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Replying To DUBJOHN:  "Yes you're correct that Kerry won't get a proper game until they play in the all Ireland semi final that's because they play in the hurling province of Munster, a cake walk most years,that's why they've won more all irelands than any one else !"
I think Johnny needs a hug

Forpucksake (UK) - Posts: 131 - 03/04/2022 20:02:06    2409355

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Replying To Belclare:  "Well O Hora embarrassed himself today.."
See you in 3 weeks !

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 658 - 03/04/2022 20:17:36    2409359

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "Kerry to win by hugh amount today , but they wont win Sam."
first half right, second will come later,

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 477 - 03/04/2022 20:24:46    2409367

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Replying To Belclare:  "Well O Hora embarrassed himself today.."
Razor sharp analysis there Belclare.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7973 - 03/04/2022 20:27:08    2409369

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If Mayo get Henelly. McBrien. Durcan. Mullin. McLaughlin. DOC. COC. Darren McHale. McDonagh and maybe Mark Moran fit and available we could still put it up to Galway and with God's blessing maybe even Roscommon.

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 658 - 03/04/2022 20:28:17    2409370

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Replying To ponga:  "If Mayo get Henelly. McBrien. Durcan. Mullin. McLaughlin. DOC. COC. Darren McHale. McDonagh and maybe Mark Moran fit and available we could still put it up to Galway and with God's blessing maybe even Roscommon."
Unfortunately, Ponga, Hennelly won't be fit in time for the Galway game.

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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7973 - 03/04/2022 20:38:58    2409373

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All I could do was laugh when I saw the antics of o hora today..he tried everything to get on Clifford's nerves,even staring into his eyes and mouthing,still DC scored I think 1-4 or 5..Clifford well able to look after himself..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2508 - 03/04/2022 20:39:52    2409375

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Funny many on our own thread implying we will be beaten out the gate in Castlebar after the Rossies (deservedly in fairness) pipped us. No thanks for being an inter county footballer these days methinks."
I think Mayo been written off and ridiculed will actually suit us. Paddy Durkan, Hennelly, Oisin Mullin, Eoghan McLoughlain and Diarmuid O Connor are all starters for me. That's a third of our team missing today. It was a terrible performance but we aren't that bad. Galway/Mayo game is a 50/50 game.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11563 - 03/04/2022 20:42:35    2409377

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As has been said Mayo with Hennelly, Durcan, Mullin and two fit O'Connors will be a totally different proposition to the one Kerry faced today.

Clifford is UNREAL. O'Hora did aswell as he could going 1 to 1 on him - actually one a few 50/50s which is extremely rare, but Mayo and (every other team Kerry face) will have to come up with some sort of plan to reduce his impact.

I think Mayo will get another crack at Kerry later in the year. What people on here seem to be forgetting is that the fact Mayo were in the final means they have been playing better than every other county bar Kerry all season.

Offtheball10 (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 03/04/2022 20:47:32    2409379

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I think Mayo been written off and ridiculed will actually suit us. Paddy Durkan, Hennelly, Oisin Mullin, Eoghan McLoughlain and Diarmuid O Connor are all starters for me. That's a third of our team missing today. It was a terrible performance but we aren't that bad. Galway/Mayo game is a 50/50 game."
Mayo still favourites to beat Galway and third favourites for All Ireland title.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2405 - 03/04/2022 20:51:08    2409380

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "All I could do was laugh when I saw the antics of o hora today..he tried everything to get on Clifford's nerves,even staring into his eyes and mouthing,still DC scored I think 1-4 or 5..Clifford well able to look after himself.."
That's what made it so embarrassing,
He was already being schooled at that stage , then he went all out with those nonsensical shenanigans like as if he knew he was on tv and Clifford decided to smoke us for it..

Vish (USA) - Posts: 94 - 03/04/2022 20:53:09    2409381

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Mayo management should have taken o hora off Clifford at half time. I dont think Mayo were too bothered about today. Nice to see Cillian O Connor back after his long lay off

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 668 - 03/04/2022 20:57:33    2409385

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I think Mayo been written off and ridiculed will actually suit us. Paddy Durkan, Hennelly, Oisin Mullin, Eoghan McLoughlain and Diarmuid O Connor are all starters for me. That's a third of our team missing today. It was a terrible performance but we aren't that bad. Galway/Mayo game is a 50/50 game."
It's true. Brendan Harrison is another but that poor lad won't make it. Will Tommy Conroy? Another starter for sure. Mayo have done really well in the league; today aside.

You'll get two very, very tough games against Galway and Roscommon. I would hedge that You'll just about get over them (and could easily fall at either hurdle). If so, and with the learnings from today, you could be in a very good place in early June to make a charge for Sam .

You'll be judged on your performances from date forward.

The same goes for Kerry . Doubt Jack O'Connor is happy with the ease that they won that match. They will beat Cork and whoever they meet in the final by 20+ points or by however much they want to.

They too will be judged from June 1st onwards.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 03/04/2022 21:01:44    2409387

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Replying To yew_tree:  "I think Mayo been written off and ridiculed will actually suit us. Paddy Durkan, Hennelly, Oisin Mullin, Eoghan McLoughlain and Diarmuid O Connor are all starters for me. That's a third of our team missing today. It was a terrible performance but we aren't that bad. Galway/Mayo game is a 50/50 game."
I think you are right and trust your team and horan think the same. I didn't mention eoghan mcloughlin in a post earlier. Based on the last few years he's a definite starter too. His pace is also made for croke park. He was a named sub today. Is he injured? A half back line of durcan, mullin and mcloughlin is real quality. Diarmuid o'connor is highly effective and hard to see killian o'connor not starting against galway. Even for the frees alone until he gets full match sharp. You do seem to need a full back though or at least another marking back.

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 815 - 03/04/2022 21:03:42    2409388

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Very chastening result. Firstly, congrats to Kerry, who were several levels above us all over the pitch. We had no answer to the probing runs of Gavin White and to David Clifford's accuracy in front of the posts. Really, to make the game competitive we needed to boss midfield, but Kerry won almost all of their own kick outs, which tells its own story.

As for us, notwithstanding the injuries to key men, it is obvious that our management team has learned little from last September's defeat to Tyrone. Fast ball into our full back line once again killed us; we have no natural man markers since Chris Barrett retired. Plenty of ball-playing backs who can create overlaps and take scores, but no Francie Bellew types. Given this, we should be making sure to cover our goal and avoid one on one's with the likes of Clifford, but our management team either can't see this or don't believe we have the personnel to correct it. The refusal to address this problem will cost us again before the summer's out.

And Aiden O'Shea no longer has the legs for a full seventy minutes at this level, he should be used as an impact sub from now on. Rory Byrne in goal and James Carr were the only real bright spots from today, as well as Cillian O'Connor getting a run out.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 03/04/2022 21:11:03    2409394

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Replying To aidan64:  "Mayo management should have taken o hora off Clifford at half time. I dont think Mayo were too bothered about today. Nice to see Cillian O Connor back after his long lay off"
Who else would we get to mark him today that'd do any better?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7973 - 03/04/2022 21:12:03    2409395

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Replying To Offtheball10:  "As has been said Mayo with Hennelly, Durcan, Mullin and two fit O'Connors will be a totally different proposition to the one Kerry faced today.

Clifford is UNREAL. O'Hora did aswell as he could going 1 to 1 on him - actually one a few 50/50s which is extremely rare, but Mayo and (every other team Kerry face) will have to come up with some sort of plan to reduce his impact.

I think Mayo will get another crack at Kerry later in the year. What people on here seem to be forgetting is that the fact Mayo were in the final means they have been playing better than every other county bar Kerry all season."
I agree on o'hora. Clifford is a different class and in fairness to ohora a forward of lesser calibre than clifford would take to corner back to the cleaners if they are left one v one at the back. Mccarron took Fitzsimmons to the cleaners last week because he was one v one and got space.

Give clifford even close to one v one and nobody is going to mark him. He's also very unique in that he's so big and strong for a corner forward. The backs are all small beside him. Has there ever been anyone even close to being like him‽

Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 815 - 03/04/2022 21:23:52    2409398

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Who else would we get to mark him today that'd do any better?"
You cut out/minimise the supply chain, ie, stop the opposition before they hurt you..
but Horan cant be bothered with that sorta carry on..

Vish (USA) - Posts: 94 - 03/04/2022 21:27:12    2409400

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Who else would we get to mark him today that'd do any better?"
Nobody can take him one-on-one, which is why you need to employ a sweeper and to avoid giving him lots of space in front of your goal. Horan's refusal to learn from previous defeats/ goals conceded in big games/ put a sweeper system in place will see similar outcomes against the other top teams.

I do think that Brendan Harrison was the most commanding full back we had since Kevin Cahill, which makes it unfortunate that he has been so dogged by injury in the last three years.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 03/04/2022 21:28:44    2409401

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Replying To Ulsterchamps_32:  "I agree on o'hora. Clifford is a different class and in fairness to ohora a forward of lesser calibre than clifford would take to corner back to the cleaners if they are left one v one at the back. Mccarron took Fitzsimmons to the cleaners last week because he was one v one and got space.

Give clifford even close to one v one and nobody is going to mark him. He's also very unique in that he's so big and strong for a corner forward. The backs are all small beside him. Has there ever been anyone even close to being like him‽"
Probably matt Connor was the nearest I saw to him I terms of physique and skill Connor not as big but also u have to recognise that Clifford is playing with a better team Not saying offaly weren't bad but they weren't in kerry league.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 982 - 03/04/2022 21:54:24    2409410

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