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Wexford Hurling Championship 2022

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Anonymous internet man says he's close....oh well it must be true so. Why not reveal your identity then instead of hiding behind anonimity and claiming to be "a lot closer than you think"?

it can very often be claimed that "Manager X said he won't make the county team if he doesn't transfer. "
Well if that was a policy, then why didn't he make it anyway? Because maybe club game has a negligible impact on whether you can hurl county or not? I would hazard a guess, that he wouldn't have been any closer/further from being in the squad had he stayed.

And secondly, if it only matters hurling for a top county, or development squads are not bridging the gap for "smaller" clubs, why was your county minor team full of players from Bannow, Ballyhogue, Rathgarogue, Blackwater, and so on?

It has always amazed me how many Wexford people have that attitude. It was never part of the Dublin psyche."
Look to be honest it was the case in Wexford for a long long time, thats just a fact, i personally know players who were told that in no uncertain terms, in fact one of them upon telling a "legend" of wexford hurling whilst at u14 County trials where he was from was told not to be wasting their time.

But just to clarify thats many many moons ago and most definietly isnt the case anymore, i would say that prehistoric thinking started to be eroded some 20 years ago or so.

Hurling 365 was a huge help in that approach along with the development squad approach and to be fair to Liam Dunne he trawled the county when he took over and looked at all levels, he brought it on a huge amount.

Id be surprised if it was the case any more to be honest

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1044 - 16/08/2022 15:35:35    2437684

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Replying To countyman2022:  "That is untrue on every level regarding that transfer.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 16/08/2022 12:05:04

So why did he transfer then if its untrue?? Please enlighten me.

He did make it. He came in onto the Wexford panel during the Leinster Championship. I wouldn't expect you to know that however. So your whole argument looks ridiculous. Obviously hurling club senior wasn't negligible for him making the senior panel.

The Dublin psyche? Because the Dublin hurlers are a great example to follow. Very successful."
Well I will remind you it is not part of the Kilkenny psyche then and there are hundreds of All-Ireland medals in junior clubs in Kilkenny.
They are very successful. Does that make you feel better?

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 440 - 16/08/2022 16:22:02    2437692

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Replying To Punter72007:  "I agree with you ... if you are making the point (which I think you are) that underage development squads plug the gap between standards at a senior and a junior club. And then also visibility to the relevant managers/selectors.

I do know of a 1-2 cases, way back 30 years ago where lads that were very good county minors (u-18) and then had only hurled with their local junior club in between for 2-3 years, before trying out unsuccessfully for U-21 level ... and they felt they lost out due to not hurling at a higher standard with their local junior club.

I think it's an awful choice for a junior hurler ... transfer to a senior club where you know you have a chance of a senior medal, test yourself against better players and be seen more by a county manager or stick with the club that put years of coaching into you and play with your friends.
Probably if you are on a development squad, this negates it - but let's say you are not the top star like Mathew O'Hanlon, and you are borderline player that could be a good enough for the wider county panel but have potential to improve if you are playing at a higher standard ... then I think that choice becomes a lot more grey.

I think the situation is different for intermediate clubs because the standard is good enough and if you are a star performer, you will be seen.

Ultimately it comes down to a personal choice.
Am interested to hear other perspectives ..."
That was the very point I was trying to make.
There is no denying a young chap in Oulart or Rathnure or wherever will get higher coaching than a chap in many other clubs. But development squads do bridge that gap and for anybody to claim a player was told he must transfer to a senior club to play for Wexford, I am not buying that.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 440 - 16/08/2022 16:24:06    2437693

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Well I will remind you it is not part of the Kilkenny psyche then and there are hundreds of All-Ireland medals in junior clubs in Kilkenny.
They are very successful. Does that make you feel better?"
No i'd rather you talk more about Dublin.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 278 - 16/08/2022 16:48:50    2437704

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Replying To rossytilidie:  "David Dunne hurling Junior, Matt O'Hanlon was hurling Junior when brought into Wex setep. Andrew Shore (albeit, he was in Dublin for a while I think). Cathal Dunbar (until he jumped ship). Mitch Jordan, a fellow Marshalstown man. If you're good enough it doens't matter who you hurl with. Probably does help to be playing at Senior Level but wouldn't see it as a reason to be leaving you're own (Struggling club, I'm basing this on the fact they were in a relegation final).
Am sure there are many more examples, both within and outside of Wexford.
David Clifford......!"
And Gearoid Hegarty in Limerick.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1726 - 16/08/2022 17:09:19    2437708

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Replying To Bon:  "And Gearoid Hegarty in Limerick."
Picking only lads from soley from senior teams like Orlart, Rathnure etc during the late 00s and early 10s certainly did not help and some of the worst days out for the senior hurlers came during these days. Liam Dunne changed this when he came in (ironically a lad from one of the big clubs) and infairness looked all over the county for lads. Helped get wexford out of an awful position, looked like we could've gone the offaly route there for a while. No offense to th lads who were playing but too much was read in to them winning senior county titles..especially when it wasn't exactly like they were hovering up club Leinster/all Ireland titles. Wexfords selection process has definitely improved for the better.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 102 - 17/08/2022 19:13:06    2437814

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Replying To WEX98:  "Lads, share your club hurling all stars 1 to 15 after Sundays games and I'll compile.

Closing date for nominations Friday evening."
Are you going to put up your team Wex98?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6074 - 17/08/2022 21:55:09    2437830

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Darragh Egan reckons the 4 lads will be back for the Walsh Cup in January

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6074 - 18/08/2022 09:07:17    2437837

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Replying To Viking66:  "Darragh Egan reckons the 4 lads will be back for the Walsh Cup in January"
Is this Kevin Foley , 2 Recks and Paudie Foley? I noticed he mentioned Damien will be back on the hurling podcast

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 618 - 18/08/2022 10:45:28    2437857

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Is this Kevin Foley , 2 Recks and Paudie Foley? I noticed he mentioned Damien will be back on the hurling podcast"
Yes that's what he said.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6074 - 18/08/2022 11:23:12    2437862

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Replying To Viking66:  "Yes that's what he said."
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/darragh-egan-is-confident-oz-bound-wexford-quartet-will-return-41914421.html

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6074 - 18/08/2022 15:42:56    2437923

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Club team of the year
1.james lawlor
2.simon Donohue
3.liam Ryan
4.patrick been
5.james peare
6.richie kehoe
7.jack Kelly
8.adohan Doyle
9.kevin Doyle
10.johnny Dwyer
11.lee chin
12.ricky fox
13.paul Morris
14.kyle Firman
15.oisin pepper

Couple could of made it maybe,Conor Firman,luke Murphy,Corey Dunbar

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 193 - 19/08/2022 08:43:04    2437970

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Replying To theboys:  "Club team of the year
1.james lawlor
2.simon Donohue
3.liam Ryan
4.patrick been
5.james peare
6.richie kehoe
7.jack Kelly
8.adohan Doyle
9.kevin Doyle
10.johnny Dwyer
11.lee chin
12.ricky fox
13.paul Morris
14.kyle Firman
15.oisin pepper

Couple could of made it maybe,Conor Firman,luke Murphy,Corey Dunbar"
Not only should Conor Firman be on the team, I'd be surprised if he isn't in the running for player of the year.

And Corey Dunbar outperformed, by a considerable margin, both of the Rapps lads you listed in the forwards.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 459 - 19/08/2022 10:23:13    2437986

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Replying To Onfor15:  "Not only should Conor Firman be on the team, I'd be surprised if he isn't in the running for player of the year.

And Corey Dunbar outperformed, by a considerable margin, both of the Rapps lads you listed in the forwards."
Has to be said while I think Pepper is one of our better young prospects at intercounty I didn't think he was brilliant against Ferns in the semi this year. Unless he was lights out in the rest of the championship was he?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6074 - 19/08/2022 11:07:39    2437991

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Replying To Viking66:  "Has to be said while I think Pepper is one of our better young prospects at intercounty I didn't think he was brilliant against Ferns in the semi this year. Unless he was lights out in the rest of the championship was he?"
Pepper was average at best for most of the championship, couldnt understand him being brought into the county set up, maybe in 2 years or so hopefully he will be but not at the moment.

alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 300 - 19/08/2022 13:25:28    2438021

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Is this Kevin Foley , 2 Recks and Paudie Foley? I noticed he mentioned Damien will be back on the hurling podcast"
That's great news. I was worried we'd be in real trouble if we lost that group for the year ahead.

Selskarexile (Wexford) - Posts: 20 - 19/08/2022 14:02:43    2438031

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Replying To Viking66:  "Has to be said while I think Pepper is one of our better young prospects at intercounty I didn't think he was brilliant against Ferns in the semi this year. Unless he was lights out in the rest of the championship was he?"
No he wasn't. In fact his brother was better off the bench vs. Ferns than Oisin was over the course of every other game. It still astounds me that he got a run that day vs. Dublin.

I see in the hurling podcast, Bernie was basically knocking the football again. Claiming it will effect Ferns' Leinster campaign, even though there is roughly a months gap between the end of one (should they get that far) and the start of the other. We also had Egan on it positive about football, yet he is calling in lads to do S and C already when they should be focusing on their clubs.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1261 - 20/08/2022 11:15:03    2438092

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A lot of football people don't realize this, but in terms of the overall benefits to Wexford football, the current format is by far and away the best possible

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 459 - 20/08/2022 13:04:03    2438105

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Replying To beano:  "No he wasn't. In fact his brother was better off the bench vs. Ferns than Oisin was over the course of every other game. It still astounds me that he got a run that day vs. Dublin.

I see in the hurling podcast, Bernie was basically knocking the football again. Claiming it will effect Ferns' Leinster campaign, even though there is roughly a months gap between the end of one (should they get that far) and the start of the other. We also had Egan on it positive about football, yet he is calling in lads to do S and C already when they should be focusing on their clubs."
Ah no Beano 3 1 or 2 hour sessions in the gym isn't going to impact a player unless they are doing a heavy gym session the day before, or the morning of, the game .

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6074 - 20/08/2022 13:07:58    2438106

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ah no Beano 3 1 or 2 hour sessions in the gym isn't going to impact a player unless they are doing a heavy gym session the day before, or the morning of, the game ."
Or of a Sunday morning, when every club trains.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1261 - 21/08/2022 10:31:10    2438158

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