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Cork V Down Tailteann Cup Final?

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There's a long way to go yet and I'm sure both counties will have an improvement in results. This morning though as Cork and Down occupy the relegation places of Division 2, the 2010 All-Ireland finalists could be the inaugural Tailteann Cup finalists.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7844 - 28/02/2022 11:36:34    2402911

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Replying To legendzxix:  "There's a long way to go yet and I'm sure both counties will have an improvement in results. This morning though as Cork and Down occupy the relegation places of Division 2, the 2010 All-Ireland finalists could be the inaugural Tailteann Cup finalists."
You're giving cork a great compliment to think they'd even make it to the tailteann cup final haha

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 268 - 28/02/2022 12:44:13    2402943

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You could have Cavan and 2 of Cork/Meath/Down/Offaly taking 3 of the 4 Semi Final berths.
I don't think the competition was conceived for giants falling on bad times who will likely have no interest in it.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1419 - 28/02/2022 14:39:35    2402996

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Better chance of picking the lottery numbers than the Tailteann Cup finalists..

Teams that one would expect to reach the final will likely have high drop outs as those players will either go travelling or return to clubs than play in a competition that's doomed before its starts

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3347 - 28/02/2022 17:10:17    2403055

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Replying To legendzxix:  "There's a long way to go yet and I'm sure both counties will have an improvement in results. This morning though as Cork and Down occupy the relegation places of Division 2, the 2010 All-Ireland finalists could be the inaugural Tailteann Cup finalists."
Tbh with the form they will be bringing into it if they do end up getting relegated I'd be very surprised if either make the final at all.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 28/02/2022 18:11:31    2403082

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would love to see the 2 Meaths join together, they could dominate Tailteann

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 28/02/2022 21:02:05    2403127

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I think that's a bit presumptuous given how both are playing currently....

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 01/03/2022 09:19:16    2403142

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I think that's a bit presumptuous given how both are playing currently...."
:-D

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11849 - 01/03/2022 09:34:14    2403147

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Replying To Gaa_lover:  "Better chance of picking the lottery numbers than the Tailteann Cup finalists..

Teams that one would expect to reach the final will likely have high drop outs as those players will either go travelling or return to clubs than play in a competition that's doomed before its starts"
I'd imagine you are right. Questions how much the GPA are connected to the players!

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 01/03/2022 13:13:26    2403235

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I think the league connection should be scrapped. Just dump the bottom 16 (Tailteann Cup) in intermediate. That'll force everyone to take it dead seriously. Why one rule for clubs and another for counties?

I actually think 12 senior, 12 intermediate, 12 junior is the way to go.

And before someone asks, the extra 4 in junior are kilkenny, new york, warickshire and gloucestershire or scotland.

Two groups of 6. top to semi. 2 & 3 to quarter. 6th to relegation playoff.

That's a minimum of 5 good championship games for everyone.

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 248 - 07/03/2022 12:33:01    2404227

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The Tailtean cup like all previous B competitions will have no buy in from anyone involved and will receive next to zero promotion or media coverage yet in their wisdom the GAA have added a group stage next season. The only way a competition like this will work is If teams begin the championship in the 2nd tier and the Tailtean winner gets a route back into the championship like what happens with the Mc Donagh cup in Hurling.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 07/03/2022 17:11:10    2404334

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Replying To PK57:  "The Tailtean cup like all previous B competitions will have no buy in from anyone involved and will receive next to zero promotion or media coverage yet in their wisdom the GAA have added a group stage next season. The only way a competition like this will work is If teams begin the championship in the 2nd tier and the Tailtean winner gets a route back into the championship like what happens with the Mc Donagh cup in Hurling."
It was voted in by the Congress delegates, many of whom were representing the Counties who will be playing in it.
If they won't "buy in" why did they vote for it or why did they not campaign against it?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1419 - 07/03/2022 17:55:12    2404343

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Replying To PK57:  "The Tailtean cup like all previous B competitions will have no buy in from anyone involved and will receive next to zero promotion or media coverage yet in their wisdom the GAA have added a group stage next season. The only way a competition like this will work is If teams begin the championship in the 2nd tier and the Tailtean winner gets a route back into the championship like what happens with the Mc Donagh cup in Hurling."
If a team has failed to make the Top 16, one would think they would try and win the Tailteann Cup to ensure Top 16 football in the next year.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7844 - 07/03/2022 18:14:27    2404348

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Replying To skirge7:  "I think the league connection should be scrapped. Just dump the bottom 16 (Tailteann Cup) in intermediate. That'll force everyone to take it dead seriously. Why one rule for clubs and another for counties?

I actually think 12 senior, 12 intermediate, 12 junior is the way to go.

And before someone asks, the extra 4 in junior are kilkenny, new york, warickshire and gloucestershire or scotland.

Two groups of 6. top to semi. 2 & 3 to quarter. 6th to relegation playoff.

That's a minimum of 5 good championship games for everyone."
It's not the way to go. What is the point is replicating the League and having two tiers which will get little attention. Don't turn football into hurling.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 738 - 07/03/2022 18:22:27    2404349

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Be some craic if Limerick play in the Sam Maguire and Cork in the Tailteann.

M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 461 - 07/03/2022 18:50:29    2404353

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "It was voted in by the Congress delegates, many of whom were representing the Counties who will be playing in it.
If they won't "buy in" why did they vote for it or why did they not campaign against it?"
I think most people in weaker counties are voting for any sort of change, no matter how weak it is. B championships can only work if teams are placed into it at the end of the league and it's not a competition teams aim to avoid. Instead you have a farcical system in which the provincial system is still in place when it's gone beyond it's sell by date. Teams that are in division 3 and 4 can get a nice trimming from a division 1 side in their province before partaking in the Tailtean cup. There will be no promotion or coverage of the competition and like the Tommy Murphy Cup, it will be shelved in a few years.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1653 - 08/03/2022 18:17:01    2404527

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