National Forum

Joe Mcdonagh Cup 2022

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Replying To Viking66:  "Not surprised really Carlow have some great players."
Carlow fully deserved their win, much better side. Offaly not good enough for Liam Mac Carthy Cup. Another year in Joe McD awaits.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 21/05/2022 20:35:20    2419274

Link

Replying To Viking66:  "Not surprised really Carlow have some great players."
Yes we do. Just unlucky the way the fixtures fell in the end.

One lesson for football is the success of the McDonagh cup where teams play others of the same standard.

Well done to Down as well on keeping their status. They travelled to Carlow last week and were telling us they have only 3 senior clubs.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1536 - 21/05/2022 20:38:04    2419276

Link

Replying To carlovia:  "Yes we do. Just unlucky the way the fixtures fell in the end.

One lesson for football is the success of the McDonagh cup where teams play others of the same standard.

Well done to Down as well on keeping their status. They travelled to Carlow last week and were telling us they have only 3 senior clubs."
Yes all neighbours on the Ards peninsula though there are green shoots in the South of the county.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15745 - 21/05/2022 21:33:44    2419295

Link

Replying To Viking66:  "More important to beat Antrim 1st. Which will be a tough ask legendzxix."
It will be a tough ask for sure. Wexford play the McDonagh runners-up.
Kerry were competitive against Westmeath in the league. That gives some confidence.
Antrim however were competitive in Division 1. Antrim had already qualified for the McDonagh final with a game to spare. Antrim are rightly the raging hot favourites for McDonagh Cup glory.

2018 Carlow
2019 Laois
2020 Antrim
2021 Westmeath

There will either be a new winner of the McDonagh or Antrim be the most successful county at that level.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 21/05/2022 21:49:31    2419300

Link

Replying To carlovia:  "Yes we do. Just unlucky the way the fixtures fell in the end.

One lesson for football is the success of the McDonagh cup where teams play others of the same standard.

Well done to Down as well on keeping their status. They travelled to Carlow last week and were telling us they have only 3 senior clubs."
Westmeath retaining Leinster status is good news for Division 2A. Kerry and Carlow finishing above Offaly is also good news for Division 2A. 1B provided Galway and Limerick with a platform to win All-Irelands. 2A is providing competitive hurling for those outside of the Top 9.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 21/05/2022 21:54:57    2419303

Link

The result for Kerry means that the losers of Tipp and Cork will have to stay training for the next month at least - anticipating a Kerry win. A big defeat for Waterford could also see them finishing bottom but given the way the score difference is it's unlikely they get dragged into it

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 22/05/2022 07:47:53    2419307

Link

Outstanding performance from Carlow yesterday. Second year in a row to come so close to making final, having led Westmeath last year up to injury time.
Carlow management deserves hugh credit for building this team. Lost 8 starters from 2021 Westmeath game, many of the big names of carlow hurling successes over past few years. Used the Kehoe Cup to find new talent and mould a new team, started 3 U20s yesterday and another came on. Not many counties can sustain that turn around and still remain competitive.
Watching interviews etc. / reports over the league and championship never used this as an excuse, just got on with the business.
Well done, and hard luck at the same time..

Carlowtothecore1 (Carlow) - Posts: 60 - 22/05/2022 08:11:52    2419312

Link

Two best teams are in the final

Kerry hammered Carlow out the gate in Dr Cullen Park by 15pts so they can have no complaints and if truth be told Kerry should have bet Offaly lasf week in Tralee.

Antrim will be a different animal in the final but what an achievement by Kerry to be contesting their 3rd Joe McDonagh final in a row.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 926 - 22/05/2022 08:16:41    2419315

Link

Replying To legendzxix:  "Westmeath retaining Leinster status is good news for Division 2A. Kerry and Carlow finishing above Offaly is also good news for Division 2A. 1B provided Galway and Limerick with a platform to win All-Irelands. 2A is providing competitive hurling for those outside of the Top 9."
Id say the Joe Mcdoagh is the most competitive competition not just in Hurling but in Irish sport.All of us I am still including ourselves who want to be at that top table fight like dogs to get there.The standard of hurling in our counties is going up all the time thanks in many ways to the competition.
2023 will be even better.Antrim or Kerry,Laois,Offaly,Carlow,Down and Kildare.Thanks be to God we are out of it.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1701 - 22/05/2022 08:21:57    2419317

Link

Replying To carlovia:  "Great to hear it old friend.

Your lads gone way back in the hurling of late."
Carlovia only one player from the 2 club finalists made themselves available for the county panel, whatever the reason.

Wicklow hurling is now like a wheelie bin on fire.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2929 - 22/05/2022 10:29:12    2419328

Link

Replying To Carlowtothecore1:  "Outstanding performance from Carlow yesterday. Second year in a row to come so close to making final, having led Westmeath last year up to injury time.
Carlow management deserves hugh credit for building this team. Lost 8 starters from 2021 Westmeath game, many of the big names of carlow hurling successes over past few years. Used the Kehoe Cup to find new talent and mould a new team, started 3 U20s yesterday and another came on. Not many counties can sustain that turn around and still remain competitive.
Watching interviews etc. / reports over the league and championship never used this as an excuse, just got on with the business.
Well done, and hard luck at the same time.."
They've got the right man in charge too. You've got some serious talent down there. Its only a matter of time.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2320 - 22/05/2022 11:56:17    2419347

Link

Replying To sponger:  "Carlovia only one player from the 2 club finalists made themselves available for the county panel, whatever the reason.

Wicklow hurling is now like a wheelie bin on fire."
It's a pity because if I remember right your U21 team won the B championship a few years ago, around the same
time as we played you in the Ring semi final.

Need to turn it around quickly as it can feed into years and years of underachievement.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1536 - 22/05/2022 12:34:22    2419364

Link

Replying To jobber:  "Id say the Joe Mcdoagh is the most competitive competition not just in Hurling but in Irish sport.All of us I am still including ourselves who want to be at that top table fight like dogs to get there.The standard of hurling in our counties is going up all the time thanks in many ways to the competition.
2023 will be even better.Antrim or Kerry,Laois,Offaly,Carlow,Down and Kildare.Thanks be to God we are out of it."
2 of Antrim or Kerry or Laois
Carlow
Offaly
Down
Kildare

Kildare were a step above everyone in the Ring. While Meath found the McDonagh Cup tough going, are they going to be a step above everyone in the Ring as well?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 8788 - 22/05/2022 12:35:31    2419367

Link

Replying To Past hurler:  "Two best teams are in the final

Kerry hammered Carlow out the gate in Dr Cullen Park by 15pts so they can have no complaints and if truth be told Kerry should have bet Offaly lasf week in Tralee.

Antrim will be a different animal in the final but what an achievement by Kerry to be contesting their 3rd Joe McDonagh final in a row."
Not sure I'd agree. Kerry lost to Offaly and Down and beat an under strength Antrim to qualify.

It's a league system and three teams finished on 6 points each so not all clear cut.

But that's the way it goes and in fairness the fixtures fell well for us a few years ago when we beat an already qualified Westmeath.

Genuinely will be cheering for Kerry but only because I'd like to see the two Boyles getting their reward. Mikey seems to be getting better with age.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1536 - 22/05/2022 12:39:22    2419371

Link

Replying To Bon:  "They've got the right man in charge too. You've got some serious talent down there. Its only a matter of time."
If we can get James Doyle back next year we will be a match for any team but with a small pick we need to get lucky with injuries.

Great competition though and great to see our neighbours in Kildare back in it. Look forward to the next injury time drama filled game in Newbridge between ourselves.

Maybe some year you lads could visit Carlow.

carlovia (None) - Posts: 1536 - 22/05/2022 12:42:03    2419375

Link

What happens if Kerry win the final but then lose the play off v bottom team in Munster?

Do we have a 7 team McDonagh next year? That would be logistically awkward given the extended number of weekends needed.

Surely in fairness if Kerry win they should get a place in Munster next year as a 6th team. And leave Leinster instead at 5.

Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1566 - 22/05/2022 13:17:11    2419383

Link

The Joe Mc Donagh hurling championship has been very good over the years
The Gaa has to give this to TG4 and show a weekly game and highlights

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 22/05/2022 14:04:11    2419389

Link

Replying To Onion Breath:  "What happens if Kerry win the final but then lose the play off v bottom team in Munster?

Do we have a 7 team McDonagh next year? That would be logistically awkward given the extended number of weekends needed.

Surely in fairness if Kerry win they should get a place in Munster next year as a 6th team. And leave Leinster instead at 5."
If Kerry win but fail to win the subsequent playoff, then our friends Laois receive a reprieve and remain in next years Leinster Championship.

Kerry can only enter Munster and bizarrely have to play a further playoff should they win the Joe McDonagh out; so we actually have different rules for different teams, in the same competition. Only in the GAA.

Mind you, Kerry for the reasonable amount of clubs that they have down there (far greater in number than say Carlow); aren't shy about availing of the parentage rule. Theres a fair splattering of Limerick men on the panel, so not entirely organic.

Best of luck to them nonetheless.

Imagine if they win it and the subsequent playoff too... Laois and potentially Tipp could be in the Joe McDonagh Cup next year

Passer_By (Carlow) - Posts: 534 - 22/05/2022 14:13:12    2419393

Link

Replying To carlovia:  "It's a pity because if I remember right your U21 team won the B championship a few years ago, around the same
time as we played you in the Ring semi final.

Need to turn it around quickly as it can feed into years and years of underachievement."
Anyway, great result for ye yesterday.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2929 - 22/05/2022 15:36:52    2419434

Link

Replying To Passer_By:  "If Kerry win but fail to win the subsequent playoff, then our friends Laois receive a reprieve and remain in next years Leinster Championship.

Kerry can only enter Munster and bizarrely have to play a further playoff should they win the Joe McDonagh out; so we actually have different rules for different teams, in the same competition. Only in the GAA.

Mind you, Kerry for the reasonable amount of clubs that they have down there (far greater in number than say Carlow); aren't shy about availing of the parentage rule. Theres a fair splattering of Limerick men on the panel, so not entirely organic.

Best of luck to them nonetheless.

Imagine if they win it and the subsequent playoff too... Laois and potentially Tipp could be in the Joe McDonagh Cup next year"
If Kerry win it Laois will stay in the McCarthy

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15745 - 22/05/2022 15:39:16    2419439

Link