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Replying To munsterchamps:  "the 2015 and 17 limerick under21 teams have up on 50 all ireland senior medals between them."
Yep. Probably the best transfer of u21 to Senior greatness ever!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13752 - 27/04/2022 11:46:45    2413556

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "I'm giving Laois a great chance too, especially if the day stays fine, as predicted, and conditions are conducive to 'top of the ground hurling' as the Corkman would say.

If there's a downpour, and conditions make for muddy-mullocking, then that'd suit Wexford down to a tee, or a Dee even!

Just hope it's an overall good game anyway, with just a puck
of a ball between the sides at the end. Isn't that all
that anyone can ask of a game?"
I don't think that's reflective of our current style at all.

Tough conditions usually favour the team with less hurling as the contest becomes more physical and this is easier to match.

Dry day means pure hurling is performed at greater speed which would certainly favour us.

Provided we actually turn up of course which is no certainty.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3125 - 27/04/2022 12:37:39    2413579

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Not going to guess the scores but for weekend:

Wexford, Dublin, Cats and Clare all to win.

Just to be clear, is it definitely points difference to decide tied points as opposed to head-to-head?

Think that was the call when they all finished on same points in 2019 in Leinster."
Unfortunately I Don't think the dubs will have to worry about points difference this year, because I think this will be their last points to win v Westmeath as I expect Galway and Kilkenny to both beat Dublin.....now I could be wrong but will have to wait and see!!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2471 - 27/04/2022 13:21:29    2413600

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Tiobraid I'm agreeing with you on the performance of Morgan,has been outstanding..I've asked if he was brought in 3 years ago he,d now be established and possibly a leader..ive asked about paddy cadell and Jerome Cahill,two outstanding in those 2 teams but havnt got an extended run.do you think if Callanan and bubbles were available kehoe would have got his chance??i will say I'm not unhappy that tipp look a long way off,and we in limerick need to make the most of the good days we are having..we will have our bad days again..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2372 - 27/04/2022 13:26:50    2413606

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Replying To Viking66:  "For sure they were a good team. Waterford won it pulling up that year though. Not sure if you would've beaten them but we will never know. Definitely over the 3 years you had more great hurlers at that grade. This is a large part of why you have 3 Senior all Irelands and Waterford haven't."
Important to recognize that the basis of that Waterford team could never beat our lads in the Munster minor finals

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 27/04/2022 13:28:14    2413608

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Important to recognize that the basis of that Waterford team could never beat our lads in the Munster minor finals"
They won the minor AI in 2013!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13752 - 27/04/2022 14:20:20    2413632

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I don't think that's reflective of our current style at all.

Tough conditions usually favour the team with less hurling as the contest becomes more physical and this is easier to match.

Dry day means pure hurling is performed at greater speed which would certainly favour us.

Provided we actually turn up of course which is no certainty."
Don't mind him Doyler your neighbours cat knows more about hurling!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13752 - 27/04/2022 14:21:34    2413633

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Not going to guess the scores but for weekend:

Wexford, Dublin, Cats and Clare all to win.

Just to be clear, is it definitely points difference to decide tied points as opposed to head-to-head?

Think that was the call when they all finished on same points in 2019 in Leinster."
Pretty sure its head to head if two teams but score difference if 3 or more teams finish on same points

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/04/2022 14:51:01    2413651

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Replying To Viking66:  "They won the minor AI in 2013!"
They did but Limerick beat them in a replayed Munster Final in Both '13 and '14 and beat them in '16 in Walsh Park. Great matches, all five of them.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4465 - 27/04/2022 14:56:12    2413654

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For the weekend I'm going for a draw between KK and Galway but wouldnt be surprised at all to see KK winning this one well. Dublin to win by 8+ and Wexford to just about get past Laois by 2-3 in the end. Against everything I've seen this year I think Cork will surprise a lot of people and run up a big score against Clare and win with a bit to spare.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/04/2022 14:57:48    2413656

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Replying To katser:  "Unfortunately I Don't think the dubs will have to worry about points difference this year, because I think this will be their last points to win v Westmeath as I expect Galway and Kilkenny to both beat Dublin.....now I could be wrong but will have to wait and see!!"
You almost always wrong so that's a comfort.

Surprised you didn't pick Westmeath to beat us. We might rest a few for Salthill depending on how things look for the last day although i would prefer not to personally :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3090 - 27/04/2022 14:58:33    2413657

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Replying To Viking66:  "Don't mind him Doyler your neighbours cat knows more about hurling!"
Of course he should. Your neighboring cats are Kilkenny people. I'd readily expect a KK person to know more about hurling than I do; paws down!

However, Viking you quite often display your own Scandinavian heritage when it comes to your knowledge of the game of hurling: rather remote and insular.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2093 - 27/04/2022 15:14:50    2413661

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "You almost always wrong so that's a comfort.

Surprised you didn't pick Westmeath to beat us. We might rest a few for Salthill depending on how things look for the last day although i would prefer not to personally :-)"
I was watching Dublin v Wexford the last day and I don't know how some of the Wexford lads didn't get seriously injured! Dublin have to be the most awkward hurling team out there.....wild mad swinging and then just pox lucky with scores...its like they close their eyes and just hit the ball hard up into the air and hope it goes over the bar!
It's funny watching them.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2471 - 27/04/2022 16:25:39    2413695

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Of course he should. Your neighboring cats are Kilkenny people. I'd readily expect a KK person to know more about hurling than I do; paws down!

However, Viking you quite often display your own Scandinavian heritage when it comes to your knowledge of the game of hurling: rather remote and insular."
Good 1! I should've used " every dog on the street knows more about hurling than Mr Young"! I go to see 40 odd games of hurling every year and watch the same again on TV or live stream. Not as remote or insular as an expat in Japan! As reflected in our performances as tipsters. Leaving out Wexfords results, who I'd have to tip even against Limerick due to a belief that its bad form to back against your own, I've guessed the result of every Championship game of hurling right this year in both Munster and Leinster.
Tips for this weekend- feel free to visit your online bookies Mr Young-
Wexford
Galway
Dublin
Clare
Although, bravado aside , I wouldn't recommend anyone rush to the bookies with these four as an accum as Cork or Kilkenny or both could ruin it. Actually feck it I'll throw a tenner on it.
You picked -
Laois
Kilkenny
Dublin
Clare
You have done fairly well so far this year. Apart from also getting the 2 Wexford results wrong you also thought Cork would beat Limerick. Maybe you will even up the score between us this weekend.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13752 - 27/04/2022 16:37:17    2413698

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "They did but Limerick beat them in a replayed Munster Final in Both '13 and '14 and beat them in '16 in Walsh Park. Great matches, all five of them."
They did for sure. And those same lads should really be going for 5 in a row now. And it would be Kilkenny as usual spoilt the whole thing!!!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13752 - 27/04/2022 16:43:38    2413703

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Replying To katser:  "I was watching Dublin v Wexford the last day and I don't know how some of the Wexford lads didn't get seriously injured! Dublin have to be the most awkward hurling team out there.....wild mad swinging and then just pox lucky with scores...its like they close their eyes and just hit the ball hard up into the air and hope it goes over the bar!
It's funny watching them."
I don't recall anyone laughing at us last Summer or in Parnell in 2019.

One of the reasons Galway have such a bad record against Dublin and certain other teams is that you have some bizarre notion that you are on the same historical plane as Tipp and Cork and the Cats, or even Limerick who were never gifted an All Ireland semi final for 50 years. I'd imagine they would have won a better share of them too .

What possessed Henry is beyond me, but there you. Pity maybe ...

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3090 - 27/04/2022 17:32:58    2413716

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Replying To katser:  "I was watching Dublin v Wexford the last day and I don't know how some of the Wexford lads didn't get seriously injured! Dublin have to be the most awkward hurling team out there.....wild mad swinging and then just pox lucky with scores...its like they close their eyes and just hit the ball hard up into the air and hope it goes over the bar!
It's funny watching them."
I'd b careful... This might not age well based on recent history.

Dublin hurling core following are great hurling people generally, but I'm inclined to agree... I may be a hurling snob, but it just doesn't look right to me

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3125 - 27/04/2022 19:23:07    2413728

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I don't recall anyone laughing at us last Summer or in Parnell in 2019.

One of the reasons Galway have such a bad record against Dublin and certain other teams is that you have some bizarre notion that you are on the same historical plane as Tipp and Cork and the Cats, or even Limerick who were never gifted an All Ireland semi final for 50 years. I'd imagine they would have won a better share of them too .

What possessed Henry is beyond me, but there you. Pity maybe ..."
What was Dublin's record in Leinster before Galway arrived?

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 28/04/2022 09:24:01    2413760

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I don't recall anyone laughing at us last Summer or in Parnell in 2019.

One of the reasons Galway have such a bad record against Dublin and certain other teams is that you have some bizarre notion that you are on the same historical plane as Tipp and Cork and the Cats, or even Limerick who were never gifted an All Ireland semi final for 50 years. I'd imagine they would have won a better share of them too .

What possessed Henry is beyond me, but there you. Pity maybe ..."
As a matter of interest, given that Galway was the best team (and only team) in Connaught for all those 50 years that you mention, or even more than 50 probably, were Galway crowned Connaught champions each year?

If so, Galway would have to have more provincial titles than KK or even Kerry (football). Some guy like PJ Molloy would have about 20 Connaught medals or more.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2093 - 28/04/2022 09:43:59    2413773

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Replying To baire:  "What was Dublin's record in Leinster before Galway arrived?"
Quite decent actually! And here are the stats for ya!

Dublin: Leinster titles: 55

Senior: 24 - 1889, '92, '94, '96, 1902, '06, '08, '17, '19, '20, '21, '24, '27, '28, '30, '34, '38, '41, '42, '44, '48, '52, '61, 2013

Under 21/20: Seven - 1967, '72, 2007, '10, '11, 16, '20

Minor: 16 - 1928, '38, '45, '46, '47, '52, '53, '54, '65, '83, 2005, '07, '11, '12, '16, '18

Junior: Eight - 1908, '25, '32, '37, '47, '50, '52, '55

Almost identical to Wexford's record (obviously I'm not gonna bring up KK's incomparable record):

Wexford: Leinster titles: 56

Senior: 21 - 1890, '91, '99, 1901, '10, '18, '51, 54, '55, '56, '60, '62, '65, '68, '70, '76, '77, '96, '97, 2004, '19

Under 21: 17 - 1964, '65, '66, '69, '70, '71, '73, '79, '86, '87, '96, '97, 2001, 2002, '13, '14, '15

Minor: Eight - 1963, '66, '67, '68, '70, '80, '85, 2019

Intermediate: Three - 2001, 2002, 2014

Junior: Seven - 1926, '40, '57, '59, '85, '87, '92

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2093 - 28/04/2022 10:02:19    2413779

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