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Is 2022 Kieran Kingston's Last Chance With Cork?

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Given the Sunday Game's current focus on hurling managers, I am surprised that Kieran Kingston has not been subject to the same scrutiny as Mattie Kenny.

Since Kenny returned as manager in 2019 Cork have a win ration of 48%.

If you include his previous stint his % of wins drops to less than 45%.

(interestingly, Mattie's win ratio is almost exactly the same as Kingston's at just over 48%, and better if you include all of Cork's games since Kingston's first term.)

I and others look forward to Donal Óg deploying his forensic statistical skills to this. Perhaps when TSG shows the Limerick/Cork match at the end of the month?

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 659 - 09/02/2022 13:57:53    2399515

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Should be Kingston obviously not Kenny in second line!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 659 - 09/02/2022 14:12:28    2399518

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Given the Sunday Game's current focus on hurling managers, I am surprised that Kieran Kingston has not been subject to the same scrutiny as Mattie Kenny.

Since Kenny returned as manager in 2019 Cork have a win ration of 48%.

If you include his previous stint his % of wins drops to less than 45%.

(interestingly, Mattie's win ratio is almost exactly the same as Kingston's at just over 48%, and better if you include all of Cork's games since Kingston's first term.)

I and others look forward to Donal Óg deploying his forensic statistical skills to this. Perhaps when TSG shows the Limerick/Cork match at the end of the month?"
It was mentioned somewhere in recent days that it is his last year, maybe he's decided that himself, he stepped down previously due to his work commitments.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 09/02/2022 14:27:28    2399522

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Replying To wexico15:  "It was mentioned somewhere in recent days that it is his last year, maybe he's decided that himself, he stepped down previously due to his work commitments."
I did read an interview he did with local media in Cork and he didn't sound like he was going to step aside at the end of the year, but I shall take your word for it.

Anyway, I was merely using him as an example as I thought that Donal Óg - who I usually rate highly as a pundit - was engaging in a bit of a gratuitous stocking filler to criticise Kenny whose managerial record is not all that different from any of the others outside of Limerick over the past three years.

I don't think there has been any more of a clamour to replace Kingston - whether he stays or goes - than there is regarding Mattie. Which is none that I can see within the county.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 659 - 09/02/2022 16:23:50    2399556

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Well it should be, but with politics and favoritism, who knows in Cork hurling!

Cork had a fine manager in Meyler, but he got a bare two years, and that was years and years after he'd proven his managerial capacity. Why did Cork wait so long, until 2018 to appoint John Meyler? Simple! Cork hurling didn't want a Wexford man at its head, even though it was clear for years before that, that he was the best man for the job. Cork don't do 'outsiders', but had no choice in 2018, as Meyler was the only man for the job.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1266 - 10/02/2022 15:46:57    2399681

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Well it should be, but with politics and favoritism, who knows in Cork hurling!

Cork had a fine manager in Meyler, but he got a bare two years, and that was years and years after he'd proven his managerial capacity. Why did Cork wait so long, until 2018 to appoint John Meyler? Simple! Cork hurling didn't want a Wexford man at its head, even though it was clear for years before that, that he was the best man for the job. Cork don't do 'outsiders', but had no choice in 2018, as Meyler was the only man for the job."
I wouldn't imagine there's a huge queue to take over any county at the moment.

Who'd be most likely Cork successor? The Rock maybe. Actually he might bring Donal Óg on board!

There's certainly no one looking for Mattie's job here, other than the usual character(s) flying kites who go from one county to the other!

If and when he does decide to go, I'd love to see DJ if he has any ambitions county wise and assuming Gandalf stays for another ten years!

He's been brilliant with Carlow.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 659 - 10/02/2022 16:14:05    2399686

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Ben O' Connor is most likely to be the next manager. He has proven himself as a successful manager with the underage teams, and these players are the future for Cork hurlers. The All Ireland winning minor and under 20 teams of 2021 will secure the future and Ben O' Connor hopefully will be at the helm!

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 13/02/2022 12:10:45    2400070

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