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Replying To beano: "Specifically this week's episode about the hurling strategic plan? I am half way through it and it is very encouraging for the most part, although a tad optimistic to target winning an AI in 2027 when we are at least five years behind most of the Munster counties in strength and conditioning alone.
The one thing I will say, and I don't want to denigrate the man, but I think it's about time we moved away from having Liam Griffin on any hurling advisory group. The game has evolved so much in ten years never mind since his time and the "catch, touch and bang" mindset. Heck, even the greatest manager of all-time, Cody, was seen as out of touch with the modern game in recent times. I do think he would be too old-school in his ways, and we need more progressive and younger figureheads leading the group. I would fear for the development of football in the county if Griffin had his way. Would a 13 year old chap even know who Griffin is?
One more thing, and I have always said it, we can have all the ambitious plans in the world, but it won't matter a jot if the coaching structures aren't in place. Prime example for me would be Gearoid Hegarty- I would bet anything that if he was born in Wexford he'd have been seen as too gangly to develop the skill-set he has and would have been full-forward or nowhere. Again, it's imperative we develop young, progressive and articulate coaches or the plan won't be worth the paper it's written on. Work on the less skillful lads as much if not more as the talented chaps." Catch touch and bang all depends on who's up there....Chin v Clare
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Replying To beano: "Specifically this week's episode about the hurling strategic plan? I am half way through it and it is very encouraging for the most part, although a tad optimistic to target winning an AI in 2027 when we are at least five years behind most of the Munster counties in strength and conditioning alone.
The one thing I will say, and I don't want to denigrate the man, but I think it's about time we moved away from having Liam Griffin on any hurling advisory group. The game has evolved so much in ten years never mind since his time and the "catch, touch and bang" mindset. Heck, even the greatest manager of all-time, Cody, was seen as out of touch with the modern game in recent times. I do think he would be too old-school in his ways, and we need more progressive and younger figureheads leading the group. I would fear for the development of football in the county if Griffin had his way. Would a 13 year old chap even know who Griffin is?
One more thing, and I have always said it, we can have all the ambitious plans in the world, but it won't matter a jot if the coaching structures aren't in place. Prime example for me would be Gearoid Hegarty- I would bet anything that if he was born in Wexford he'd have been seen as too gangly to develop the skill-set he has and would have been full-forward or nowhere. Again, it's imperative we develop young, progressive and articulate coaches or the plan won't be worth the paper it's written on. Work on the less skillful lads as much if not more as the talented chaps." Been saying that for a while too Beano. Try and develop some of the bigger lads hurling.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 28/07/2022 13:33:19
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Replying To beano: "Specifically this week's episode about the hurling strategic plan? I am half way through it and it is very encouraging for the most part, although a tad optimistic to target winning an AI in 2027 when we are at least five years behind most of the Munster counties in strength and conditioning alone.
The one thing I will say, and I don't want to denigrate the man, but I think it's about time we moved away from having Liam Griffin on any hurling advisory group. The game has evolved so much in ten years never mind since his time and the "catch, touch and bang" mindset. Heck, even the greatest manager of all-time, Cody, was seen as out of touch with the modern game in recent times. I do think he would be too old-school in his ways, and we need more progressive and younger figureheads leading the group. I would fear for the development of football in the county if Griffin had his way. Would a 13 year old chap even know who Griffin is?
One more thing, and I have always said it, we can have all the ambitious plans in the world, but it won't matter a jot if the coaching structures aren't in place. Prime example for me would be Gearoid Hegarty- I would bet anything that if he was born in Wexford he'd have been seen as too gangly to develop the skill-set he has and would have been full-forward or nowhere. Again, it's imperative we develop young, progressive and articulate coaches or the plan won't be worth the paper it's written on. Work on the less skillful lads as much if not more as the talented chaps." Hit the nail on the head there beano. Today it's all about new thinking. The past is history and we as a county should not be looking to Liam Griffin for guidance. He was a great manager and without him it would probably be 54 years since our last all Ireland. I listened to the podcast just now and I was impressed with Micheal Martin. Coaching for underage and strength and conditioning are been dealt with and can only be good for the future of Wexford hurling. We seem to have the right people in place to bring us to the next level. Surely though Griffin is the yesterday man and should not be in a position of influencing future policy about Wexford hurling.
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Replying To Pikeman96: "I've read your post again all right, and particularly this line you wrote: I often feel like a lot of the talk about local club rivalries are from the past
I was just making the point that local club rivalries definitely still exist. But you're right that there's probably not as many heavy shots in these matches as there used to be back in the day....and at least we agree too that Cloughbawn v Rathnure will be hell for leather stuff!" Fair points. Of course club rivalries exist. But they lack the venom and hate they once had.
And playing club hurling in Dublin in the 80s and 90s there was no shortage of venom!
It would be fair and just if Cloughban won it having won 2 matches. But from my less years in Wexford than most, Rathnure are tough cookies and will always find something somewhere from what I have seen.
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What is "catch touch and bang" lads?
I have said for years that Wexford need to move on from 1996. I am envious that it happened to Wexford, and hoped Dublin in 2013 might do it, I haven't seen it. OK I have with the football but as a hurling fan, I have not. And I am more hurling fan. But to me, Sunday's parading of the team (while shambolic) should put an end to it.
While Liam Griffin is undoubtedly a top business man, and many of the same structures of organisation apply, I would feel that it might be time for newer voices. Like, Paul Kinnerk made his name as a football coach. Not saying Wexford should emulate that because you need to be the person with the ideas to defeat the best. But lets face it, Liam Griffin won an All-Ireland when some of these lads parents hadn't met. Imagine if Limerick were still using Eamon Cregan in such a role. No disrespect to either.
Wexford have plenty of good hurlers, at all levels, with my outsider hat on. Where Wexford lack for me is the S&C of the top counties, and in the top 6 inches. The u20s this year are case and point, the likes of Joe Barrett is a top hurler but he's as thin as a rake. Charlie McGuickin the same. Just picking these 2 out as they are the ones I point to. That u20 is a top team for me. They were desperately unlucky v Kilkenny and KK won the All-Ireland. I can see 5-6 Wexford seniors at least from that team.
There are some seriously good hurlers coming on that minor team as well. They just need the right direction now for me.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1122 - 28/07/2022 14:39:40
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Replying To ExiledInWex: "What is "catch touch and bang" lads?
I have said for years that Wexford need to move on from 1996. I am envious that it happened to Wexford, and hoped Dublin in 2013 might do it, I haven't seen it. OK I have with the football but as a hurling fan, I have not. And I am more hurling fan. But to me, Sunday's parading of the team (while shambolic) should put an end to it.
While Liam Griffin is undoubtedly a top business man, and many of the same structures of organisation apply, I would feel that it might be time for newer voices. Like, Paul Kinnerk made his name as a football coach. Not saying Wexford should emulate that because you need to be the person with the ideas to defeat the best. But lets face it, Liam Griffin won an All-Ireland when some of these lads parents hadn't met. Imagine if Limerick were still using Eamon Cregan in such a role. No disrespect to either.
Wexford have plenty of good hurlers, at all levels, with my outsider hat on. Where Wexford lack for me is the S&C of the top counties, and in the top 6 inches. The u20s this year are case and point, the likes of Joe Barrett is a top hurler but he's as thin as a rake. Charlie McGuickin the same. Just picking these 2 out as they are the ones I point to. That u20 is a top team for me. They were desperately unlucky v Kilkenny and KK won the All-Ireland. I can see 5-6 Wexford seniors at least from that team.
There are some seriously good hurlers coming on that minor team as well. They just need the right direction now for me." For me I think our issue is from 17 year old onwards .. We seem to have very good structure in place with development squads etc etc but are getting slightly left behind after that .. This years U20 team is a prime example .. If anything they have gone backwards from the Leinster winning Minor team - You can say it was unlucky but there didn't seem to be any improvement. I had a conversation recently with a teacher in Good Counsel who said Wexford lads are way ahead of Kilkenny lads with regards to S&C up until 5th year .. but in 6th year the Kilkenny lads seem to move ahead of Wexford lads and that goes into adult hurling then.. Something is obviously happening in the Clubs / County at that age in Kilkenny
MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 136 - 28/07/2022 15:21:46
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Replying To beano: "Specifically this week's episode about the hurling strategic plan? I am half way through it and it is very encouraging for the most part, although a tad optimistic to target winning an AI in 2027 when we are at least five years behind most of the Munster counties in strength and conditioning alone.
The one thing I will say, and I don't want to denigrate the man, but I think it's about time we moved away from having Liam Griffin on any hurling advisory group. The game has evolved so much in ten years never mind since his time and the "catch, touch and bang" mindset. Heck, even the greatest manager of all-time, Cody, was seen as out of touch with the modern game in recent times. I do think he would be too old-school in his ways, and we need more progressive and younger figureheads leading the group. I would fear for the development of football in the county if Griffin had his way. Would a 13 year old chap even know who Griffin is?
One more thing, and I have always said it, we can have all the ambitious plans in the world, but it won't matter a jot if the coaching structures aren't in place. Prime example for me would be Gearoid Hegarty- I would bet anything that if he was born in Wexford he'd have been seen as too gangly to develop the skill-set he has and would have been full-forward or nowhere. Again, it's imperative we develop young, progressive and articulate coaches or the plan won't be worth the paper it's written on. Work on the less skillful lads as much if not more as the talented chaps." I listened to it and i thought the Chairman came across well and spoke a lot of sense (more than the 2 hosting it, "huh never mind that football carry on Michael ha ha ha", ye joke wore thin the 1st time ye said it lads) and ye could sense Michael was getting a little annoyed at some of the stuff they were talking about.
It was encouraging to hear the caliber of people they have spoken to in pulling this together and those that have opened their eyes a bit as he admitted, Joe Schmidt, Jim Gavin and of course Billy Walsh.
In that respect i would agree whats the point in talking to all these people and then reverting back to Liam Griffin as part of the advisory group.
But overall i think the plan is very encouraging and what i liked was an acknowledgement of where we are behind rather than in the past theres been a reluctance to do that, heres where we are behind and heres what we are going to do about it. The fact that theres concrete plans there for lads from 17 up who arent on the county panels to keep developing etc is very good.
Encouraging also to hear his repeat his view on the club championship structure once again and acknowledging the issues there for both codes.
Overall its very encouraging
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Replying To beano: "Specifically this week's episode about the hurling strategic plan? I am half way through it and it is very encouraging for the most part, although a tad optimistic to target winning an AI in 2027 when we are at least five years behind most of the Munster counties in strength and conditioning alone.
The one thing I will say, and I don't want to denigrate the man, but I think it's about time we moved away from having Liam Griffin on any hurling advisory group. The game has evolved so much in ten years never mind since his time and the "catch, touch and bang" mindset. Heck, even the greatest manager of all-time, Cody, was seen as out of touch with the modern game in recent times. I do think he would be too old-school in his ways, and we need more progressive and younger figureheads leading the group. I would fear for the development of football in the county if Griffin had his way. Would a 13 year old chap even know who Griffin is?
One more thing, and I have always said it, we can have all the ambitious plans in the world, but it won't matter a jot if the coaching structures aren't in place. Prime example for me would be Gearoid Hegarty- I would bet anything that if he was born in Wexford he'd have been seen as too gangly to develop the skill-set he has and would have been full-forward or nowhere. Again, it's imperative we develop young, progressive and articulate coaches or the plan won't be worth the paper it's written on. Work on the less skillful lads as much if not more as the talented chaps." Very ageist of you Beano in assuming that Griffin cannot make a contribution to the review and the reality is you have no idea what he is saying in it, he could be the most forward looking contributor in the group. Colm O'Rourke has been appointed as the Meath manager - the football he played is very different to what is happening now.
"Work on the less skillful lads as much if not more as the talented chaps" so you would advocate getting rid of development squads at U13/14/15/16 - the problem is that everyone wants to be seen to be a success so if you have these squads you have coaches with ambitions but if they focus on a wider group of players that won't happen and it will kill their careers. We have seen on here how lads claim there is favoritism when teams lose, so its not just the coaches that expect good results and would not understand the broader issue that is trying to be addressed. So to do what you are suggesting requires a mindset change, stop worrying about underage success and give as many as possible kids of all shapes and sizes to opportunity to progress. Its a numbers game the more you keep with you the greater chance of success in the future. This has been preached by people involved in coaching for years but nobody has listened, I doubt if they will change now.
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Replying To tearintom: "I listened to it and i thought the Chairman came across well and spoke a lot of sense (more than the 2 hosting it, "huh never mind that football carry on Michael ha ha ha", ye joke wore thin the 1st time ye said it lads) and ye could sense Michael was getting a little annoyed at some of the stuff they were talking about.
It was encouraging to hear the caliber of people they have spoken to in pulling this together and those that have opened their eyes a bit as he admitted, Joe Schmidt, Jim Gavin and of course Billy Walsh.
In that respect i would agree whats the point in talking to all these people and then reverting back to Liam Griffin as part of the advisory group.
But overall i think the plan is very encouraging and what i liked was an acknowledgement of where we are behind rather than in the past theres been a reluctance to do that, heres where we are behind and heres what we are going to do about it. The fact that theres concrete plans there for lads from 17 up who arent on the county panels to keep developing etc is very good.
Encouraging also to hear his repeat his view on the club championship structure once again and acknowledging the issues there for both codes.
Overall its very encouraging" Yeah the clear anti-football of one of the hosts really gets on my nerves, especially when his own hurling 'career' amounts to be a bit of junior B so he can't be snobby towards the sport.
beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1409 - 28/07/2022 17:23:23
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Replying To zinny: "Very ageist of you Beano in assuming that Griffin cannot make a contribution to the review and the reality is you have no idea what he is saying in it, he could be the most forward looking contributor in the group. Colm O'Rourke has been appointed as the Meath manager - the football he played is very different to what is happening now.
"Work on the less skillful lads as much if not more as the talented chaps" so you would advocate getting rid of development squads at U13/14/15/16 - the problem is that everyone wants to be seen to be a success so if you have these squads you have coaches with ambitions but if they focus on a wider group of players that won't happen and it will kill their careers. We have seen on here how lads claim there is favoritism when teams lose, so its not just the coaches that expect good results and would not understand the broader issue that is trying to be addressed. So to do what you are suggesting requires a mindset change, stop worrying about underage success and give as many as possible kids of all shapes and sizes to opportunity to progress. Its a numbers game the more you keep with you the greater chance of success in the future. This has been preached by people involved in coaching for years but nobody has listened, I doubt if they will change now." Fair point on both aspects there. Maybe we are being a bit harsh there in regards to Liam Griffin.
On your second point one thing to note is that wexford now under this programme solely looking at u17 being a developmental age bracket where the development of the players is prioritised over success.
Its good imho but will be a bit of a sea change for the county where the lack of senior success being talked about generally is followed by "and we havent won minor in x amount of years "
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1328 - 28/07/2022 17:23:36
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Replying To tearintom: "Fair point on both aspects there. Maybe we are being a bit harsh there in regards to Liam Griffin.
On your second point one thing to note is that wexford now under this programme solely looking at u17 being a developmental age bracket where the development of the players is prioritised over success.
Its good imho but will be a bit of a sea change for the county where the lack of senior success being talked about generally is followed by "and we havent won minor in x amount of years "" I agree with alot of what was said. Especially about size and S and C. I do feel though that part of our problem is a mental one. Watching minor, u20/1, and Senior teams for alot of years now and seeing our lads losing the close games by a point or 2. Poor shooting or choice of shots, retreating too far when only a point or 2 in front etc etc. While it's all very well saying development squads are all about development, losing, like winning, can become a habit.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 28/07/2022 18:30:11
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What is the podcast, I may give it a whirl.
zinny, no matter when a team loses there are "15 better hurlers in the county". What happened that poster who swore there were 15 better hurlers than all the minors, but when challenged could not name 1?
There is always better hurlers, in every county. What they might be lacking is commitment, discipline and attitude. I see it in our own club, and I bet you see it in yours too.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1122 - 28/07/2022 21:49:37
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Replying To tearintom: "I listened to it and i thought the Chairman came across well and spoke a lot of sense (more than the 2 hosting it, "huh never mind that football carry on Michael ha ha ha", ye joke wore thin the 1st time ye said it lads) and ye could sense Michael was getting a little annoyed at some of the stuff they were talking about.
It was encouraging to hear the caliber of people they have spoken to in pulling this together and those that have opened their eyes a bit as he admitted, Joe Schmidt, Jim Gavin and of course Billy Walsh.
In that respect i would agree whats the point in talking to all these people and then reverting back to Liam Griffin as part of the advisory group.
But overall i think the plan is very encouraging and what i liked was an acknowledgement of where we are behind rather than in the past theres been a reluctance to do that, heres where we are behind and heres what we are going to do about it. The fact that theres concrete plans there for lads from 17 up who arent on the county panels to keep developing etc is very good.
Encouraging also to hear his repeat his view on the club championship structure once again and acknowledging the issues there for both codes.
Overall its very encouraging" I listened to the podcast while travelling last night and I think it sound very exciting. We have a definite plan to achieve success and the chairman seemed very knowledgeable about what is required, in that they have spoken to people who know what it takes. . I also think that it is good to have people like Liam Griffin on an oversight committee. The man loves Wexford hurling and has a good business brain. He will be part of a group who are tasked with ensuring each step is delivered.
Success won`t come overnight but it won`t come at all without a plan to achieve it.
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I do believe part of the solution has to be the co operation between the codes especially with development squads . The bigger lads that you refer to tall gangly etc are most likely not fully co ordinated . If you look at Limerick in general are they more skillful in general No but the extra physicallliry has given them that edge over other teams .
Just because a big awkward lad is not fully ar ease with his size at 14 15 16 he cannot be dismissed he may be more suited to football at this age but as time goes by he may if helped along develop his hurling too but his s&c and general fitness and knowlegde of whats required for higher level will be in good place due to his participation in football squads or other academies so transition will be easier for all concerned.
And not discouraged by the hurling royalty that he s wasting his time with the big ball . And made to feel inferior in some way if he s good enough t any given time accommodate these boys as dual players until the choice is totally inevitable as will be the case at inter County adult level. Most other counties do have larger number of dual players .
Hiw many of current senior hurlers played county football first 6 or 7 ?
Our best underage players are multi talented and most do not concentrate on one sport until 16 or 17 years old . They play
hurling ,football ,soccer( Kennedy Cup ) LOI, Rugby club or academy Boxing in different combinations never discount any if them for broadening their ports participation
Its what gives them a broad set of skills. Please don't change this as if you pick one at young age you will be most certainly be at a disadvantage and if it does nt succeed what have they to fall back on only disappointment 35 inter County hurling squad spread over a 10 to 12 year span so on average 3 to 4 of each year make it
And before anyone says anything I love both codes with a leaning towards hurling first with general interest in the others played most not overly successful in any hurling being my first love and mot suceesful. So I m well aware of what I m talking about from being involved in sport . And coaching of both codes .
I d ask the hurling royalty to not be afraid of other sports and be derogatory towards them and embrace and encourage all codes and keep an open mind on all sports and what extra skills they pick up along the way . Our most influential current hurler Lee Chin played several above sports before setting his heart on hurling working hard them most to fey to the next level . Would he be the player he is without this experience after only concentrating on hurling he may have been a better stick man but not a better player . That's just my opinion .
But imagine if he was discouraged and did nt follow his early dream of soccer and discarded by the hurling royalty an immense talent lost to fear of other sports .
We all know chaps that concentrated on hurling only and can do anything with a hurl and sliothar except the one thing that maters in the modern game which is win it in the air in a ruck or 50 /50 . If you vantage do these thing you will struggle to survive at any level of hurling .
Skill strenght hunger and attitude team ethic and selflessness in different combinations are what are required . Let's hope the co board get it right or fail trying every way it can .
Coach the clubs and schools enjoy it as if they don't they wint come back . Dont pressure young players to be the next big thing and the future lies with them and them only .
Let them develop their love of hurling the rest will fall into place with the help of every club and development coach . With focus on players and not on coaches who want to make their fortune/legacy on the success of their players and teams .
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Predictions time:
Senior:
Naomh Eanna vs. Shelmaliers: hard to know where either team are to be honest. Gorey exploded out of the traps with two wins on the bounce, but have maybe played one half of hurling since when coming from behind to beat Harriers. Poor vs. Crossabeg and, aside from Mac, well off the pace against Anne's too. They do seem too reliant on Mac more than ever, although Dunbar has been a big loss to be fair. Question-marks surround their full-back line. Shels look a bit stronger since Banville has returned, but their group form was patchy too. Not alone is it a repeat of 2020's final, but Gorey were aggrieved at some of Shels antics in last year's clash. Shels have won the last two significant meetings, and I have tempered my opinion on Gorey recently- Shels to sneak it.
St.Anne's vs St.Martin's: district derby and another county final re-pairing (2019). St.Anne's looked excellent last week, but like most other teams still left, have lurched between the good and the bad. St.Martin's are no different, although the draw last week with Ferns was good considering they shipped three goals. Mogie has been one of the in-form forwards of the entire championship (even if he was quiet last week)- I am not sure St.Martin's have anyone of the same calibre with ROC still injured. Plenty of young talent on show between Luke Kavanagh, Joe Barrett, Eoin Ryan, Moran and Shockman, but I think St.Anne's have the greater steel across the board and will win, albeit narrowly.
Rapparees vs. Faythe Harriers: I have seen Rapps twice now and wasn't overly impressed both times. Harriers have hit form at the right time, and will fancy causing a stir. I wouldn't put it past them either- a forward unit of the warrior Chin sprinkled with young talent like Lawlor, Luke Murphy, Murphy-Butler and Purcell would thrive in Wexford Park, especially with a large following sure to be there. I don't know the story with Tucker Foley, but if he is absent again, it'll be a big blow as he is the glue for the sweeper system to work (playing Peare there last time took Peare's consistency out of the half-back line). I am not convinced Rapps have the scoring power collectively up front either, so going to go for Harriers to dethrone the champs.
Ferns vs. Glynn-Barntown: Ferns have been expert goal-getters so far, probably the best of the quarter-finals in that regard. However, Diarmuid Doyle sustained a serious injury last time, so he'll be a loss. One defeat in a quality group has them purring nicely, while I have been consistent in my doubts about Glynn having enough firepower to truly contend. Rowan White has been excellent to be fair, but the bulk of their scoring prowess comes from out the field. It'll be a long wait over the bank holiday weekend for both sides to do battle, and the winners will obviously have a day's less recovery time for their semi-final too. I hope there isn't any lingering animosity after last year's unruly scenes, but Furlong is one of the top refs going so think he will have a handle of things anyway. All form lines point to a Ferns win, and I predict them to get the job done.
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Intermediate:
Bunclody vs. Buffers Alley: HWH have been as arguably as impressive as any of the sides left in the draw considering the competitiveness of their group and the casualties they had to contend with. Buffers Alley will be the first to tell you that they have under-performed, but they are in the last-eight on merit and will be confident of their season starting now. A fully in-form Alley would be hard to write off, but I think Bunclody will just shade this one.
Fethard vs. Taghmon: Fethard have been largely disappointing, and yet to really reach the heights that would have them in the top two in the market. Taghmon may have lost the last day, and got hammered by Oulart, but they were comfortable qualifiers to the knock-outs nonetheless. They should be stronger this weekend, and I tip them to give Fethard an almighty rattle. Draw
Oulart vs. Gusserane: injuries have really hampered Gusserane, and will have an even bigger knock-on effect for the football. Oulart have a 100% record but haven't been as serene the last two games. Can't go for anything other than a comfortable Oulart win.
Askamore vs. Blackwater: Blackwater were dark-horses to even get out of the group, so are in bonus territory now. But it would be churlish to discount them as they have some fine hurlers and were competitive in all their games that counted. However, Askamore ultimately topped a group that was stronger on paper, and with Tucker and Tomkins in excellent form, I think the Gorey district side will get through to the last-four.
Inter A:
Mellows-Monageer: top versus fourth on paper, but Monageer are probably better than their final standing suggests. Mellows were excellent on occasion in the easier group, and with everyone fit and firing they should just get the job done. Senior football fitness could be decisive by the end.
Duffry- Oulart: Duffry won the tallest dwarf contest by virtue of being slightly better than St.Martin's, and their stock has fallen in recent years. Oulart have been efficient, and not losing any players to their first team has helped them keep cohesive. Oulart to win comfortably.
Cushinstown- GOH: Ross derby, with Cushinstown looking to bounce back up against a side knocking on the promotion door a while now. I was impressed by Cushinstown in defeat vs Mellows, and I think they have a stronger overall team so think they will win.
Shelmaliers vs. Horeswood: a bit like Oulart, Shels have managed to keep their team together without losing anyone to the firsts. Horeswood have stuttered a small bit after making a positive start to the campaign, but have enough talent to make a splash in the business end of the championship. Tough one to call- will tip Horeswood to just sneak it.
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Anybody at any of the Intermediate quarter-finals last night?
Massive win for Oulart-The Ballagh. Maybe something of a surprise win for Taghmon-Camross, and Buffers Alley got the better of Bunclody. Just wondering if any particular talking points or anything else of note?
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2229 - 30/07/2022 14:40:40
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Anybody at any of the Intermediate quarter-finals last night?
Massive win for Oulart-The Ballagh. Maybe something of a surprise win for Taghmon-Camross, and Buffers Alley got the better of Bunclody. Just wondering if any particular talking points or anything else of note?" Was at the game in Ross. Taghmon were 9 points up at half time. Fethard got going in the second half and outscored Taghmon 11 points to 1. Taghmon got a fortunate goal and woke up. It was even enough after that and Taghmon closed out the game. Great atmosphere and a good close finish. Fethard hit 17 wides to Taghmons 9. Mikie Dwyer only came on for the 2nd half but made a difference. Tbh I was disappointed in Fethard they looked better against an admittedly injury ravaged Gusserane. But then Taghmon played with good intensity in the opening 2 quarters and final quarter. The semi final against Askamore should be a good game, as should the other semifinal between Oulart and the Alley.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 30/07/2022 17:42:50
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Anybody at any of the Intermediate quarter-finals last night?
Massive win for Oulart-The Ballagh. Maybe something of a surprise win for Taghmon-Camross, and Buffers Alley got the better of Bunclody. Just wondering if any particular talking points or anything else of note?" Referee was fairly whistle happy. Fethard, maybe on account of playing at Senior last year, were full of little chops and "cute" illegality like pushes in that back that the ref blew for most of the time. In the 2nd half they cut out alot of this and played alot better, getting on top around the middle 3rd for the 3rd quarter. Their forwards also won some turnovers when Taghmon took too much time on the ball on short puckouts.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 30/07/2022 17:57:03
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Took in the Rapps Faythe game tonight. I was seriously impressed by some of the young Harrier players in particular I was impressed by Clancy but I thought Luke Murphy was excellent. Definitely intercounty prospects. With a bit more composure I thought Harriers could have won that game.
WEXILE_AGAIN (Wexford) - Posts: 14 - 31/07/2022 20:27:01
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