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Replying To MurphBalls:  "Take what you will from it but I'm trying to be as unbiased as possible here - Most of us can only go by what we seen in the video footage. Other fans were at the game and seem to have some more to the story but personally from what I saw from the video footage does not look good from an Armagh point of view. I agree with you that it takes two to tango but I don't think you can argue that it looks worse for Armagh than it does Donegal. Again, I wasn't at the game so I can only speak for what I saw on the video.

Armagh is being slated because this is the second time in a matter of weeks that they've had a "scuffle" of this magnitude and I know I keep reiterating but if they are judging the suspensions off of CCCC video footage then Armagh should come off a hell of a lot worse than Donegal. What happens during the game is all gamesmanship but what happens after the game is nonsense and sometimes thuggery."
You are by far from unbiased.

I have seen the video footage and it doesn't look good for either team.

Your number 7 punched an Armagh player. Your number 10 shoved an Armagh player to the ground from behind and put him in a headlock.

I don't know the name of the Armagh player but he seems to have struck or at least attempted to strike the player who was headbutted O'Neill.

A number of your players went out of their way to have a go at Rian O'Neill. One of your players even tried headbutting him. What O'Neill done certainly wasn't pleasant.

Just because Armagh were involved in a melee a few weeks ago it does not mean they started this one. Going by the videos on social media they certainly did not start the one against Tyrone.

However, I do have some questions. Why was O'Neill approached numerous times by Donegal players?

Why were Donegal players not wearing numbers on their bibs, in fact their numbers on their shirts were covered.

It is unfair to single out one county and let's face it there are discrepancies between posts from each Donegal fan who 'claimed' to have seen it.

Tinkertaylor (Cork) - Posts: 3 - 30/03/2022 14:43:49    2408385

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Replying To Tinkertaylor:  "You are by far from unbiased.

I have seen the video footage and it doesn't look good for either team.

Your number 7 punched an Armagh player. Your number 10 shoved an Armagh player to the ground from behind and put him in a headlock.

I don't know the name of the Armagh player but he seems to have struck or at least attempted to strike the player who was headbutted O'Neill.

A number of your players went out of their way to have a go at Rian O'Neill. One of your players even tried headbutting him. What O'Neill done certainly wasn't pleasant.

Just because Armagh were involved in a melee a few weeks ago it does not mean they started this one. Going by the videos on social media they certainly did not start the one against Tyrone.

However, I do have some questions. Why was O'Neill approached numerous times by Donegal players?

Why were Donegal players not wearing numbers on their bibs, in fact their numbers on their shirts were covered.

It is unfair to single out one county and let's face it there are discrepancies between posts from each Donegal fan who 'claimed' to have seen it."
Funny on your first post. You blame Donegal. An Armagh supporter no doubt. Cork yea

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1721 - 30/03/2022 15:01:25    2408392

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Replying To Tinkertaylor:  "You are by far from unbiased.

I have seen the video footage and it doesn't look good for either team.

Your number 7 punched an Armagh player. Your number 10 shoved an Armagh player to the ground from behind and put him in a headlock.

I don't know the name of the Armagh player but he seems to have struck or at least attempted to strike the player who was headbutted O'Neill.

A number of your players went out of their way to have a go at Rian O'Neill. One of your players even tried headbutting him. What O'Neill done certainly wasn't pleasant.

Just because Armagh were involved in a melee a few weeks ago it does not mean they started this one. Going by the videos on social media they certainly did not start the one against Tyrone.

However, I do have some questions. Why was O'Neill approached numerous times by Donegal players?

Why were Donegal players not wearing numbers on their bibs, in fact their numbers on their shirts were covered.

It is unfair to single out one county and let's face it there are discrepancies between posts from each Donegal fan who 'claimed' to have seen it."
Are you an Armagh man living in Cork or pretending to be from Cork?

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 999 - 30/03/2022 15:08:04    2408398

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Replying To Tinkertaylor:  "You are by far from unbiased.

I have seen the video footage and it doesn't look good for either team.

Your number 7 punched an Armagh player. Your number 10 shoved an Armagh player to the ground from behind and put him in a headlock.

I don't know the name of the Armagh player but he seems to have struck or at least attempted to strike the player who was headbutted O'Neill.

A number of your players went out of their way to have a go at Rian O'Neill. One of your players even tried headbutting him. What O'Neill done certainly wasn't pleasant.

Just because Armagh were involved in a melee a few weeks ago it does not mean they started this one. Going by the videos on social media they certainly did not start the one against Tyrone.

However, I do have some questions. Why was O'Neill approached numerous times by Donegal players?

Why were Donegal players not wearing numbers on their bibs, in fact their numbers on their shirts were covered.

It is unfair to single out one county and let's face it there are discrepancies between posts from each Donegal fan who 'claimed' to have seen it."
I would very much appreciate if you could post a link to that footage. I have searched, and can't find it. I don't dispute your account of events, but would like to see it. Is it mobile phone footage?

When you say that a number of Donegal players went out of their way to speak with Rian O'Neil, was this before or after he had struck a punch to a Donegal player?

Why are Donegal players not wearing numbers on their bibs? I have never seen any player wearing his squad number on a bib.

SouthOfTheGap (Donegal) - Posts: 279 - 30/03/2022 15:14:04    2408400

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Replying To Tinkertaylor:  "You are by far from unbiased.

I have seen the video footage and it doesn't look good for either team.

Your number 7 punched an Armagh player. Your number 10 shoved an Armagh player to the ground from behind and put him in a headlock.

I don't know the name of the Armagh player but he seems to have struck or at least attempted to strike the player who was headbutted O'Neill.

A number of your players went out of their way to have a go at Rian O'Neill. One of your players even tried headbutting him. What O'Neill done certainly wasn't pleasant.

Just because Armagh were involved in a melee a few weeks ago it does not mean they started this one. Going by the videos on social media they certainly did not start the one against Tyrone.

However, I do have some questions. Why was O'Neill approached numerous times by Donegal players?

Why were Donegal players not wearing numbers on their bibs, in fact their numbers on their shirts were covered.

It is unfair to single out one county and let's face it there are discrepancies between posts from each Donegal fan who 'claimed' to have seen it."
Ah jaysus you boys down in Cork are to used to ole prancing around! Might be one of the reasons why ye were in a relegation scrap with the might Offaly at the weekend. Banter before you hit the roof :)

First of, there is a difference between punching and shoving which no.7 did. I would hardly call that a punch. I didn't once see no.10 putting anyone in a headlock. From what I seen he was getting a wile hammering from the Armagh players. Again, if you are describing what he done as a headlock then my sentiment in my first line really is in line with reality.

Additionally to O'Neill and Hall, there were other cases where Armagh players dragged Donegal players to the ground.

O'Neill was approached numerous times? Are you getting all of this from the Sunday Game footage or some other footage because from what I seen was O'Neill comes out of nowhere and clocks No. 10 on the back of the head. He's then involved in another melee but what do you expect the Donegal players to do? Sit back and watch O'Neill punch them over the head?

Look, I wasn't at the match so all I can comment on was what I saw on the Sunday Game footage, which, I assume, you seen different footage to me with all your above claims. Can you link them to me so I can have a watch again?

But, to repeat, the TV footage looks a lot worse for Armagh than Donegal as you can clearly see the start of it all at the beginning of the footage where McFadden Ferry was scuffling with his man and then another Armagh player intervenes before about 5 or 6 Armagh players from the sideline intervened.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 175 - 30/03/2022 15:14:57    2408403

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Replying To Tinkertaylor:  "You are by far from unbiased.

I have seen the video footage and it doesn't look good for either team.

Your number 7 punched an Armagh player. Your number 10 shoved an Armagh player to the ground from behind and put him in a headlock.

I don't know the name of the Armagh player but he seems to have struck or at least attempted to strike the player who was headbutted O'Neill.

A number of your players went out of their way to have a go at Rian O'Neill. One of your players even tried headbutting him. What O'Neill done certainly wasn't pleasant.

Just because Armagh were involved in a melee a few weeks ago it does not mean they started this one. Going by the videos on social media they certainly did not start the one against Tyrone.

However, I do have some questions. Why was O'Neill approached numerous times by Donegal players?

Why were Donegal players not wearing numbers on their bibs, in fact their numbers on their shirts were covered.

It is unfair to single out one county and let's face it there are discrepancies between posts from each Donegal fan who 'claimed' to have seen it."
Headbutting??? Man what footage are you watching? Are you sure you watched the footage of Armagh and Donegal?

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 175 - 30/03/2022 15:20:28    2408404

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Replying To Tinkertaylor:  "You are by far from unbiased.

I have seen the video footage and it doesn't look good for either team.

Your number 7 punched an Armagh player. Your number 10 shoved an Armagh player to the ground from behind and put him in a headlock.

I don't know the name of the Armagh player but he seems to have struck or at least attempted to strike the player who was headbutted O'Neill.

A number of your players went out of their way to have a go at Rian O'Neill. One of your players even tried headbutting him. What O'Neill done certainly wasn't pleasant.

Just because Armagh were involved in a melee a few weeks ago it does not mean they started this one. Going by the videos on social media they certainly did not start the one against Tyrone.

However, I do have some questions. Why was O'Neill approached numerous times by Donegal players?

Why were Donegal players not wearing numbers on their bibs, in fact their numbers on their shirts were covered.

It is unfair to single out one county and let's face it there are discrepancies between posts from each Donegal fan who 'claimed' to have seen it."
Tinker Taylor

Or

Soldier Spy?

You chose this topic to make your ever post ;-)???

Didn't think a neutral would be so interested that they'd go out of their way to make their first post one that sounds like Rian O'Neill was innocently targeted. He could have very easily steered clear ;-)

Yours, not hiding what I'm county I'm from

Al

Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 215 - 30/03/2022 15:23:13    2408405

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It's announced now anyway

Odhran McFF and Neil McGee - Donegal

Mackin, Nugent, Stefan Campbell - Armagh

Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 215 - 30/03/2022 15:26:08    2408407

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In the footage I have seen that I can't link here I'm afraid, there is clear evidence of Donegal players going after one Armagh lad and tickling him even tough he was shouting that he was insanely ticklish. It was horrible behaviour and brought shame on the county jersey - luckily they were all wearing bibs, without numbers no less

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 30/03/2022 15:38:02    2408412

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Replying To JoeSoap:  "In the footage I have seen that I can't link here I'm afraid, there is clear evidence of Donegal players going after one Armagh lad and tickling him even tough he was shouting that he was insanely ticklish. It was horrible behaviour and brought shame on the county jersey - luckily they were all wearing bibs, without numbers no less"
That must have been the footage Tinker Taylor was referring to. That's why they were approaching O'Neill as his weakness is a low tolerance to tickling. Smart move but a stupid move but one that was a genius move.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 175 - 30/03/2022 15:44:49    2408416

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Replying To Al_Maguire:  "It's announced now anyway

Odhran McFF and Neil McGee - Donegal

Mackin, Nugent, Stefan Campbell - Armagh"
This doesn't seem to match what we were seeing on video, this must be based on what the officials witnessed and not on video evidence. I was sure that Michael Lynch (Donegal) and Rian O'Neill (Armagh) would be receiving bans, kinda surprised neither even made the list of bans.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 872 - 30/03/2022 15:50:50    2408420

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "Headbutting??? Man what footage are you watching? Are you sure you watched the footage of Armagh and Donegal?"
[url=]https://streamable.com/9t9g53

Tinkertaylor (Cork) - Posts: 3 - 30/03/2022 15:50:55    2408421

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "You'd be experts at 'stamping things out' about Armagh alright, this behaviour is typical of a McGeeeny Armagh team,"
Northies being Northies.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 262 - 30/03/2022 16:01:18    2408431

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Replying To Al_Maguire:  "Tinker Taylor

Or

Soldier Spy?

You chose this topic to make your ever post ;-)???

Didn't think a neutral would be so interested that they'd go out of their way to make their first post one that sounds like Rian O'Neill was innocently targeted. He could have very easily steered clear ;-)

Yours, not hiding what I'm county I'm from

Al"
The accusations against Armagh are fair but it is hardly unbiased from Donegal posters is it?

Tinkertaylor (Cork) - Posts: 3 - 30/03/2022 16:02:25    2408432

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Replying To Commodore:  "This doesn't seem to match what we were seeing on video, this must be based on what the officials witnessed and not on video evidence. I was sure that Michael Lynch (Donegal) and Rian O'Neill (Armagh) would be receiving bans, kinda surprised neither even made the list of bans."
https://www.donegallive.ie/news/gaa/778505/five-donegal-and-armagh-players-reportedly-hit-with-bans-following-melee.html

Not confirmed but on Donegal Live

Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 215 - 30/03/2022 16:11:13    2408435

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Replying To Tinkertaylor:  "The accusations against Armagh are fair but it is hardly unbiased from Donegal posters is it?"
Unbiased or not, at least they are honest about where they are from.

Why are you not? Are you embarrassed that Armagh were the common denominator in two melees in the space of two months?

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 337 - 30/03/2022 16:14:19    2408439

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Replying To Tinkertaylor:  "The accusations against Armagh are fair but it is hardly unbiased from Donegal posters is it?"
We're you at the game. Or are you going by the Sunday league footage

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 1721 - 30/03/2022 16:15:46    2408440

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Replying To peiledoir20:  "Unbiased or not, at least they are honest about where they are from.

Why are you not? Are you embarrassed that Armagh were the common denominator in two melees in the space of two months?"
The shock. Imagine

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 262 - 30/03/2022 16:49:46    2408455

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Northies being Northies."
Wexford being irrelevant

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 398 - 30/03/2022 17:19:59    2408469

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Replying To countyman2022:  "Northies being Northies."
Northie - such a cheesy word. Nearly embarrassed for you using it. Great contribution too btw..

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1153 - 30/03/2022 17:45:18    2408473

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