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I knew when I heard there was a game yesterday with 5 red cards Armagh and Tyrone would be involved.
daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 07/02/2022 17:01:42 2399065 Link 5 |
Handbags, sticking in you for letting Mc Geeney go .
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 07/02/2022 17:28:15 2399076 Link 5 |
Armagh were by far the better team, if that will last deeper into the season is anyone's guess but you could see the frustration, in Tyrone players as the game went on. Tyrone had a good second half but Armagh always looked comfortable and I think Tyrone's frustration boiled over at the end, not a great look; my reading of it was Tyrone were annoyed losing to Armagh which was confirmed by the melee. I agree with O'Rourke on the Sunday Game, the ref was correct to stand up to Tyrone in particular and try to send a message out you can't be dragging players in head locks when you've lost a match. The GAA should try and ensure the red cards stick. sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 07/02/2022 17:52:49 2399090 Link 0 |
Thanks - well said. There wasn't a blow struck. Pushing and shoving. 5 points: 1. Even O'Rourke admitted that it was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other - if reds are now being dished out for this sort of thing, then Armagh should have had at least as many. Can anyone give a logical explanation why Tyrone got 4 times as many reds? 2. There was a very similar melee in the previous night's Dublin-Kerry game. It would have been natural for the Sunday Game to note the wildly different treatment of that similar incident. Instead, RTE didn't even show it in its analysis of the Dublin Kerry game, and not a word was spoken about it. I was waiting to see what they would say about it - and then nothing. The selective reporting, the bias, the double standards are hanging out of the "national" broadcaster; but that's old news. 3. Fitzmaurice said "it suited Tyrone to start it". That made no sense - if you're 4 points down with time running out, why would you start anything like that? That's what teams do when they're ahead … 4. O'Rourke's halo is as cheap as his opinions. Google Meath-Mayo 1996 to see boots flying in, elbows and fists - puts Sunday's handbags into perspective. 5. If reds are now being dished out for this kind of pushing and shoving, the CCC boys could take a look at the Kerry-Dublin melee and dish out a few - oh look, there go some pigs, flying overhead … It's the lack of consistency that is concerning. Does anyone for a second think that, during the rest of this season, any other team will get 4 reds for a pushing and shoving match wherein no blows were struck? Last weekend, Tyrone had a perfectly valid wining score disallowed; and now this petty nonsense, designed to make life v difficult for them in the next weekend's game. Mark my words, Tyrone will be on the wrong side of every 50:50 call in 2022. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 07/02/2022 18:43:41 2399109 Link 2 |
Agreed - but it won't be. Nobody else will get a heap of red cards like that.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 07/02/2022 18:44:58 2399110 Link 0 |
I wouldn't be getting to bothered about what the linesmen or umpires saw, they couldn't even see that Scully was 50 yards from an incident on Saturday night but he was still black carded.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2017 - 07/02/2022 18:50:50 2399114 Link 5 |
"Ugly and disgusting" - oh come on Gary Mohan wasn't far behind in the pushing and shoving stakes; in fact most of both team weren't holding much back. it wasn't a particularly dirty game though; the most disgusting thing about it was the ref's cynical cancellation of a perfectly legal wining point at the end. And you're not seriously still bitter about an unimportant U21 game? The one where Tyrone were supposed to have done all the nasty sledging that all the poor Tipp altar boys were so "shocked" about lol? Anyone who was at that game would remember how the most violent incident in the entire game was the stamping incident by a Tipp player, one that the ref "didn't see". Being that bitter 7 years after an unimportant youth match is not good for you.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 07/02/2022 18:56:51 2399116 Link 0 |
OK, so the rule book is so detailed that it differentiates between melees and nasty melees?! You're just scraping the barrel here, to justify your own bias. Also, a black card is issued when there is a drag down that prevented a possible scoring opportunity. Doubtful if there were too many scoring opportunities in such melees ...
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 07/02/2022 19:06:43 2399119 Link 0 |
"Sad reflection" - are you serious? The reason why nobody throws a punch any more is that it's a guaranteed red card, or a suspension. Lads train too hard to risk that. Up to this weekend, the understanding was you might get a yellow for wrestling and shoving, but you'd be very unlikely to get a red. That may have changed now though. But your idea that modern players are soft is very very silly. I know a few modern players who box / do MMA seriously as well; I would not like to get on the wrong side of them.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 07/02/2022 19:11:37 2399121 Link 1 |
It's ok because it happens everywhere. Well that's what we're being told anyway...
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 07/02/2022 19:25:48 2399128 Link 1 |
spot on reply
germac (Down) - Posts: 535 - 07/02/2022 19:43:12 2399135 Link 1 |
Comparing Meath vs Roscommon to this game is a bit much. There was nothing like McEntees red card in Tyrone game but similarly the rest of the melee in the Meath game hadn't a patch on the Tyrone one. UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 07/02/2022 20:31:52 2399158 Link 0 |
There's definitely an air of "It's Tyrone and Armagh so everyone fill their boots" about particularly in the Southern media and some Gaels outside Ulster. It's the usual narrative. Having said this there were some pushing and shoving that maybe came under "involving yourself in a melee" so I can see why red cards were flashed. By the same token it wasn't the worst thing that's happened on a Gaelic pitch and there HAVE been a few incidents in football and hurling this sesson that have been worse and which have been glossed over. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 07/02/2022 20:43:52 2399160 Link 1 |
But Tyrone did start it.
McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 67 - 07/02/2022 20:49:07 2399162 Link 0 |
Yeah, McGeeney has been so successful in the 9 years since he left us
jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 07/02/2022 20:57:17 2399165 Link 1 |
The five lads who got cards can't complain. The game was still on and each one of them got another player in a head lock (from behind in a the most cowardly way possible in some cases). tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1130 - 08/02/2022 09:21:43 2399207 Link 0 |
Even if it's just 'handbags' (what an inane phrase) , that kind of melee mindset needs to be stamped out, and if it takes the *consistent* application of red cards to do it, fine. TearsIn85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 194 - 08/02/2022 09:32:51 2399210 Link 0 |
So sledging them in other words - your saying Tyrone should do a bit more sledging and verbals? Did you see "each one of them" grab another player in a headlock?
benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 08/02/2022 09:34:49 2399211 Link 0 |
My feelings on the year so far. https://unofficialtyrone.wordpress.com/2022/02/07/should-we-be-worried-about-tyrones-poor-start-to-2022/ DasRoteHand (Tyrone) - Posts: 17 - 08/02/2022 09:38:33 2399213 Link 0 |
Glossed over like the way you and other Ulster posters do with anything like this happens when it's a Ulster team?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 08/02/2022 10:11:47 2399226 Link 0 |