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Collins has worked the magic alright, the thing I heard is that people saying in the media was that this Clare team is older or around a good while. But just looking at it there now, there was only 6 Clare players that started Saturday that played the last time Clare got to an All Ireland quarter final. There have been retirements of some great Clare players and servants down through that time, everyone will mention the likes of Gordon Kelly or Gary Brennan, but the likes of Martin McMahon and Joe Hayes, Kevin Hartnett, Dean Ryan, Shane McGrath, Pat Burke were also outstanding footballers who have retired since 2016. Along with injuries to the likes of Seán Collins, Cillian Brennan, Stephen Ryan and Darragh Bohannon who probably would all be starting. Seán Yank O'Donoghue moving back to the States, Aaron Fitzgerald joining the hurlers. It shows that there is quality footballers in the county of Clare and Collins has rebuild the team and brought new players in year on year. The likes of Manus Doherty, Cillian Rouine, Aaron Griffin, Emmet McMahon are all really only in there first year as Senior starters. Then you had the likes of Ciaran Downes and Daniel Walsh who didn't even come off the bench against Roscommon who both started for UL in the Sigerson Cup final earlier this year, shows that we have a lot more strength in depth then what most people think. CartaDubh (Clare) - Posts: 58 - 13/06/2022 11:05:16 2424514 Link 0 |
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Which posts indicate that please? Point them out to me. Thanks.
howdareu (USA) - Posts: 220 - 13/06/2022 11:10:22 2424519 Link 0 |
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Really. Apart from Galway, can any Connacht be classified a strong football county. Since 1966 all of two Sam McGuire Cup victories have been recorded by a Connacht team; no less than 23 All Ireland titles have come Munster way in that time. It is almost seventy years since any other county from the province won an All Ireland. As regards Meath, lowly Limerick have met them three times in the Championship, beaten them twice, putting five goals past them the last time and were very unlucky to lose to them by a point in Portlaoise about ten years ago. So I am not awful sure that either Meath or Ros, are 'well renowned football counties' at least for the last fifteen years or so. I think it is also significant that every one of the four beaten finalists lost yesterday, but that both Limerick and Kildare performed much better that they did in their provincial finals. I was happy enough with LK performance, as Cork are always to beat on their own ground and the vast majority of neutral commentators were in one word, that Gordon Browne should not have black carded, although I do think Cork would have edged it anyway. Having said all that, congrats to Clare on a fine victory on Saturday and best wishes against Galway. It would be great to see them in a semi final like '92. As Spillane said it was 'great to see three teams from the much maligned Munster Championship in the Quarter Finals' Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 13/06/2022 11:22:39 2424531 Link 0 |
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Yes, Mayo can definitely be classified as a strong football county. Especially in recent times. To say otherwise would be ridiculous. Are you suggesting that Mayo aren't a strong football county? The whole country is aware that they haven't won an All-Ireland since '51, but they've been in a heap of finals in the past decade and have gone very close. They're consistently a top-3 team over the past decade. The definition of a strong football county. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2321 - 13/06/2022 11:45:57 2424553 Link 1 |
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Here's one "That is a deplorable performance from roscommon. They have lost to probably the fourth best team in munster. Shocking fare and questions need to be asked from co board as to why Anthony cunningham was left in charge. Its extremely disappointing" And another here "said probably fourth best team! Nothing funny about it. Why would you think it was funny?? Limerick, cork and tipp could and have beaten clare on a given day. I still stand over my comments that serious questions need to be asked of roscommon county board who left this manager in charge." oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1625 - 13/06/2022 13:05:43 2424618 Link 1 |
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He's from Leitrim and wum that's best ignored.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4043 - 13/06/2022 13:11:23 2424623 Link 2 |
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If I am from Leitrim so what?? You have under your many different guises visited other pages to impart your "wisdom"......is there a ban on it in Roscommon or what?? I have asked you to point out these WUM messages you refer to and you cannot- as I have said on another thread here you are trying to bully people who don't subscribe to your one dimensional way of thinking. Please stop this. thank you Mr Analyser. howdareu (USA) - Posts: 220 - 13/06/2022 13:32:18 2424635 Link 0 |
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Where have I mentioned in that that I have a master plan or that I have all the answers?? I spoke the truth- Anthony Cunningham should not have been left in charge and ultimately that is the county board's fault!! What is wrong with saying that?? Touched a nerve. Makes one wonder why???????
howdareu (USA) - Posts: 220 - 13/06/2022 13:34:42 2424636 Link 0 |
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The team was up 5 points and 4 minutes to go and it was all Cunningham's fault! Really?
baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 13/06/2022 13:48:20 2424646 Link 1 |
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Agree totally that Anthony Cunningham should not have been left in charge and the County Board is to blame for that. His term was extended shortly after Roscommon lost to Mayo in the Hyde in November 2020 in what was as tame and as lame a defence of our Connacht title as ever seen. This morning's draw shows the missed opportunity. Beat Derry and Galway/Armagh ( both doable) and we'd have been in our first All Ireland senior Final since 1980. Last Saturday will go down in the annals as one of the worst defeats in the history of Roscommon gaa. While personal abuse of players and management is unacceptable ( appears to have been some of that on social media ),questions have to be asked if Roscommon is a serious football county with serious ambition to be successful.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2406 - 13/06/2022 13:52:58 2424650 Link 0 |
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Did I say it was all Cunningham's fault?? There are not many Roscommon people who are happy with Anthony- read through the posts here. They want what is best for their county as we all do. I still stand over the fact that he should have left/been removed last year. Was it his fault directly taht they conceded that much in 4 minutes? No and I never said that. I am, unlike you or other posts looking at one game in isolation- there has been a downward thread in Ros football in past 18 months where I think they are capable of more. It may suit you to have them going down as they always give ye a good battle but I think a new manager would have them fresher this year woth new ideas and certainly better set up defensively. Clare scored 2-15!!! Imagine what Kerry or Dublin would have done. You really telling me that is acceptable to Roscommon supporters???????
howdareu (USA) - Posts: 220 - 13/06/2022 14:02:12 2424658 Link 0 |
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But why was it? Do you have anything to back up your claim? You of course won't and will just ignore that. Going by your replys elsewhere it's you who's had a nerve touched. oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1625 - 13/06/2022 14:27:07 2424679 Link 0 |
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County boards appoint managers. Thats why. Thought you would know that much. You seem very defensive about county board????? Interesting.
howdareu (USA) - Posts: 220 - 13/06/2022 15:21:38 2424713 Link 0 |
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Where did I say anything about a county board? You're just making stuff up now.
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1625 - 13/06/2022 15:40:52 2424723 Link 1 |
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I think your ambitions are a bit too lofty. Since Armagh appointed McGeeney in 2015 Roscommon have gone through how many managers now? Off the top my head Evans, O'Donnell/McStay, McStay on his own and Cunningham and the same problem is there not good enough defensively to progress further and leaves yourself open to defeats like last Saturday. It's a coach that can improve you defensively is what is required, McGeeney, Gallagher and Joyce have good coaches in their management teams and 1 of them will now reach the AI final. On annals as one of the worst defeats in the history of Roscommon gaa wouldn't Clare 2016 and Fermanagh 2015 exits would be worse as both was playing Div 3 football those years. Clare 2022 are established Div 2 who has played against Roscommon plenty including a draw in the league this year. Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 13/06/2022 16:08:31 2424732 Link 0 |
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It was disappointing to see an experienced team losing a 5 point lead mainly self inflicted. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2296 - 13/06/2022 16:14:42 2424736 Link 0 |
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You asked why as in why are county board to blame? Think its you thats making up stuff bit like the county board who are obviously inept
howdareu (USA) - Posts: 220 - 13/06/2022 16:16:00 2424737 Link 0 |
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Did Poacher leave or was he asked to go?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7978 - 13/06/2022 16:23:25 2424742 Link 1 |
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He left due to long commute. We only had him for a few months not long enough for the long standing issues we had and he missed the preparation for the Galway championship game due to getting covid. Local journalists was crying out for a more attacking game plan this they got that but scoring 2-16 and 1-17 as we did in the last two games is no use when we are shipping more scores than before. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4043 - 13/06/2022 16:35:37 2424749 Link 1 |
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But you said they were at fault for keeping as manager did you not? It's you that clearly has an issue with county boards. Or are you going to try and twist that into something else as well? oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1625 - 13/06/2022 16:41:03 2424754 Link 1 |