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What Would You Serve At The Masters Dinner?

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "That will never happen.

It is understandable though that you mention it. The reason that it can't happen is the word "amateur".

I see that even in the soccer league in Ireland, a club can get good money if a player transfers overseas to a bigger club. It's the same sport to the same sport. That's how soccer runs its business.

If the GAA incentivizes AFL/AFWL transfers, are the Irish not essentially saying, 'good for you. Go to the bigger/better league'? And that's what would happen if clubs/coaches were given financial compensation for producing great potential. Would such a situation not just massively increase the Down Under market?

There has never been a massive exodus of Gaelic male players, even since the late great Jim Stynes joined the AFL, so many moons ago now. So why so much comment about it? Why so much worry?

From a purely American perspective (my perspective, actually), and looking at how you guys treat the ladies' football vis-a-vis the MAN's game, I'd bet that the ladies exodus could be quite heavy compared with the men's exodus.

Did any men's manager ever come out with comments like a certain women's manager came out with over the last few days? I know Mickey Harte dislikes the AFL game, but he always wished the Tyrone LAD going down there the very best, over all the years that transfers happened.

Is it because Murray is dealing with women, that he feels more entitled to more strongly condemn the AFL game move than if he were managing a team of men? Would he have the balls 'not to begrudge' a McEntee or Keoghan (sorry, I don't know that many Meath players (male)) these days, were it one of them and not a lady that he was dealing with!"
Ha ha! Riled you a little, did I? As you say, you're a USA Gaa poster, and huge credit goes to the GAA community for their great efforts there over the decades, though you're perhaps not in the ideal position to attempt to lecture me on the meaning of 'amateur' status! I and a great many of us in the game here know full well the details of how talented, often IC lads end up playing for clubs in NY, Boston and elsewhere. Good luck to the players in question but I'm sure you don't need to be embarrassed with those details with 'sponsor' names, per game amounts being offered etc. How is that fair on the young players being developed Stateside to see men and women parachuted in to take their position on not so amateur terms?!
I don't think GAA's amateur status - which by all means must be preserved - is affected at all by the AFL or AFWL having to make a donation to a player's club and county in lieu of the massive investment in time, know how and other resources into that players development. You think that would suddenly open up the floodgates for more such signings? I don't see the economic / commercial argument for that at all. Right now, AFL and AFWL are benefiting hugely from this very one sided arrangement. Again, good luck to the players that elect to go with it and be rewarded for playing that professional code but why should we coaches continue to see this happen with not so much as a thanks from a Hawthorn, Swans, Essendon or certain well known scouts from Kerry and elsewhere.

togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 697 - 11/04/2022 20:15:06    2410586

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "That will never happen.

It is understandable though that you mention it. The reason that it can't happen is the word "amateur".

I see that even in the soccer league in Ireland, a club can get good money if a player transfers overseas to a bigger club. It's the same sport to the same sport. That's how soccer runs its business.

If the GAA incentivizes AFL/AFWL transfers, are the Irish not essentially saying, 'good for you. Go to the bigger/better league'? And that's what would happen if clubs/coaches were given financial compensation for producing great potential. Would such a situation not just massively increase the Down Under market?

There has never been a massive exodus of Gaelic male players, even since the late great Jim Stynes joined the AFL, so many moons ago now. So why so much comment about it? Why so much worry?

From a purely American perspective (my perspective, actually), and looking at how you guys treat the ladies' football vis-a-vis the MAN's game, I'd bet that the ladies exodus could be quite heavy compared with the men's exodus.

Did any men's manager ever come out with comments like a certain women's manager came out with over the last few days? I know Mickey Harte dislikes the AFL game, but he always wished the Tyrone LAD going down there the very best, over all the years that transfers happened.

Is it because Murray is dealing with women, that he feels more entitled to more strongly condemn the AFL game move than if he were managing a team of men? Would he have the balls 'not to begrudge' a McEntee or Keoghan (sorry, I don't know that many Meath players (male)) these days, were it one of them and not a lady that he was dealing with!"
Stop mansplaining

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1262 - 11/04/2022 21:21:30    2410593

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Replying To yew_tree:  "A thread about the Masters dinner turns into a debate about Mayo's poor record in finals….how predictable"
Mad how that happened again for sure : D

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 5533 - 11/04/2022 21:38:27    2410596

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Replying To yew_tree:  "A thread about the Masters dinner turns into a debate about Mayo's poor record in finals….how predictable"
The master is back??? Noooooo

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8372 - 12/04/2022 18:04:31    2410733

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