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Replying To aidan64: "Would be great if Kerry were to be included in the Munster championship if they were to beat Antrim but they won't come near to beating TIpp. Truth be told Kerry would lose all their games in Munster but I think the experience of playing the top teams would stand to them in the long run. They are still a long way off the other teams in Munster or most of the other Div 1 teams but I'm sure they would like to have a crack at them if only for one year. If they beat Antrim I think they deserve it. To be honest I think Antrim should be given a shot at going into the Liam McCarthy as well. They are probably that little bit ahead of Kerry at the moment." Antrim are strong favourites no doubt about that but you just never know with Kerry, they have some really good forwards. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 926 - 25/05/2022 12:07:33 2420127 Link
Replying To aidan64: "Would be great if Kerry were to be included in the Munster championship if they were to beat Antrim but they won't come near to beating TIpp. Truth be told Kerry would lose all their games in Munster but I think the experience of playing the top teams would stand to them in the long run. They are still a long way off the other teams in Munster or most of the other Div 1 teams but I'm sure they would like to have a crack at them if only for one year. If they beat Antrim I think they deserve it. To be honest I think Antrim should be given a shot at going into the Liam McCarthy as well. They are probably that little bit ahead of Kerry at the moment." Both Kerry and Antrim are in the Liam Mccarthy this year Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15746 - 25/05/2022 12:29:21 2420136 Link
Replying To aidan64: "Would be great if Kerry were to be included in the Munster championship if they were to beat Antrim but they won't come near to beating TIpp. Truth be told Kerry would lose all their games in Munster but I think the experience of playing the top teams would stand to them in the long run. They are still a long way off the other teams in Munster or most of the other Div 1 teams but I'm sure they would like to have a crack at them if only for one year. If they beat Antrim I think they deserve it. To be honest I think Antrim should be given a shot at going into the Liam McCarthy as well. They are probably that little bit ahead of Kerry at the moment." Agreed. A year in Munster with the 5 other counties, if earned through winning the McDonagh, would be a great experience. They deserve that opportunity, no matter how difficult a challenge it is. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 25/05/2022 12:41:29 2420138 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Agreed. A year in Munster with the 5 other counties, if earned through winning the McDonagh, would be a great experience. They deserve that opportunity, no matter how difficult a challenge it is." Would be great for hurling in the county to have Limerick, Cork, Tipp, Clare or Waterford in a packed stadium in Tralee. The incentive for winning the final (for either team) is a hiding against Tipp. aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 668 - 25/05/2022 14:08:22 2420173 Link
Replying To aidan64: "Would be great for hurling in the county to have Limerick, Cork, Tipp, Clare or Waterford in a packed stadium in Tralee. The incentive for winning the final (for either team) is a hiding against Tipp." i remember in 2003 in the qualifiers kerry played a highly rated limerick team in Tralee and gave them a good battle and as far as i remember there was upto 9000 at that game, so kerry can get good crowds preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 803 - 25/05/2022 21:25:08 2420265 Link
Replying To preddan: "i remember in 2003 in the qualifiers kerry played a highly rated limerick team in Tralee and gave them a good battle and as far as i remember there was upto 9000 at that game, so kerry can get good crowds" Kerry went on a good run that year. They lost to Waterford in the Munster quarter-final, which was to be expected. Kerry then beat Westmeath, Carlow and Derry in a scenic route preliminary qualifier structure. After the momentum of those games, they gave Limerick a good game in Tralee. Laois had a good crowd when they beat Dublin in 2019. Counties outside the Top 9 however aren't retaining the crowds consistently. Just the reality and it does seem to influence the GAA decisions. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 26/05/2022 11:09:03 2420299 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Kerry went on a good run that year. They lost to Waterford in the Munster quarter-final, which was to be expected. Kerry then beat Westmeath, Carlow and Derry in a scenic route preliminary qualifier structure. After the momentum of those games, they gave Limerick a good game in Tralee. Laois had a good crowd when they beat Dublin in 2019. Counties outside the Top 9 however aren't retaining the crowds consistently. Just the reality and it does seem to influence the GAA decisions." Good luck in the Joe Mc Donagh Final. We have to wait until 2023, to reach the final, but I personally think Offaly are just not ready yet for Liam McCarthy. We do have a good minor team, which is great, but we need to perform better than last Saturday. I hope Michael Fennelly stays on for next year, and continue to develop Offaly hurling. Kerry if they win the final should compete in Munster, making it a 6 team championship. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 26/05/2022 11:30:50 2420305 Link
On current form, I would rate the next 9 outside the Top 9 as follows: 1. Westmeath, Laois and Antrim. 2. Kerry, Offaly and Carlow. 3. Down, Kildare and Meath. There is a gap between 9 and 10. There is also a gap from 18 to 19. Currently, 2 of the "next 9" get to compete in the provincial championships. 1 of the"next 9" will be competing in the Ring. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 26/05/2022 14:07:07 2420349 Link
Replying To Passer_By: "If Kerry win but fail to win the subsequent playoff, then our friends Laois receive a reprieve and remain in next years Leinster Championship. Kerry can only enter Munster and bizarrely have to play a further playoff should they win the Joe McDonagh out; so we actually have different rules for different teams, in the same competition. Only in the GAA. Mind you, Kerry for the reasonable amount of clubs that they have down there (far greater in number than say Carlow); aren't shy about availing of the parentage rule. Theres a fair splattering of Limerick men on the panel, so not entirely organic. Best of luck to them nonetheless. Imagine if they win it and the subsequent playoff too... Laois and potentially Tipp could be in the Joe McDonagh Cup next year" It is absolutely ridiculous! One of the fundamental principles of any sport is that everyone plays by the same rules. Kerry have been singled out for a much more difficult (next to impossible really) qualification route than any other team. They should launch a legal challenge - it would have much more merit than all those challenges years ago from teams trying to get player suspensions overturned, and those ones were successful. Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 1034 - 26/05/2022 18:37:10 2420410 Link
Replying To Gaillimh_Abu: "It is absolutely ridiculous! One of the fundamental principles of any sport is that everyone plays by the same rules. Kerry have been singled out for a much more difficult (next to impossible really) qualification route than any other team. They should launch a legal challenge - it would have much more merit than all those challenges years ago from teams trying to get player suspensions overturned, and those ones were successful." The Kerry County Board have been very quiet about it, despite Kerry having the recent form of being in the previous two McDonagh finals. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 27/05/2022 10:06:11 2420438 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "The Kerry County Board have been very quiet about it, despite Kerry having the recent form of being in the previous two McDonagh finals." Because they couldn't care less. Unless it was 2020 of course when the hurlers were the only ones to give them their free trip to Croke Park oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1625 - 27/05/2022 12:27:08 2420471 Link
Saturday 4 June Joe McDonagh Cup final Antrim v Kerry, Croke Park, 5pm - RTE2 Antrim come into the final with the benefit of Division 1 experience. They competed well in the league against top opponents. Antrim are rightly favourites. Recent finals against Westmeath and Antrim give Kerry a realistic grounding of the challenge that lies in store. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 01/06/2022 08:11:52 2421495 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Saturday 4 June Joe McDonagh Cup final Antrim v Kerry, Croke Park, 5pm - RTE2 Antrim come into the final with the benefit of Division 1 experience. They competed well in the league against top opponents. Antrim are rightly favourites. Recent finals against Westmeath and Antrim give Kerry a realistic grounding of the challenge that lies in store." is it 5pm throw in or 4.30 CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 524 - 01/06/2022 10:45:47 2421520 Link
Saturday 4 June Joe McDonagh Cup final Antrim v Kerry, Croke Park, 4:30pm - RTE2 legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 01/06/2022 12:10:00 2421546 Link
This will be a big test for our lads. They are in the spotlight now, a final at HQ. In the past they have had a tendency to disappear in these important games and get physically and mentally bullied out of it big time. It's live on TV. Kerry will put up strong opposition so it's over to the Antrim players now. Can they cope? Saturday will tell us. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9818 - 01/06/2022 14:01:04 2421578 Link
When the 2 teams in a Final are not competing for the same prize it turns the whole competition into a farce…… Yet another huge own goal by the GAA… will these gombeings ever learn to do things properly…? ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3845 - 01/06/2022 16:42:29 2421634 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "When the 2 teams in a Final are not competing for the same prize it turns the whole competition into a farce…… Yet another huge own goal by the GAA… will these gombeings ever learn to do things properly…?" I find it funny everyone giving out now,this has been the agreement for years now and nothing about it,I'm not saying it's right but it shows the majority of people don't pay attention to what is happening. cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 783 - 01/06/2022 21:03:21 2421696 Link
Replying To legendzxix: "Saturday 4 June Joe McDonagh Cup final Antrim v Kerry, Croke Park, 4:30pm - RTE2" TI is 5pm Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1566 - 01/06/2022 22:05:16 2421708 Link
Replying To Onion Breath: " Replying To legendzxix: "Saturday 4 June Joe McDonagh Cup final Antrim v Kerry, Croke Park, 4:30pm - RTE2" TI is 5pm" https://www.gaa.ie/hurling/joe-mcdonagh-cup/ SAT 4 JUN Joe McDonagh Cup Antrim 16:30 Kerry legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 02/06/2022 09:56:40 2421723 Link
Replying To cityman73: "I find it funny everyone giving out now,this has been the agreement for years now and nothing about it,I'm not saying it's right but it shows the majority of people don't pay attention to what is happening." This is the first final to put the spotlight on the unfairness. During the pandemic finals, Kerry would have been permitted to join Leinster! Allowing the McDonagh winner to determine the province with 6 teams is the fairest for all. It means the top 5 in each province are treated equally. Whoever finishes 6th in the 6 team province is always relegated. The McDonagh winner then is always promoted as the 6th team in their provincial championship. Everyone wins with this equal ruling. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 02/06/2022 09:59:32 2421728 Link