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Not sure how O'Neill gets out of that one but anyway, time to draw a line in the sand now on the matter, at least for a few weeks! The decision is made, unlikely to change. Will be interesting to see how both teams adapt to the loss of personnel. Maybe Paul Brennan for McFadden Ferry, couldn't see McGee starting anyway. On the face of it, the bans affect Armagh more because they have 3 players who were likely starters out now. I'm sure it'll stir them up for the game ahead.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1388 - 30/03/2022 17:50:38    2408474

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Replying To Al_Maguire:  "Tinker Taylor

Or

Soldier Spy?

You chose this topic to make your ever post ;-)???

Didn't think a neutral would be so interested that they'd go out of their way to make their first post one that sounds like Rian O'Neill was innocently targeted. He could have very easily steered clear ;-)

Yours, not hiding what I'm county I'm from

Al"
Armagh have definitely come off worse facing into the championship clash. They are 3 big players for them. McGee probably wouldn't have even started for Donegal.

Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 972 - 30/03/2022 18:30:05    2408486

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No suprise the two Donegal players are from ther same Club, nothing changes .

jacktheboy (Donegal) - Posts: 450 - 30/03/2022 18:50:23    2408492

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Bans issued and definitely more detrimental to Armagh with only 1 starter and an OAP sub potentially missing out for Donegal. Disappointed that our lads fell into the trap on Sunday but they'll learn. Should be good battle in a couple of weeks.

ardmhacha (Armagh) - Posts: 172 - 30/03/2022 19:04:44    2408494

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Unbiased or not, at least they are honest about where they are from.

Why are you not? Are you embarrassed that Armagh were the common denominator in two melees in the space of two months?"
Or maybe happy to see they won't back down from a challenge. The row is over. Disciplinary action to be taken. Move on.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7704 - 30/03/2022 19:45:57    2408504

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Replying To Tinkertaylor:  "In fairness, I asked you to post a link, and you obliged.

If that's the total footage around which you based your decision, from both sides, you wouldn't want to get the job of the film regulator. I've seen more violence outside Lidl on a Thursday morning.

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 719 - 30/03/2022 19:47:44    2408505

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Replying To Al_Maguire:  "Tinker Taylor

Or

Soldier Spy?

You chose this topic to make your ever post ;-)???

Didn't think a neutral would be so interested that they'd go out of their way to make their first post one that sounds like Rian O'Neill was innocently targeted. He could have very easily steered clear ;-)

Yours, not hiding what I'm county I'm from

Al"
Pretending to be from other counties to post muck on hoganstand? stamping on a man when he's on the ground?that's the behaviour you can expect from Armagh men these days.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3064 - 30/03/2022 20:27:18    2408510

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I thought that suspensions incurred in league didn't carryover to championship, but rather to next year's league games?

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 31/03/2022 09:02:11    2408529

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In any of these types of scenarios no side is innocent. Both teams were culpable and some suspensions were inevitable. I hope the whole thing doesn't turn into a circus now with appeals to the DRA, the CCCCCCCCCCC, the Court of Human Rights, bla bla bla.

But one thing I will say is this and people can accuse me of bias all they want. But the footage clearly shows Rian O'Neill clocking one of the Donegal lads. Now there very likely was provocation. But if the authorities aren't calling that out and punishing it accordingly then I'm sorry - their whole process is a joke. I mean if Michael Murphy went around decking lads every time he was provoked before, during and sometimes even after matches then Eddie Hearn would be on the phone to him.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9530 - 31/03/2022 10:09:06    2408560

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Northie - such a cheesy word. Nearly embarrassed for you using it. Great contribution too btw.."
Why embarrassed? How would you describe it?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 743 - 31/03/2022 10:21:58    2408565

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Think some of our posters need to not take things so serious, it was a nonsense row and the stamp on Michael is nasty but it's not inherent to Armagh or Armagh people. I always enjoy the craic with Armagh fans even the years where we just couldn't beat them and when we got that championship win in Ballybofey with Cass's last minute goal I remember them being as gracious and wishing us well. So I don't like this chat of "typical of Armagh men" and all the rest. It's not Tyrone we're talking about like ;-) (only joking before any Tyrone folks come after me!)

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 31/03/2022 10:33:27    2408569

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Pretending to be from other counties to post muck on hoganstand? stamping on a man when he's on the ground?that's the behaviour you can expect from Armagh men these days."
Does someone need a hug?

sean og (Armagh) - Posts: 1071 - 31/03/2022 11:23:08    2408590

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Northies being Northies."
In fairness it wasn't great to see, but from a Donegal point of view, our lads stood their ground and we weren't bullied. Wexford can't say that after their abysmal showing on Sunday when your crowd went hiding against Waterford, and what about the cowardly act of a player throwing a hurl at goalkeeper.

Ulsterchamps72 (Donegal) - Posts: 100 - 31/03/2022 11:28:29    2408593

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Replying To sean og:  "Does someone need a hug?"
Donegal men definitely do not need any more 'hugs' from Armagh men

Hopefully everyone sticks to the football in 4 weeks.

Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 257 - 31/03/2022 11:31:20    2408594

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "In any of these types of scenarios no side is innocent. Both teams were culpable and some suspensions were inevitable. I hope the whole thing doesn't turn into a circus now with appeals to the DRA, the CCCCCCCCCCC, the Court of Human Rights, bla bla bla.

But one thing I will say is this and people can accuse me of bias all they want. But the footage clearly shows Rian O'Neill clocking one of the Donegal lads. Now there very likely was provocation. But if the authorities aren't calling that out and punishing it accordingly then I'm sorry - their whole process is a joke. I mean if Michael Murphy went around decking lads every time he was provoked before, during and sometimes even after matches then Eddie Hearn would be on the phone to him."
Anyone got the link for the mutual discussion rather than reading this Donegal forum?? Looks like Donegal set it up to try and get armagh men suspended for the championship!! Sounds like they fear armagh

Neilmcdonald (Armagh) - Posts: 5 - 31/03/2022 11:31:40    2408595

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "In any of these types of scenarios no side is innocent. Both teams were culpable and some suspensions were inevitable. I hope the whole thing doesn't turn into a circus now with appeals to the DRA, the CCCCCCCCCCC, the Court of Human Rights, bla bla bla.

But one thing I will say is this and people can accuse me of bias all they want. But the footage clearly shows Rian O'Neill clocking one of the Donegal lads. Now there very likely was provocation. But if the authorities aren't calling that out and punishing it accordingly then I'm sorry - their whole process is a joke. I mean if Michael Murphy went around decking lads every time he was provoked before, during and sometimes even after matches then Eddie Hearn would be on the phone to him."
Hi lockjaw, I think you missed a C in the middle

AudiMan (Donegal) - Posts: 676 - 31/03/2022 11:35:11    2408597

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Replying To Neilmcdonald:  "Anyone got the link for the mutual discussion rather than reading this Donegal forum?? Looks like Donegal set it up to try and get armagh men suspended for the championship!! Sounds like they fear armagh"
I doubt a Hoganstand forum would get anyone suspended now. It's done and dusted now, looking forward to the game in 3/4 weeks, should be an exciting one.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1388 - 31/03/2022 11:42:43    2408602

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Why embarrassed? How would you describe it?"
I'd describe your contribution as using cringeworthy terminology, lazy stereotypes and minimal actual dissection of the incident being discussed.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1388 - 31/03/2022 11:45:09    2408603

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Replying To Neilmcdonald:  "Anyone got the link for the mutual discussion rather than reading this Donegal forum?? Looks like Donegal set it up to try and get armagh men suspended for the championship!! Sounds like they fear armagh"
ehmmmm - Donegal have 2 players suspended

I think if you're looking for blame for people 'trying to get people suspended' maybe

1. Start with the players themselves
2. Talk to RTE and their panel League Sunday who only talked about it being 'more than a scuffle and players should be suspended' in their post 'match' analysis, and ignored the match altogether.
3. Take it up with the Tyrone man who started the thread that rightfully wanted to see consistency applied as his team bore the brunt on suspension in the last shemozzle that Armagh were involved in.

But maybe you're right. We are so afraid of Armagh we have jumped on a post started by a Tyrone man that has no bearing whatsoever on the CCCs decision to grant suspensions

If this thread made any difference, there'd be different players suspended on both sides for the start

Carry on with your paranoia though instead of accepting responsibility for actions.

Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 257 - 31/03/2022 11:47:35    2408605

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Replying To Neilmcdonald:  "Anyone got the link for the mutual discussion rather than reading this Donegal forum?? Looks like Donegal set it up to try and get armagh men suspended for the championship!! Sounds like they fear armagh"
This is not a Donegal forum. We don't have one it's open to any county. Never seen as many first posts in one week.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2571 - 31/03/2022 11:53:24    2408606

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