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Replying To clooney:  "Shane got 3 MOTH awards in the Hurling campaign was GAA GPA player of month May he has shown enormous courage to ever play hurling again my God the personalisation on the forum is appealing.

Clare of course wont get 3 All Stars this was the pundits selection probably 1when its picked, I hope its Shane but more likely D Fitzgerald."
Fitzgerald nailed on for sure. You'd have to feel bad for Whelan though who single-handedly leads the Galway attack

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 281 - 18/07/2022 17:50:24    2432802

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Replying To festinog:  "You'd worry for the Cats without Reid. He single-handedly kept them in it at times yesterday. He'd leave a massive hole in any team, but on the strength of what we saw yesterday, the current KK team would struggle without him."
It was said the same when Henry retired and Carey before him right back to Keher. Even before Eddie. They always have some one else that steps up to be the supremo and a team grows around him. Limerick are the first since the start of the sport to challenge the big three to be consistently great and my god that should be a shot in the arm to the rest. I heard some stupidity from a commentator yesterday about they being an old team. Where are these people coming from and how do they get a platform for this nonsense ? Limerick are a young team in their prime period with dept. They are among the greatest already and well on the way to the greatest. There are more All-Irelands in them even if not back to back. Its a wonderful ride watching them.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2371 - 18/07/2022 18:32:30    2432807

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Cahill and Bevans are back in Tipp. They will get them fitter. Will be interesting to see whether he starts with a largely new senior panel and retires alot of the older lads or whether he tries to bring them along for their experience. Also it will be interesting to see how he sets the team up tactically. Waterford looked all at sea that way this year.
Finally after achieving a little success in the shortened seasons it will be interesting to see how he adjusts to the round robins. Ultimately he has won no senior championship trophies in his career despite having what most pundits agreed was the deepest intercounty squad this year so he has alot to prove still.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6707 - 18/07/2022 20:18:28    2432820

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http://limerickhurling.blogspot.com/2022/07/the-perfect-day.html?m=1

Thanks to all in Limerick for giving us the perfect day.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6355 - 18/07/2022 21:18:12    2432825

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Replying To festinog:  "Shíos i Cill Cheannaigh, measaim, ag caoineadh ina beoir."
Sílim go bhfuil OTM in éineacht leis le sólás a thabhairt dó! Bhí seisean cinnte go mbuafadh na cait freisin!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1392 - 19/07/2022 07:11:19    2432830

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I had a team with mannnion at 6,Kelly at 12 and whelan at 15..am I the only person who can't see what journalists and analysts see in o donnell..I know he has been out for a long time with serious concussion..for me he just goes to get the scores you would expect from a top class forward..I just can't figure how whelan has been left out.but this is only my opinion.."
Youd select a player who hardly play at 6 all year ahead of Hannon? For me the centre back position was never as easy to pick and I'd have Hannon as fourth choice for Hurler of the year.
SOD got man of match against Wexford and you couldnt but laugh at the decision. I'm almost certain he didnnt touch the ball for 65/66 mins of that game. Tom Monaghan was miles ahead of him. Even Tom M wo had a queiter year than others is ahead of him.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3710 - 19/07/2022 09:25:39    2432842

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Replying To baire:  "The selection of the players seems to be based, to a large degree, on their performances in the AIF and AISF.
Unlike Cork's performances in last year's AIF the KK players selected on this year's team of the year deserved their selection based on their performances in both the semi and All Ireland Final. Clare did not excel against the Leinster teams - they got the breaks against Wexford and were poor against KK in the semi-final. Neither Kelly nor SOD were outstanding in either of those games. In my opinion J Cooney and C Whelan were ahead of the Clare lads. I'd also give a mention to Tom Monaghan."
Whelan didnt score in the first 3 games of the cship - I dont think he played in them but its worth pointing out. Tony Kelly scored 13 points from play against Limerick in the cship. Its possibly lazy analysis but Whelan scored 2 points against Limerick - granted theres a lot more to a game than that.
Theres so much to debate than just them few games but Kellys performace in the first game was out of this world. Cant be left out for me. The two lads were really good but only one of the 3 Galway lads (incl Monahan) gets in for me.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3710 - 19/07/2022 09:45:15    2432849

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Youd select a player who hardly play at 6 all year ahead of Hannon? For me the centre back position was never as easy to pick and I'd have Hannon as fourth choice for Hurler of the year.
SOD got man of match against Wexford and you couldnt but laugh at the decision. I'm almost certain he didnnt touch the ball for 65/66 mins of that game. Tom Monaghan was miles ahead of him. Even Tom M wo had a queiter year than others is ahead of him."
He was one of the few Clare players who played well in the 1st half Tiobraid.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6707 - 19/07/2022 09:48:49    2432851

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Youd select a player who hardly play at 6 all year ahead of Hannon? For me the centre back position was never as easy to pick and I'd have Hannon as fourth choice for Hurler of the year.
SOD got man of match against Wexford and you couldnt but laugh at the decision. I'm almost certain he didnnt touch the ball for 65/66 mins of that game. Tom Monaghan was miles ahead of him. Even Tom M wo had a queiter year than others is ahead of him."
The team of the year has 5 Limerick players from 1 to 7.
They conceded 2-26 against Kilkenny and 1-21 against Galway.
Hard to make a case for 5.

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 237 - 19/07/2022 10:07:41    2432855

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Replying To SixtiesKid:  "The team of the year has 5 Limerick players from 1 to 7.
They conceded 2-26 against Kilkenny and 1-21 against Galway.
Hard to make a case for 5."
I take your point but impossible to leave any of the 5 out in my opinion. They are all dead certs. Galway conceded similar scores (to the 1-21) against both Laois and Westmeath if I remember correctly. Scores in most games are high these days

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 3710 - 19/07/2022 10:59:46    2432876

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Teams of the year, all-star teams always generate controversy. Even though it's called a team, it's actually a collection of individual displays. Obviously the players from the teams which stay in the championship longer get more exposure, but that could also include exposure to make mistakes or perform poorly. For example, Aaron Gillane who had a fine AI final let me add, was in contention for POTY, but his final display probably ruled him out of that award.

Overall, it's a good team. A strong case could be made for Whelan, whom I think will receive an all-star at the expense of one of the Clare lads, possibly O'Donnell. But Whelan didn't burn a ball against Sean Finn, but few forwards ever do, so personally I would include Whelan.

The six backs and goalie pick themselves, IMO. Who would replace any man in each position?

I agree with midfield, even though a case could be made for O'Donoghue of Limerick over Mullen who played as often in the forwards during the year. However, I think they got it right.

Even though a team might go far in the championship, even win it, it could happen that it could have 15 well balanced players with only stand out players in 3-4 positions. Other counties might win nothing but have the stand out player in a given position. So, the champions could end up with the same number of players that a beaten semi-finalist has. Look at last year's hurling all-stars. Cork got to the final but got no all-star, a decision that I totally agree with, because each of the 15 positions in hurling last year had a better performer in it than any of the Cork lads.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1406 - 19/07/2022 11:11:50    2432884

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Replying To Viking66:  "Has to be said I thought it was a great game Pope! Only game better for me this year was our win in Nowlan Park. For obvious reasons!!! Although the final was a good watch too. Probably the best final since 2018."
Have been to finals since the late 70's and Sundays match is up there with the very best finals.

An incredible match where both teams gave us absolutely everything and produced a magnificent game of hurling thrilling all that were there and those watching.
It was a glorious day for a match with temperatures Spain like and both sets of players (and management's) should be saluted as real heroes and warriors for their fantastic display of all the skills composure physicality and sportsmanship- a real credit to their families clubs and managers.
The game of hurling is a great game and when it is played in the right spirit, it generates.memories that will last a lifetime.
Limerick are s great team, as good as any team that has played the game and full credit to them for three in a row which is a mighty achievement.

Great credit to The Cats as well- with doubters not giving them a chance.
But for me, leaving Croke Park on Sunday evening- my feeling was one of joy, joy that I was privileged to have been there to witness one of the best finals ever.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1740 - 19/07/2022 11:55:11    2432902

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Replying To carlowman:  "Have been to finals since the late 70's and Sundays match is up there with the very best finals.

An incredible match where both teams gave us absolutely everything and produced a magnificent game of hurling thrilling all that were there and those watching.
It was a glorious day for a match with temperatures Spain like and both sets of players (and management's) should be saluted as real heroes and warriors for their fantastic display of all the skills composure physicality and sportsmanship- a real credit to their families clubs and managers.
The game of hurling is a great game and when it is played in the right spirit, it generates.memories that will last a lifetime.
Limerick are s great team, as good as any team that has played the game and full credit to them for three in a row which is a mighty achievement.

Great credit to The Cats as well- with doubters not giving them a chance.
But for me, leaving Croke Park on Sunday evening- my feeling was one of joy, joy that I was privileged to have been there to witness one of the best finals ever."
Great post Carlowman. Highlighted all the positives that many on this forget about!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6707 - 19/07/2022 12:26:24    2432911

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Replying To Viking66:  "Cahill and Bevans are back in Tipp. They will get them fitter. Will be interesting to see whether he starts with a largely new senior panel and retires alot of the older lads or whether he tries to bring them along for their experience. Also it will be interesting to see how he sets the team up tactically. Waterford looked all at sea that way this year.
Finally after achieving a little success in the shortened seasons it will be interesting to see how he adjusts to the round robins. Ultimately he has won no senior championship trophies in his career despite having what most pundits agreed was the deepest intercounty squad this year so he has alot to prove still."
A good appointment for Tipp was gonna happen at some stage. The whole thing could have and probably should have been handled a bit better.
That said Bonner should never been put in that position in the first place, he was way out of his depth, he regularly looked like a deer in headlights.
A brilliant hurler in his day and gave his all but definitely should not have been placed in that role.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1742 - 19/07/2022 13:36:29    2432929

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Bonnar was treated appallingly, huge pressure on Cahill and Tipp to at least qualify next year, no easy task, Colm Bonnar became manager and through no fault of his own then lost Padraig Maher, Seamus Callinan, John McGrath and Bubbles O' Dwyer. Brendan Maher had just retired too, five All Stars, no manager would cope, imagine Kilkenny minus TJ, Padraig Walsh, Hugh Lawlor, Adrian Mullen and Eoin Murphy?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 867 - 19/07/2022 14:11:36    2432937

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Replying To Viking66:  "Cahill and Bevans are back in Tipp. They will get them fitter. Will be interesting to see whether he starts with a largely new senior panel and retires alot of the older lads or whether he tries to bring them along for their experience. Also it will be interesting to see how he sets the team up tactically. Waterford looked all at sea that way this year.
Finally after achieving a little success in the shortened seasons it will be interesting to see how he adjusts to the round robins. Ultimately he has won no senior championship trophies in his career despite having what most pundits agreed was the deepest intercounty squad this year so he has alot to prove still."
Waterford are and should be thankful to Liam Cahill. Despite the fiasco against Clare that did not matter other than to destroy morale. If you look at the last three All-Ireland we contested, two with outside management and one with a local. The nearest to a win was achieved by McGrath with what was then a bunch of kids. I don't know if there is a message in that or not. Tony Browne is held in high regard but personally I would need to know how much if any of his fingers were in the Clare brain freeze.
The whole thing of these managerial merry go arounds is an other subject. Liam is right to make his own decision but after saying he was looking forward to getting at it again and when Bonnar was dumped, does look like a back flip. I am sure he will do a great job in his native county. After all that is where the heart lies for every ex-player. Travelling out is gold digging.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2371 - 19/07/2022 14:20:37    2432940

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It will be interesting to see if Liam Cahill can turn Tipp around because to be fair after turfing out Colm Bonner after 1 year the expectation will be that he will turn them around, and fast!
They should never have appointed Colm Bonner, lots in Wexford think he was their poorest ever manager in spite of the turgid playing group he had at his disposal. They had just been in an All-Ireland semi final the previous year I think.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 477 - 19/07/2022 14:25:17    2432942

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Bonnar was treated appallingly, huge pressure on Cahill and Tipp to at least qualify next year, no easy task, Colm Bonnar became manager and through no fault of his own then lost Padraig Maher, Seamus Callinan, John McGrath and Bubbles O' Dwyer. Brendan Maher had just retired too, five All Stars, no manager would cope, imagine Kilkenny minus TJ, Padraig Walsh, Hugh Lawlor, Adrian Mullen and Eoin Murphy?"
Think even Limerick would struggle without 5 of their best players. But on the other hand 2 of those ads are retired and there's no guarantee the other 3 will commit for another year or will be as good as they were if they do. They are all past 30 and the modern game, with round robins and only a week, maybe 2 the odd time, between most games, is much harder physically and faster than it was.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 6707 - 19/07/2022 14:36:52    2432948

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The wording of the Tipperary County Board statement re Colm Bonnar was disgraceful, he deserved better than that shocking press release. The way it was worded could have been construed wrongly by many people.
Tipperary County Board & Liam Cahill are now under massive pressure to deliver an All Ireland within two years.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 19/07/2022 14:54:41    2432953

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Replying To Shocs07:  "Fitzgerald nailed on for sure. You'd have to feel bad for Whelan though who single-handedly leads the Galway attack"
Yes its never easy but its certainly easier if a forward has good / consistent team-mates around him but Conor Whelan doesn't have that luxury most of the time (a bit like Joe Canning for most of his intercounty career) so he often double or treble marked and the fact that he gets or creates a lot of scores through being fouled etc. and is constantly working / tackling defenders coming out deserves an all-star IMHO.

tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 2824 - 19/07/2022 15:48:35    2432968

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