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Wexford vs Tipp postponed less than ten mins before throw in today. Surely that's not acceptable. Torrential rain nationwide since Friday, Wexford Park prone to surface water, pitch inspection no later than 2 hours before throw in should be mandatory.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1488 - 20/02/2022 19:22:57    2401405

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Wexford vs Tipp postponed less than ten mins before throw in today. Surely that's not acceptable. Torrential rain nationwide since Friday, Wexford Park prone to surface water, pitch inspection no later than 2 hours before throw in should be mandatory."
Match was at 2, pitch was playable at 1.30 but couldn't cope with the downpour over the next 10 mins.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 20/02/2022 19:57:45    2401430

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Wexford vs Tipp postponed less than ten mins before throw in today. Surely that's not acceptable. Torrential rain nationwide since Friday, Wexford Park prone to surface water, pitch inspection no later than 2 hours before throw in should be mandatory."
Should you not try as much as possible to have games go ahead if possible. I was due to run the line in 2 games, double header today. They were called off about 20 minutes before 1st game when groundsmen finally accepted we wouldnt get pitch capable of hosting a match safely
pitches can change hugely in 2 hours and a pitch not ready 2 hours before a game could be fine for throw in/kick off.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3509 - 20/02/2022 20:17:03    2401440

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Wexford vs Tipp postponed less than ten mins before throw in today. Surely that's not acceptable. Torrential rain nationwide since Friday, Wexford Park prone to surface water, pitch inspection no later than 2 hours before throw in should be mandatory."
Really heavy rain for half hour before then. It had actually been not too bad before that.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11828 - 20/02/2022 20:41:25    2401445

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Wexford vs Tipp postponed less than ten mins before throw in today. Surely that's not acceptable. Torrential rain nationwide since Friday, Wexford Park prone to surface water, pitch inspection no later than 2 hours before throw in should be mandatory."
Really heavy rain for half hour before then. It had actually been not too bad before that.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11828 - 20/02/2022 20:42:34    2401446

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Wexford vs Tipp postponed less than ten mins before throw in today. Surely that's not acceptable. Torrential rain nationwide since Friday, Wexford Park prone to surface water, pitch inspection no later than 2 hours before throw in should be mandatory."
how do you know there wasnt pitch inspections done several times before just before throw in?
They were giving pitch every chance to be playable. i had a game today called off half hour before it was due to start. thats life. and to be expected when weather is the concern

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3509 - 20/02/2022 21:08:36    2401458

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Replying To KillingFields:  "how do you know there wasnt pitch inspections done several times before just before throw in?
They were giving pitch every chance to be playable. i had a game today called off half hour before it was due to start. thats life. and to be expected when weather is the concern"
Thats exactly what happened.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 20/02/2022 21:13:57    2401459

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Every field including a few club grounds was totally flooded on the way up to Hyde Park today.

No way would our game have went ahead if we still had the natural clad sod. The new pitch with the superb drainage is a great feature to have. Shame about the high winds that ruined the contest.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3753 - 20/02/2022 21:28:46    2401464

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If anyone thinks it's acceptable to call a game off nine minutes before throw in with the weather forecasts now available then I'm flabbergasted. Surely consideration needs to be given to players, supporters, stewards etc on a day when driving conditions were hazardous in the extreme. There were pitch inspections in other venues at least three hours in advance.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1488 - 21/02/2022 12:18:15    2401560

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "If anyone thinks it's acceptable to call a game off nine minutes before throw in with the weather forecasts now available then I'm flabbergasted. Surely consideration needs to be given to players, supporters, stewards etc on a day when driving conditions were hazardous in the extreme. There were pitch inspections in other venues at least three hours in advance."
Right I'll give you the context here, I'd be shocked if there wasn't earlier pitch inspections and it didn't pass these, there was 19 Junior soccer and 3 u17 football games took place yesterday in Wexford, more were postponed too, if the Wexford Tipp game was at 12 or 1 it would defiantly have gone ahead I'd imagine (at 1 it might have ended up being abandoned), there was a biblical downpour around 1.35 which did the damage, the pitch is going to be closed for 8 weeks in the summer after we play Galway and Dublin in the Leinster hurling championship so hopefully scenarios like yesterday will be avoided following that. There was forecast for heavy rain in Wexford town around 1 and 2 yesterday but I guarantee you if they called it off at 9 yesterday morning and the rain wasn't as bad as forecasted they would be plenty giving out.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 21/02/2022 14:12:05    2401605

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "If anyone thinks it's acceptable to call a game off nine minutes before throw in with the weather forecasts now available then I'm flabbergasted. Surely consideration needs to be given to players, supporters, stewards etc on a day when driving conditions were hazardous in the extreme. There were pitch inspections in other venues at least three hours in advance."
How do you know there wasnt any earlier pitch inspections at this venue?
There most likely was and the inspection was passed but it failed the later one.
why is this such a problem for people to understand?

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3509 - 21/02/2022 14:30:47    2401612

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Every other match postponed saw a decision made either early in the morning or no later than 11.00 with the exception of Galway vs Offaly which was postponed at 11.40, a full 2 hours and 20 mins before throw in. To be leaving it as late as 1.51 because of a deluge at 1.35 shows a lack of foresight. If you had travelled from Tipp as a small number of supporters had then you'd be pretty irate.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1488 - 21/02/2022 15:50:13    2401650

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Every other match postponed saw a decision made either early in the morning or no later than 11.00 with the exception of Galway vs Offaly which was postponed at 11.40, a full 2 hours and 20 mins before throw in. To be leaving it as late as 1.51 because of a deluge at 1.35 shows a lack of foresight. If you had travelled from Tipp as a small number of supporters had then you'd be pretty irate."
if someone could have predicted the volume of rain that fell at 1.35 I'd advise them to quit there day job and go down the physic route, heavy rain was forecast but the downpour was of a biblical level, if I was a Tipp supporter I would have been annoyed but understood player welfare trumps everything else, I was in the ground myself btw arrived about 5 mins before the postponement was announced, both sets of players had been doing there warm ups so the pitch was certainly playable up until 1.30,I think your view is the epitome of Harry Hindsight.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 21/02/2022 16:47:44    2401691

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Every other match postponed saw a decision made either early in the morning or no later than 11.00 with the exception of Galway vs Offaly which was postponed at 11.40, a full 2 hours and 20 mins before throw in. To be leaving it as late as 1.51 because of a deluge at 1.35 shows a lack of foresight. If you had travelled from Tipp as a small number of supporters had then you'd be pretty irate."
i travelled from south tipp for that game in galway. no i wouldnt be irate as i would understand why it happened in this fashion.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3509 - 21/02/2022 18:33:11    2401717

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Every other match postponed saw a decision made either early in the morning or no later than 11.00 with the exception of Galway vs Offaly which was postponed at 11.40, a full 2 hours and 20 mins before throw in. To be leaving it as late as 1.51 because of a deluge at 1.35 shows a lack of foresight. If you had travelled from Tipp as a small number of supporters had then you'd be pretty irate."
Of course you would be.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11828 - 21/02/2022 20:42:29    2401735

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It was obviously unfortunate for anyone who'd travelled to the match, and particularly if they'd come from Tipp, but I'm chiming in with Wexico here because like him, I was at the ground myself. And I could be wrong, but I doubt very much that anyone else on this thread was....especially not those from other counties who are loudest with the complaints anyway.

Things were deemed playable (if not exactly ideal) all the way up to 1.30 p.m. Then there was that absolutely torrential "biblical" downpour around 1.35 p.m. The videos that were going round might have given the impression to some that it had been like that for some time, but it really only lasted 5 to 10 minutes.

Referee then went out again and decided first to put the game back by 15 minutes, to 2.15 p.m. Wexford GAA officials did what they could to try tackle some of the standing water caused by that downpour, but it became obvious they wouldn't be able to do enough. Ref then made the decision to call things off sometime just before 2 p.m.

The Wexford Park pitch gets a lot of stick, but in fairness, I'd say there's not too many grounds anywhere in the country that would recover in just 20 minutes or half an hour from the sort of deluge that fell for those few minutes.

So yes, it was an unfortunate series of events, but some of the criticism from people who weren't there or don't know the full story is unwarranted.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2241 - 22/02/2022 12:51:50    2401847

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