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The Donegal/Armagh Row

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Replying To themaddog:  ""If you wanna box say you wanna box and we'll box; if you wanna play football, say you wanna play football and we'll play football."

It's not clear what O'Neill wants to do."
The league game was always going to be lads throwing shapes winding each other up ahead of real thing in championship. Had zero interest in watching what went on. Let the sides do their talking on the field now should be a cracker. Still fancy Donegal to come through it think they were holding back in the league and are not far off on their day provided everyone stays fit although don't think their defence is what it used to be. Armaghs defence is their weak link so could be a high scoring game. Watching Michael Murphy take the field is always great to see a giant of the sport can't be many more seasons left he will feel hard done by the way last year ended up for him.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1850 - 12/04/2022 12:02:11    2410643

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He probably got off on some type of technicality seeing he wasn't in the referee's report but I am only guessing.However it would be good to see both teams as near full strength as possible.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1126 - 12/04/2022 12:15:22    2410647

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Replying To seanie08:  "The league game was always going to be lads throwing shapes winding each other up ahead of real thing in championship. Had zero interest in watching what went on. Let the sides do their talking on the field now should be a cracker. Still fancy Donegal to come through it think they were holding back in the league and are not far off on their day provided everyone stays fit although don't think their defence is what it used to be. Armaghs defence is their weak link so could be a high scoring game. Watching Michael Murphy take the field is always great to see a giant of the sport can't be many more seasons left he will feel hard done by the way last year ended up for him."
I agree. We have a formidable record at MacCumhaill Park and I think if we can get all of our best players on the pitch (something that wasn't possible at any stage during the league) then we should still have enough to defeat an improving Armagh side.

Armagh caused us a lot of pain in the 00's so it will be nice if we can maintain or more recent good record against them.
It won't be easy though. They will come to Ballybofey confident that they can turn us over. Questions have been asked of our bottle in recent years too. No better opportunity for this group of players to answer their critics and settle a few scores. MacCumhaill Park will be a cauldron!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9531 - 12/04/2022 13:20:23    2410657

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I agree. We have a formidable record at MacCumhaill Park and I think if we can get all of our best players on the pitch (something that wasn't possible at any stage during the league) then we should still have enough to defeat an improving Armagh side.

Armagh caused us a lot of pain in the 00's so it will be nice if we can maintain or more recent good record against them.
It won't be easy though. They will come to Ballybofey confident that they can turn us over. Questions have been asked of our bottle in recent years too. No better opportunity for this group of players to answer their critics and settle a few scores. MacCumhaill Park will be a cauldron!"
Hopefully we'll get a huge crowd behind us, there's one thing for sure Armagh will come in big numbers. It's time our supporters come out and get behind the team, it could be the winning of the game.. I'm damn sure the lads are putting in a huge effort. They should lack no motivation especially after what happened in o donnell park.. funny I sat beside a few Armagh fans in letterkenny and after his row with Mc Cole they were saying he has a history of this, obviously they weren't from crossmaglen. Rian o neill I mean.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2575 - 12/04/2022 14:03:20    2410674

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Laughable. Just Laughable. The GAA disciplinary process is a complete farce. Consistency & transparency are totally alien concepts to them.

Anyway. Time to draw a line under it now & just concentrate on the game. Better teams than Armagh have left MacCumhaill Park sore & disappointed over the last number of years. Time to do the talking on the pitch."
Wouldn't be too worried about Armagh, with or without O'Neill. Came fast out of the blocks for league and thought they were somebody. Looking forward to seeing them going back over the Blackwater bruised and beat.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2170 - 12/04/2022 14:47:44    2410693

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Replying To seanie08:  "The league game was always going to be lads throwing shapes winding each other up ahead of real thing in championship. Had zero interest in watching what went on. Let the sides do their talking on the field now should be a cracker. Still fancy Donegal to come through it think they were holding back in the league and are not far off on their day provided everyone stays fit although don't think their defence is what it used to be. Armaghs defence is their weak link so could be a high scoring game. Watching Michael Murphy take the field is always great to see a giant of the sport can't be many more seasons left he will feel hard done by the way last year ended up for him."
The big problem for Donegal in the 2022 league was the number of players out injured or returning from Injury and not fit. From our Championship starting team, the following were injured or just back from injury this league
Michael Murphy, Jamie Brennan, Oisin Gallen, Michael Langan, Ciaran Thompson, Niall O'Donnell, Caolan McGonigle, Hugh McFadden, Stephen McMenamin and Neil McGee.

The League Sunday pundits tore into us regularly, which I thought it was a bit unfair, as fielding so many new and inexperienced players usually sees inconsistent performances. If we can get the core of the team back and fully fit, we have a good chance. But Ulster is a minefield this year, the likes of Tyrone, Monaghan, Armagh, Derry, Cavan etc are all dangerous teams and can scalp the others on any given day.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1216 - 12/04/2022 17:32:45    2410727

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Wouldn't be too worried about Armagh, with or without O'Neill. Came fast out of the blocks for league and thought they were somebody. Looking forward to seeing them going back over the Blackwater bruised and beat."
Tyrone Armagh rivalry must be raw when you're wanting Donegal to win : D

But tend to agree, I think we will beat them regardless. Saying that they are a coming team, full of talent but I feel we are further down the road and it's time we started to deliver now come what may. Donegal are running out of road in terms of delivering on potential.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1388 - 12/04/2022 18:56:09    2410736

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Not sure how he got off but there must be something seriously wrong with the banning process / paperwork if players can get off so easily afterwards - needs fixed.
Makes the game a little more interesting now but I still think it'll be too much for Armagh on this occasion and I expect Donegal to be well fired up for this one.

ardmhacha (Armagh) - Posts: 172 - 12/04/2022 19:42:55    2410744

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Tyrone Armagh rivalry must be raw when you're wanting Donegal to win : D

But tend to agree, I think we will beat them regardless. Saying that they are a coming team, full of talent but I feel we are further down the road and it's time we started to deliver now come what may. Donegal are running out of road in terms of delivering on potential."
Don't know why, might be the orange bit.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2170 - 13/04/2022 13:59:44    2410838

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Wouldn't be too worried about Armagh, with or without O'Neill. Came fast out of the blocks for league and thought they were somebody. Looking forward to seeing them going back over the Blackwater bruised and beat."
Took the words out of my mouth

monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 398 - 13/04/2022 14:59:44    2410853

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So the Armagh players are cleared to play Donegal. As Donegal dident appeal they're now 2 players down. What an unfair system. Also I would bet my last €1 that Conor Mc Kenna Tyrone won't be cleared as there's definitely a vendetta against Tyrone.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 905 - 19/04/2022 21:31:29    2411671

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Good to see the lads get the suspensions squashed, going to be a real interesting game on Sunday now. i See Donegal still without the 2 players as they didnt appeal it

TopOfTheSquare (Armagh) - Posts: 2 - 19/04/2022 21:57:10    2411673

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Absolute chaos In 3... 2... 1...

ardmhacha (Armagh) - Posts: 172 - 20/04/2022 07:44:23    2411682

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Absolute disgrace Armagh winning the appeals

Fkd12 (Louth) - Posts: 178 - 20/04/2022 09:41:34    2411688

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Replying To naomh_conaill_4:  "So with the news now Donegal won't appeal and if we take it that there is no more suspensions from this my question is.

What if Armagh now appeal and when their cases have all three players playing will that mean then that Donegal will be down two players to none from Armagh?

Might I add that I don't see this happening and I believe we do deserve two players banned I just think it should be Lynch instead of McGee."
Unfortunately my statement has come through. Donegal should try shoehorn an appeal in before Sunday but I don't see this happening. You do wonder what need there will be for suspensions moving forward if they can so easily get over turned.

naomh_conaill_4 (Donegal) - Posts: 499 - 20/04/2022 09:52:40    2411695

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I've been a GAA fan all my life and this is unbelievable. Unfortunately my kids are looking forward to the game otherwise I'd be selling my ticket.
To hell with the GAA after this decision.
Armaghs big tactic all wk poor us poor Armagh stop picking on us we are from the six counties **** (tissue). Former players saying Donegal started it etc etc all a ploy.
I for one will get great satisfaction if Donegal win this come Sunday so justice can be served!

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 168 - 20/04/2022 09:53:34    2411696

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Where is there any sense in all of this??

Absolute shambles on the GAA's behalf. Do not mind the 3 players getting off but let the 2 Donegal players off too. Be fair about it all. I can understand these 5 getting off as really and truly it was all a scuffle and probably none of them threw a punch. But to let O'Neill off with what he done is a farce. Also any Donegal player which may have struck an opponent should also see suspension (from video footage).

Referee's and officials can not watch 30 plus lads all in a melee at once and be able to put names and numbers beside each person involved so video evidence should be used to be fair. Let's take some of the blame away from officials here they're trying their best. But when they make decisions and then the hierarchy overturns them it makes little of their decisions. Officials may not of saw O'Neill strike the Donegal player but the video doesn't lie so why can't both be combined to put the report in place before handing out suspensions??

Feel for Donegal as they put their hands up and accepted their players were in the wrong but it look's like they should of appealed as they would of succeeded no doubt. Really hoping for a Donegal win here now as they will be defeating not only Armagh but the whole system. Looking forward to a good high tempo game which more than likely will have plenty of cards on display.

Conor McKenna should get off with his red card from the weekend if this is how the GAA are handling it. If anything is to be taken from this is that every red card should be appealed and more than likely will get off. GAA need a long look at how they handle these situations.

countymonaghan (Monaghan) - Posts: 288 - 20/04/2022 09:59:24    2411700

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Replying To Fkd12:  "Absolute disgrace Armagh winning the appeals"
Can you share the grounds on which the appeals were granted?

ardmhacha (Armagh) - Posts: 172 - 20/04/2022 10:19:08    2411706

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The gaa have to come out and explain why the players got off. If not Sundays game could end in another free for all the it's time the gaa came out wudnt like to be a referee now.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2575 - 20/04/2022 10:25:43    2411713

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Replying To ardmhacha:  "Can you share the grounds on which the appeals were granted?"
Most likely due to rising tides from Armagh tears...

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 168 - 20/04/2022 10:32:28    2411718

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