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Media Coverage For 2nd Tier Teams

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On the subject of media and RTE, watched full recorded match between Tyrone v Mayo today, disgrace panel couldn't keep their mouths shut during our National Anthem.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2013 - 20/03/2022 21:36:12    2406059

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The GAA need to think seriously about how they are going to let out media packages in future.

No reason why RTE, Virgin, TV3, Sky and TG4 can't all have 1 senior hurling and 1 tailteann up or 1 Sam maguire and 1 joe McDonagh/Christy ring cup match per weekend to show.

That's 5 senior and 5 Lower tier live matches per weekend. Starting at 7:00pm Friday night through to 7:00pm Sunday.

Eg
Friday
7:00pm : local derby senior championship match on TG4
Saturday :
13:00pm: Tailteann Cup match on Sky
15:00pm: Joe Mc donagh match on TG4
17:00pm: Senior hurling championship on RTE 1
19:00pm : Senior football championship on Sky
21:00pm : senior hurling/football match from Croke park

Sunday:
13:00pm: Joe McDonagh Cup on RTE
15:00pm: Tailteann Cup on Virgin
17:00pm: Senior hurling on Virgin
19:00pm: Senior football (local Derby) on TV3

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 21/03/2022 18:08:30    2406307

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Firstly, TV3 and Virgin are the same thing. TV3 rebranded as Virgin three or four years ago. They're not separate organisations.

Secondly, you won't always have local derby matches for 7 p.m. Fridays & Sundays.

Thirdly, I think that most would feel that 9 p.m. on a Saturday night is too late to be starting a match in Croke Park. It would rule out bringing many younger children, and unless it was the likes of Louth/Meath/Kildare involved, supporters wouldn't be getting home until God only knows what crazy time in the early hours of Sunday morning.

Fourthly, you're assuming that all these broadcasters have the resources, desire and ability to show all these matches every weekend. Don't forget that TG4, for example, are also committed to showing camogie and ladies football. Don't forget either that many people have little or no interest in gaelic games, so there'd likely be significant pushback against that level of coverage, particularly if you're working in a highlights programme or two as well.

Personally I'd love to see wall-to-wall coverage of hurling and football, but I'm realistic enough to know how unlikely it is.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2247 - 22/03/2022 15:28:04    2406516

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I suppose RTE will be showing a lot of live div2 games next season now that Dublin are relegated.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 27/03/2022 21:17:20    2407572

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Last nights coverage of division 3 was embarrassing. My own county tops the table but gets no mention because "we mentioned Louth last week". Wouldn't the most basic of production meetings lead to the conclusion that we at least give the team a mention for 30 seconds.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 28/03/2022 09:21:04    2407623

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I suppose RTE will be showing a lot of live div2 games next season now that Dublin are relegated."
There's always allot of interest in the Dub so I'd imagine there's a good chance they at least one of their games

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 28/03/2022 09:44:03    2407632

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When selling the TV rights the GAA should have clauses for minimum coverage of games. A magazine type program for league games in the Divisions.

Probably very expensive to expect RTE to have cameras at every ground but certain minimum set up should be required at each ground and all games should be available to stream if not being shown on TV.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 28/03/2022 10:35:20    2407656

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Having all 4 leagues finished on the same day and roughly the same time puzzles me! The league is the main competition for most Counties now. The interest levels are high. There were loads of competitive and meaningful games in all leagues and if they were concluded over 2 weekends its would have allowed more exposure.

Maybe lessons will be learned. Hats off to TG4 yesterday. As always, leading the way when it comes to GAA

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 28/03/2022 11:12:42    2407679

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Replying To Mayonman:  "When selling the TV rights the GAA should have clauses for minimum coverage of games. A magazine type program for league games in the Divisions.

Probably very expensive to expect RTE to have cameras at every ground but certain minimum set up should be required at each ground and all games should be available to stream if not being shown on TV."
Or maybe sell each division in a difference package where others can bid for different divisions

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 268 - 28/03/2022 12:30:52    2407721

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Replying To PK57:  "Last nights coverage of division 3 was embarrassing. My own county tops the table but gets no mention because "we mentioned Louth last week". Wouldn't the most basic of production meetings lead to the conclusion that we at least give the team a mention for 30 seconds."
I 100% agree with you on that, I think a lot of neutral people would have loved to see more coverage of that, particular after back to back promotions, RTE coverage is a shambles at times, none of this surprises me unfortunately.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1114 - 28/03/2022 12:32:05    2407722

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "I suppose RTE will be showing a lot of live div2 games next season now that Dublin are relegated."
You can be sure of that.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 28/03/2022 12:57:18    2407735

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The purpose of the Super 8's & the new "Super 16 format" & Tailteann cup was all about having the top teams playing each other more regularly & selling the TV Rights, attracting higher TV Revenue.
Anyone who cant see that is blind to what road the GAA have chosen, most people don't have a clue who won the Nicky Rackard cup last year for example, which is disrespectful to the great man himself, but the GAA are doing nothing to promote these competitions or teams in Divisons 2, 3 & 4. The Tailteann cup after its first honeymoon year will go the same way. The Tailteann Cup is a rehash of the Tommy Murphy cup & will see more players from these counties going travelling for the Summer when knocked out of C'ship.
The Tailteann Cup when been voted on at Congress, it was said a text was received saying that a broadcaster was interested in showing the games live, it passed the vote. Lets see how many of the games will be televised live.
The aim of having more TV Revenue & having the top teams playing each other with the others discarded means more coverage for the top teams, more sponsors flocking to them, more supporters through the turnstiles & the complete opposite for all the other counties. Those counties voted for it, it was like Turkeys voting for Christmas, so those counties better get used of 30 seconds of coverage or none at all. TV companies already starting to dictate fixture times & dates, we saw plenty of that over the last few years.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 28/03/2022 13:11:49    2407743

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Replying To Ban:  "Having all 4 leagues finished on the same day and roughly the same time puzzles me! The league is the main competition for most Counties now. The interest levels are high. There were loads of competitive and meaningful games in all leagues and if they were concluded over 2 weekends its would have allowed more exposure.

Maybe lessons will be learned. Hats off to TG4 yesterday. As always, leading the way when it comes to GAA"
On RTÉ Sat. night, Tyrone v Mayo. NFL, RTÉ ignored/ forgot the National Anthem, even though the singer could be heard, in the background. This was in Omagh, why did RTÉ show such ignorance for our Anthem?

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 28/03/2022 13:20:20    2407747

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Replying To thelongridge:  "On RTÉ Sat. night, Tyrone v Mayo. NFL, RTÉ ignored/ forgot the National Anthem, even though the singer could be heard, in the background. This was in Omagh, why did RTÉ show such ignorance for our Anthem?"
I consider myself to know quiet a bit but I'm afraid I cant answer that one :-)

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 28/03/2022 17:25:54    2407842

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The Division 3 and 4 football finals will be shown by TG4. The Division 2A hurling final is only being streamed by TG4.
If teams take the Tailteann Cup seriously, which they should do when a Top 16 place is on offer, the Tailteann Cup semi-finals and finals being broadcast live should be a decent return if that's the way it pans out.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 30/03/2022 11:34:12    2408296

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The Joe McDonagh Cup final will be live on RTÉ.
The Tailteann Cup semi-finals and final will be live on TV.
I think Tier 1B hurling and Tier 2 football are being provided with fair coverage.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 14/04/2022 10:31:46    2410944

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It's strange that TG4 aren't showing the Tailtean cup. Considering there are only 4 rounds in the competition and RTE have the semi's and finals, TG4 could have shown a few games in the competition. I'm actually surprised RTE are showing both semi finals, it at least means the competition will get some coverage but like most B competitions it will fizzle out in a few years when most teams don't buy into it.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 14/04/2022 11:10:21    2410955

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Replying To DuhallowRed:  "Or maybe sell each division in a difference package where others can bid for different divisions"
Are many people really in all honesty going to sit down and watch a Div4 game live? A few die hards maybe but they are more likely to be at the matches anyway. Oversaturation of coverage isn't a good thing either

thebronze14 (Donegal) - Posts: 41 - 14/04/2022 11:25:02    2410958

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Replying To thebronze14:  "Are many people really in all honesty going to sit down and watch a Div4 game live? A few die hards maybe but they are more likely to be at the matches anyway. Oversaturation of coverage isn't a good thing either"
Chances are they would be as entertaining as an Ulster handpass championship game

Leitrim_12 (USA) - Posts: 207 - 14/04/2022 13:35:20    2410986

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Colm Keys is reporting that the 2022 Tailteann Cup winner will indeed qualify for the Top 16 in 2023. That's a big carrot for all plotting a course through the Tailteann Cup this summer.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 14/04/2022 14:16:52    2410994

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