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Great teams don't 'flop down'. They would not give it to say to their critics that they only beat a team with fourteen men.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 17/05/2022 08:12:40 2417963 Link 0 |
Agree about the argument it would slow the game down being nonsense. In numerous instances this year some leading to cards, but many that didn't also , the referee spent up to 2 minutes consulting linesmen and umpires. A TV referee would actually have saved time in these cases.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11727 - 17/05/2022 09:17:26 2417976 Link 1 |
I think 2 referees has merit but what about linesmen, umpires, etc? ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1122 - 17/05/2022 10:01:14 2418000 Link 1 |
Isn't it an awful pity that hurling is now more about controversy and reffing more than the great displays..I think I might have mentioned in an earlier post,that I feared this would happen..ive a feeling it's not going to end at that.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2206 - 17/05/2022 10:16:42 2418007 Link 0 |
TJ Ryan said on Anthony Daly podcast last night that the first yellow was not for the quick sideline but rather a clip Hegarty gave David Mc before the ball went out of play. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2473 - 17/05/2022 10:24:41 2418013 Link 0 |
I agree with you I hope we are at the end of it it was a fine game of hurling I have met both sets of Supporters who say the referee was shocking so I suppose what ever your take is on it. I am sure the Referee started out with best intentions game is so fast now lighter sliother players fitter so some mistakes are to be expected. Maybe this might also put an end to this feigned injuries. Munster Final promises to be great occasion roll on clooney (Clare) - Posts: 878 - 17/05/2022 10:39:16 2418016 Link 0 |
No need to apologize - I understand I can be a bit all over the place on forums and frustrate posters. Just thought be better to explain.
Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 17/05/2022 10:57:57 2418027 Link 0 |
If that is true lrh why did no one else pick up on it??a lot of spoken in previous post about linesmen and umpires..now the linesmen in ennis were two inter county refs,they'd didn't help Colm lyons..I'm completely puzzled in last few years that umpires don't consult more with the ref,why are they all wired up,listening to a match elsewhere??if they start reporting what everyone can see,players might stop acting the maggot..when was last time action was taken on umpires word? CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2206 - 17/05/2022 11:03:52 2418029 Link 0 |
I'm not jumping on any Limerick-bashing bandwagon, Oldtourman, but you only have to go back 12 months. It didn't get much publicity at the time but near the end of the Limerick-Tipp league game last May young Bryan O'Meara got a slightly late dunt from Kyle Hayes which resulted in a broken arm. It ruled him out for the rest of the season but thankfully, as he showed in the Fitzgibbon Cup, he has made a complete recovery and but for the fact that he's gone travelling he would surely have been a certain starter for Tipp. The incident wasn't shown clearly on television but Brian Gavin referred to it in the Examiner as "a nasty chop", I think. On a general note, I'm not so sure that "the big three" get more favourable treatment from the media. There was less scrutiny by pundits 15-20 years ago, and no social media frenzy, so KK, or any other team, weren't under the microscope to the same extent. I agree the foul on Sean Finn was nasty but I wouldn't regard Cork as a dirty team. I know many of their followers wish they were more physical! Limerick have been excessively targetted and like most teams they have been victims of some bad decisions (like last Sunday) but they've also got away with a few. The worry for Limrick is that some of their best players seem to attract attention regularly but I'm sure John Kiely is dealing with that.
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 541 - 17/05/2022 11:04:50 2418032 Link 0 |
Are you sure? I couldnt see Hegarty doing anything like that.... :-D
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 17/05/2022 11:13:38 2418040 Link 0 |
Having watched American sports for the last number of years which all have oficials looking at TV I can assure you it will not speed things up. I often watched a game stop for 5 minutes when something is being reviewd. A lot of times the call is obvious and on top of the delay they still get it wrong. Don't forget no matter how it is done it is still up to human judgement. What you or I see may not be what the official watching TV sees.
gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 17/05/2022 11:19:03 2418046 Link 0 |
I was right in front of that incident in the North terrace and can assure you nothing happened. TJ I'd imagine was guessing as the yellow was so ludicrous he's trying to find another reason for the yellow. There was no tip/flick before the line ball.
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 17/05/2022 11:26:49 2418051 Link 1 |
Im only saying what your own county man said last night. Not up for debating it.
LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2473 - 17/05/2022 11:28:17 2418052 Link 0 |
I think if anyone would like to get an objective view on the hegarty situation read Jackie tyrells piece from the gaa podcast on the rte website and John fogarty in the examiner today. Actually there's countless others. Anyone drawing this out any more really isn't looking at this objectively and possibly have also along with colm lyons gotten carried away with the narrative surrounding Gearoid. The Sunday game even had a clare man who agreed both yellows were ridiculous. Limerick are in a very nice position now heading to thurles. They'll have a real appetite to perform at or near their peak that day. They'll bring a massive crowd and will look to really lay a marker down for the rest of the year. I'm looking forward to it and having a novel final with our neighbours. Whets the appetite. daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1123 - 17/05/2022 11:37:00 2418055 Link 1 |
Umpires are not qualified to do that in most cases. I've said it for years that umpires should be club referees - it serves the purpose of having qualified people doing the job while also getting more referees involved and interested. Theres a serious shortage of inter county referees the last few years - its the same few for every Liam Mc game.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 17/05/2022 11:41:31 2418058 Link 0 |
To be fair theres a Youtube video of Jackie targetting the youngest player on a number of opposition teams for some brutal tackles when he was playing, so a flick of the hurley for him can't be seen as much in his eyes. The reason Hegarty has a reputation is from his own acts of stupidity, just like Gillane has a reputation - as has Gleeson and Cathal Barrett. In soccer terms no one ever questioned Keane or Vieira being targetted by refs as they were players who never learned to control their emotions. While it should have been only one yellow from the evidence I seen, I also said after 5 mins that one of McInerney or Hegarty would be sent off. Similiarly Gleeson could be seen laughing and goading the Cork player in that match. These lads havent matured and you just dont get away with it at intercounty level. DJ Carey and Eoin Kelly came in for a lot worse treatment and I dont recall many red cards there - do your talking on the scoreboard.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 17/05/2022 11:48:37 2418061 Link 0 |
Nobody wants to get to the point of rugby or soccer or any American sport....that is boring as all those sports are boring enough as it is. But if the referee had a 30 second look at the incident, he would not have sent Hegarty off. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1122 - 17/05/2022 11:49:30 2418062 Link 0 |
lohan yourself and your clare friends should know better than anyone the way limerick are been refereed as ye went through the very same in 98 and i hope this doesnt happen to limerick this year.....its just the nature of sport. people dont want to see the same team winning every year as it gets boring.
munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1095 - 17/05/2022 12:00:29 2418070 Link 0 |
How do you know? Theres plenty of people debating it after watching it loads of times. For the Gillane incident the week before most pundits said a yellow and Brian Gavin and a number of referees (per the IE podcast) said it was a red. In that case he could easily have taken 5 mins. I'm all for the right decision but where do you draw the line - no one wants hurling slowed down.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 17/05/2022 12:02:43 2418073 Link 0 |
I'm sure the Tipperary defense (and almost all defenses) would love to see hurling slowed down.
foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1903 - 17/05/2022 12:33:53 2418090 Link 0 |