy you'd hope people woukd see right wing extremism for what it is - brainless nastiness appealing to the lowest common denominator .
Thank God for PR which means there have to be compromises and mainly centrist Governments."
Sweden was held up as a beacon of progressive light here in Europe until just recently when they decided to vote for a right wing government.
How does that work?
A few years ago they were the sensible mature Liberal Swedish and now what, all of a sudden they're the "lowest common denominator" ?
Ridiculous.
I find alot of what progressives says about immigrants to be very condescending, as if they're speaking about helpless lost children and not fully grown adults who themselves aren't prefect believe it or not.
Can I ask if you believe that immigrants themselves are free of prejudice?

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1359 - 21/10/2022 20:13:35    2444978

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Well seeing as how it's the mainstream politicians who oversaw this uncertainty and strife I'd hardly have much faith in them either.
Can I ask if you think that immigration has played any part in our current housing crisis?"
Well there's no doubt that immigration has exacerbated an already problematic issue. But I certainly would not blame immigrants. We've had a problem with housing long before Putin invaded Ukraine, or ISIS & Assad's butchery in Syria.

I see a lot of online commentary about looking after our own first. That kind of attitude doesn't sit well with me. Immigrants are an easy target. For generations Irish people have sought a better life so a bit of self awareness wouldn't go amiss.

The saying, "punch up, not down" is one I'd subscribe to. We'd be far better off holding those in power properly to account than taking our frustrations out on poor people fleeing despotic lunatics.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8278 - 21/10/2022 20:23:01    2444981

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Well there's no doubt that immigration has exacerbated an already problematic issue. But I certainly would not blame immigrants. We've had a problem with housing long before Putin invaded Ukraine, or ISIS & Assad's butchery in Syria.

I see a lot of online commentary about looking after our own first. That kind of attitude doesn't sit well with me. Immigrants are an easy target. For generations Irish people have sought a better life so a bit of self awareness wouldn't go amiss.

The saying, "punch up, not down" is one I'd subscribe to. We'd be far better off holding those in power properly to account than taking our frustrations out on poor people fleeing despotic lunatics."
Agree with almost all of that, except for the last sentence. Many immigrants aren't fleeing despotic lunatics, nor are many of them fleeing starvation etc, theres just a better deal for them here, and as you say, they're right to go for it.
Most of us would do the exact same in their position.

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1359 - 21/10/2022 21:19:52    2444988

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Replying To Galway9801:  "Agree with almost all of that, except for the last sentence. Many immigrants aren't fleeing despotic lunatics, nor are many of them fleeing starvation etc, theres just a better deal for them here, and as you say, they're right to go for it.
Most of us would do the exact same in their position."
Plenty of Irish people have also emigrated for economic reasons too. But I'd agree that it does seem that that we're a good bit more generous than other countries when it comes to social welfare payments. Undoubtedly there are some who seek to exploit that.

When the war in Ukraine is over & there us some sort of normality, I'd expect to see the vast majority of them heading back home. I don't think it's fair or sustainable to keep welfare payments up indefinitely.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8278 - 22/10/2022 13:32:39    2445019

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Putin getting the blame for all the extra expense that goes on in the world. Shell make over 8 billion in the last 3 months, blame Putin.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1502 - 27/10/2022 12:32:46    2445641

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Putin getting the blame for all the extra expense that goes on in the world. Shell make over 8 billion in the last 3 months, blame Putin."
Yeah and you also have the double whammy of the damage to the climate that the big oil companies are doing. The recent UN report on climate change and the plans to reduce our carbon footprint are alarming to say the least. It will be our children and grandchildren who suffer most from our intransigence. So long as huge profits are being made though, a reversal will be extremely difficult.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8278 - 28/10/2022 12:01:14    2445773

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It is long past time that the Irish and British governments stop pandering to the DUP and Unionism. They need to be told in no uncertain terms that the alternative to Stormont is joint authority and a border poll. Unionism has caused enough trouble, evil and strife on this island over hundreds of years. Enough is enough.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1566 - 28/10/2022 14:56:22    2445804

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "It is long past time that the Irish and British governments stop pandering to the DUP and Unionism. They need to be told in no uncertain terms that the alternative to Stormont is joint authority and a border poll. Unionism has caused enough trouble, evil and strife on this island over hundreds of years. Enough is enough."
I agree. It's farcical what's been going on. The DUP campaigned and strongly advocated for a hard Brexit despite all evidence and expertise suggesting it was an act of complete economic idiocy. They then go and protest against the very protocol that their esteemed leaders Boris and co negotiated. They're holding the country to ransom while their toys are out of the pram. All the while the people they are supposed to be representing are struggling with real issues. The next election will be interesting whenever it happens. Hopefully their status will be even more diminished and the grown ups can get on with fixing things in Northern Ireland for their constituents.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 8278 - 29/10/2022 11:46:31    2445844

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Exactly. The DUP had chances to vote for a soft Brexit but didn't. They got the Brexit they wanted now they have buyers remorse and they don't want it as the border had to be put in the Irish sea instead of a hard land border. Unionism is a beaten docket. The DUP have gambled on an idiotic Brexit that has destroyed their "precious Union".

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1566 - 30/10/2022 09:09:26    2445924

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