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https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2022/0516/1298330-tyrrell-focus-should-be-on-players-feigning-injury/ daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1125 - 16/05/2022 16:01:15 2417810 Link 0 |
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Not even close and I don't want Tony Kelly or Aaron Gullane or any other player targeted by us in the quest to win. Here we go again its Austin Gleeson's fault. I doubt you were in Walsh Park yesterday. That's okay. I will give an update without the t.v. b.s. and pundits from behind the goal. Cork point was clear from behind the goal to go in off the upright. Pat Curran's free was wide. Gleeson's first yellow card was slightly late but when he initiated the hit the player was part of the play but not when hit. Okay protect the players but the great Frank Cummins and yere Brian Lohan would execute 5 or 6 like this on any given day. The second yellow card Downey came from behind around the neck and dragged Gleeson to the ground in a dangerous fashion. Probably should have been a straight red but I don't like to see players red carded except it is a very bad incident. Gleeson did nothing other than pushing him away on this one. Say what you like about Gleeson he can give it and take it but you won't find him faking injury or trying to get his opponent off. He's a man playing a man's game. I am not going to keep making a meal about this and under no circumstances detract from Cork's win but some of the stuff going on is disgusting in the game I love. Fakers and out right targeting by managers or players is horrible. Gleeson's targeting through the league and championship is off the charts. Why ? Because very few could stand with him so far this year. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 16/05/2022 16:06:39 2417811 Link 1 |
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The line ball? What was yellow about that? No first yellow. Second yellow, yes! Thus, no red. That's what "we do". We see! foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1903 - 16/05/2022 16:29:35 2417825 Link 1 |
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I'm dyslexic and do find it hard to keep up on such active treads. I appreciate your kind words about my YouTube skills. You seem like a person that knows quiet allot. Do you think Hegarty made an attempt to hit the Clare lad with his hurl? Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 16/05/2022 16:34:39 2417829 Link 0 |
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Are you for real,if you think that's a straight red,then we might as well give up on hurling.I hope your taking the mick.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 16/05/2022 16:59:50 2417848 Link 1 |
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Players, managers, supporters, Twitter referees, and so on. No matter who loses, it is the referees fault. Everybody is so quick to abdicate players of any responsibility. Hegarty did not deserve to be sent off. Gleeson can have no complaints from the angle behind the goal for me. But the thing is, both gave the referee a decision. I think if the referees had a review, or a referral a la cricket, Gleeson would have walked but Hegarty would not have. In that case though, I think the player feigning injury needs to be dealt with. A black card for this maybe? A red card is too much, a yellow card won't cut it out! My son was hurling a club match in Wexford recently and this young chap came in and won the first couple of balls and fell straight across him theatrically, blatantly diving for frees. He won 2 frees in the first 5 minutes. My son is a fair player who hits hard and isn't afraid to take one. He said to him after the second one "be ready for the knee that lands on your back next time you do that". That was the end of that, he didn't dive again and he got another couple of (legal) great hits on this little cheat. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1122 - 16/05/2022 17:03:57 2417852 Link 0 |
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I think, could be totally wrong, before the weekend results, afraid a small crowd,be hoping now should be a great day out.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 16/05/2022 17:04:05 2417853 Link 0 |
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Jackie tyrell sums it up in a nutshell here. Hope a few people on here have a read.
daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1125 - 16/05/2022 17:04:06 2417854 Link 4 |
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No he doesn't, whatever about the second yellow, don't blame the ref,the Clare player is at fault but the first yellow was worse,hegarty took a sideline and the Clare player stood in his way,that call was worse then the second yellow.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 16/05/2022 17:07:23 2417857 Link 2 |
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I'm dyslexic too,that has nothing to with this,as I have said,what ever about the second yellow, which the Clare player is at fault,how did hegarty get the first yellow for trying to take a sideline.
cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 16/05/2022 17:10:54 2417860 Link 0 |
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I think he did, which a lot of people here seem to be conveniently ignoring.
Bosco98 (Galway) - Posts: 127 - 16/05/2022 17:20:01 2417864 Link 0 |
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Oh I'd love it too, there would be a great night in O'Sullivans if it's still going!
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 16/05/2022 17:22:27 2417865 Link 1 |
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Apologies, didn't realize that you are dyslexic. On social media you take people as you find them. An attempt? I can't really say. In rugby, I do know that they (sanction committee) do play the game back, and review controversial incidents, even where a player wasn't sanctioned by the referee during the game. Could it work in hurling? Yes. Let's say, an expert group looks at Hegarty's first yellow, and they, as I believe, see it that he was just taking a line-ball; no card. But then, see the second incident as a red card offense, and change the ref's yellow to a red. Similarly, with Austin Gleeson! A group reviews it. Let's say, first card was a deserved yellow. Second one, they see it, as I saw it; no card for Gleeson. He was blatantly dragged to the ground by Downey. All Gleeson did was to defend himself. What is a player supposed to do in such a situation? So, rescind Gleeson's red card, and increase Downey's yellow to a red. At the moment, appeals are all about getting something quashed or reduced. What if the authorities have the power to increase or add punishments, based on reviews of a game? It should apply across the board to diving, delaying tactics, and missed dirtiness by the ref. It might start putting manners into the mouthers and feigners, and allow manly players like Austin Gleeson and Gearoid Hegarty get on with the game, and producing some of the best hurling you're ever gonna see! foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1903 - 16/05/2022 17:45:12 2417881 Link 2 |
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Hegarty saw the Clare player stand in front of the sideline in order to slow it down and still decided to pull. A yellow? No but again he gives Lyons a decision to make. It happens a lot in order to slow a game down and the way to address it is to move the ball in for a free. That'll deal with that. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 16/05/2022 17:54:58 2417885 Link 1 |
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Double standard out of you then, OK for Clare man to dive but Limerick can't, stupid comment. We're not holier than thou, just look at the last 5 minutes yesterday and Finn should have free out for drag back by O'Donnell which led to Clare point and Reidy had the togs nearly ripped off him which should have been a Limerick free and point. That's a 2 point swing if a ref does his job fairly and properly. Even Conlons tackle near the end is a terrible challenge worthy of a red but Hannon stood up and didn't flop down. McInerney also had a tap on ODonoghe in the first which deserved a red if Hegartys deserved a yellow for his sending off.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 16/05/2022 18:38:13 2417901 Link 3 |
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totally agree this diving culture has to be stamped out the gaa have to address this at next congress or our games will loose their warrior ethos and become a replica of the weak we see every day from other shores
hillman (Limerick) - Posts: 20 - 16/05/2022 19:10:27 2417911 Link 2 |
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As a Limerick man we are square with Clare now for 2018 when they had David Reidy put off for nothing. No harm keeping the hurl held tight either. It was Hegarty's best game so far. He got a fair amount of stuff off the ball all day. I think we would have put them away if we had the 15. We should have enough for them the next day. I thought it was fierce funny the way Davy Fitzgerald said (about the other Day Fitzgerald) on the Sunday game 'and I have to point out, Davy Fitzgerald's contribution was absolutely massive in todays game. He was absolutely phenomenal Des' Lohan must have been fit to puke. Could it have been any other name! stpats1886 (Limerick) - Posts: 39 - 16/05/2022 20:17:29 2417923 Link 2 |
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I have put forward several solution to helping out with better officiating of hurling . I also agree that officiating will never please everyone. However start out from a position of strength and modernize the officiating to match how the actual playing has evolved. 1. Two referees. 2. Electronic scoring that immediately sounds a hooter or a goal light. 3. Time clock in the stadium. Either shorten the game to 60 minutes playing time or carry on as is just displaying time. 4. All red cards reviewed before dismissing a player. 5. One coach's/ managers review allowed to avoid what happened to Limerick. Don't give me this crap about the money to do it or it slowing the game down for 30secs. here and there as time can be lost in many ways already. Getting more decisions correct is more important. This is the cost of bringing up the officiating to a standard that the game now demands. While like I said you will never please both side but quiet frankly the stand of officiating is deplorable. Not so much the referees mind you who are on a hiding to nothing. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 16/05/2022 21:35:53 2417940 Link 1 |
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Sullivan's Hotel is still there. Good food and a good pint. Galway Abu.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 16/05/2022 21:38:05 2417941 Link 0 |
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Excellent post. There's too much going on that's going unpunished.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1898 - 16/05/2022 21:54:46 2417950 Link 1 |