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Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group A round 4
Wexford v Offaly, Chadwicks Wexford Park, 2pm
Cork v Galway, Pairc Ui Chaoimh, 7pm - RTE2
Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 4
Dublin v Kilkenny, Parnell Park, 5pm - RTE2

Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group A round 4
Clare v Limerick, Cusack Park, Ennis, 1.45pm - TG4 app (deferred coverage on TG4 from 5.35pm)
Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 4
Waterford v Tipperary, Walsh Park, 1.45pm - TG4
Laois v Antrim, MW Hire O'Moore Park, 3.45pm - TG4

Few interesting games at the weekend. Galway will want to bounce back but a tricky game against an impressive Cork team in Cork. Dublin will want to continue winning and I think they might just do that. Clare will want a win over Limerick I feel but I think this is a game Kiely will want to win to get the confidence up so I'd say they may line out closer to full strength than we have seen them. Laois and Antrim i expect to be seriously competitive and both will go all out for the win - maybe a few red cards in this one too. Looking forward to seeing it.

I feel its a big game for Tipp at the weekend. Waterford ran the legs off us last year and its a game we should be targeting regardless of what team Waterford put out. I'm not so concerned about winning as I am of seeing some resembelance of a starting team and a bit of form. It's yet another year where our best hurler seems to be going to play at number 7 than number 6 where I feel he's needed. We still havent come close to finding a full back since James Barry retired. Forde is arguably in the top 3 players in the country the last few years but very few else are getting to the standards needed from midfield up. Callanan looked extremely rusty the last day so this could be real make or break game for him. The two McGraths will almost definitely start and both will feel they have a lot to prove after two underwhelming years for Tipp. I think Cahill will be happy enough and is a far stronger position than Tipp right now and maybe less concerned about this game.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 03/03/2022 14:37:58    2403654

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Think people will get an idea how managers are going to treat latter stages by the teams that will be picked..I expect lim/Clare to be possibly full strength..I think cork will have changes and Galway to start as many of their big men as possible..I'm expecting Waterford to have to much for tipp,don't know if Bonner has any idea what his starting team will be..Wexford should have to much for Offaly even allowing for changes..I'm expecting killkenny to be better than last day out but think Dublin are just ahead in the work they have done..Laois surely have something to put it up to Antrim and certainly scars or two might make a huge difference..interesting weekend ahead..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2380 - 03/03/2022 14:56:30    2403658

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group A round 4
Wexford v Offaly, Chadwicks Wexford Park, 2pm
Cork v Galway, Pairc Ui Chaoimh, 7pm - RTE2
Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 4
Dublin v Kilkenny, Parnell Park, 5pm - RTE2

Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group A round 4
Clare v Limerick, Cusack Park, Ennis, 1.45pm - TG4 app (deferred coverage on TG4 from 5.35pm)
Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 4
Waterford v Tipperary, Walsh Park, 1.45pm - TG4
Laois v Antrim, MW Hire O'Moore Park, 3.45pm - TG4

Few interesting games at the weekend. Galway will want to bounce back but a tricky game against an impressive Cork team in Cork. Dublin will want to continue winning and I think they might just do that. Clare will want a win over Limerick I feel but I think this is a game Kiely will want to win to get the confidence up so I'd say they may line out closer to full strength than we have seen them. Laois and Antrim i expect to be seriously competitive and both will go all out for the win - maybe a few red cards in this one too. Looking forward to seeing it.

I feel its a big game for Tipp at the weekend. Waterford ran the legs off us last year and its a game we should be targeting regardless of what team Waterford put out. I'm not so concerned about winning as I am of seeing some resembelance of a starting team and a bit of form. It's yet another year where our best hurler seems to be going to play at number 7 than number 6 where I feel he's needed. We still havent come close to finding a full back since James Barry retired. Forde is arguably in the top 3 players in the country the last few years but very few else are getting to the standards needed from midfield up. Callanan looked extremely rusty the last day so this could be real make or break game for him. The two McGraths will almost definitely start and both will feel they have a lot to prove after two underwhelming years for Tipp. I think Cahill will be happy enough and is a far stronger position than Tipp right now and maybe less concerned about this game."
I fancy-
Wexford
Cork
Limerick
Dublin
Antrim
Waterford
I dont think Cahill will want to lose any games this year. Waterford have been a real momentum team this millenium.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13886 - 03/03/2022 15:22:30    2403663

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Replying To Wexfordgaa:  "That was 97 we were just after winning the all Ireland and wexford brought a huge crowd to Dublin. Fitz Henry had to make an unbelievable save from billy Dooley to save us from a draw"
Yes. Head's away. We only got beaten by 7 so!

Just checked. Official attendance was 52,000. Don't know where they were going to put the rest. Was easily 60,000 and more.

90s was great decade. Yourselves, Clare, Limerick, Offaly and the big boys playing catch up. Some classic games. We'd missed the boat after having a decent team that really should have won a Leinster and maybe more in 1990/91 under the great Lar.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3133 - 03/03/2022 15:45:48    2403670

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Replying To Viking66:  "
Replying To tiobraid:  "Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group A round 4
Wexford v Offaly, Chadwicks Wexford Park, 2pm
Cork v Galway, Pairc Ui Chaoimh, 7pm - RTE2
Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 4
Dublin v Kilkenny, Parnell Park, 5pm - RTE2

Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group A round 4
Clare v Limerick, Cusack Park, Ennis, 1.45pm - TG4 app (deferred coverage on TG4 from 5.35pm)
Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 4
Waterford v Tipperary, Walsh Park, 1.45pm - TG4
Laois v Antrim, MW Hire O'Moore Park, 3.45pm - TG4

Few interesting games at the weekend. Galway will want to bounce back but a tricky game against an impressive Cork team in Cork. Dublin will want to continue winning and I think they might just do that. Clare will want a win over Limerick I feel but I think this is a game Kiely will want to win to get the confidence up so I'd say they may line out closer to full strength than we have seen them. Laois and Antrim i expect to be seriously competitive and both will go all out for the win - maybe a few red cards in this one too. Looking forward to seeing it.

I feel its a big game for Tipp at the weekend. Waterford ran the legs off us last year and its a game we should be targeting regardless of what team Waterford put out. I'm not so concerned about winning as I am of seeing some resembelance of a starting team and a bit of form. It's yet another year where our best hurler seems to be going to play at number 7 than number 6 where I feel he's needed. We still havent come close to finding a full back since James Barry retired. Forde is arguably in the top 3 players in the country the last few years but very few else are getting to the standards needed from midfield up. Callanan looked extremely rusty the last day so this could be real make or break game for him. The two McGraths will almost definitely start and both will feel they have a lot to prove after two underwhelming years for Tipp. I think Cahill will be happy enough and is a far stronger position than Tipp right now and maybe less concerned about this game."
I fancy-
Wexford
Cork
Limerick
Dublin
Antrim
Waterford
I dont think Cahill will want to lose any games this year. Waterford have been a real momentum team this millenium."
Agree on 5 of the 6, i fancy Laois against Antrim, its in Portlaoise and Laois in recent years have a habit of producing big performances when the need is greatest, beat Antrim in championship relegation play off last year for example, i think Cork might be a bit flat against Galway after producing such a thunderous performance last week but at home will still have enough.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 03/03/2022 16:06:01    2403674

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Does anyone know for certain the format for the play -offs in Division One?

I had thought it was top teams in each play the final, but now I see some reference to semi finals.

Wikipedia is of no help as table shows semis but there is other reference to a straight final.

I'd imagine it is the latter given the time constraints.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3133 - 04/03/2022 12:39:21    2403776

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Does anyone know for certain the format for the play -offs in Division One?

I had thought it was top teams in each play the final, but now I see some reference to semi finals.

Wikipedia is of no help as table shows semis but there is other reference to a straight final.

I'd imagine it is the latter given the time constraints."
Top 2 into semis Barney. Final 2 weeks before the Round Robin

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13886 - 04/03/2022 12:46:14    2403779

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Does anyone know for certain the format for the play -offs in Division One?

I had thought it was top teams in each play the final, but now I see some reference to semi finals.

Wikipedia is of no help as table shows semis but there is other reference to a straight final.

I'd imagine it is the latter given the time constraints."
top 2 in 1A and 1B in semi finals, 6th in each group play off in a relegation decider.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 04/03/2022 12:50:50    2403784

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Does anyone know for certain the format for the play -offs in Division One?

I had thought it was top teams in each play the final, but now I see some reference to semi finals.

Wikipedia is of no help as table shows semis but there is other reference to a straight final.

I'd imagine it is the latter given the time constraints."
There are semi finals between the top 2 in each group. These are scheduled for the weekend of the 27th, with the final on the following weekend.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2187 - 04/03/2022 12:59:18    2403787

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Barney I thought the same as you it was the top teams from both groups who met in final??could some maybe confirm for definite what is meant to be happening??

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2380 - 04/03/2022 13:02:14    2403788

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Barney I thought the same as you it was the top teams from both groups who met in final??could some maybe confirm for definite what is meant to be happening??"
The following is from the GAA website:

TO BE CONFIRMED
Allianz Hurling League Roinn 1

Relegation Play-Off 6th Placed Team Group A v 6th Placed Team Group B Played between 26th-27th [March]

Semi-Final 1st Placed Team Group A v 2nd Placed Team Group B Played between 26th-27th

Semi-Final 2nd Placed Team Group A1 v 1st Place Team Group B Played between 26th-27th


The final will take place on the weekend of April 2nd/3rd, venues and times to be confirmed.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2655 - 04/03/2022 14:27:08    2403801

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Leaves even less time before the championship. Two weeks. That will certainly cause teams to weight their options i would imagine.

Gives ourselves a decent shot at making the semis and I'd say Kenny for one will continue to field strong if that happens.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3133 - 04/03/2022 14:40:33    2403806

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This weekends fixtures
Cork v Galway......Galway
dublin v Kilkenny...Kilkenny
Waterford v Tipperary....Waterford
Laois v Antrim.........Antrim
Clare v limrik......CLARE
wexford v Offaly....wexford

Galway always relish playing in PUC this will be a cracker.
PP will help dubs keep it tight but KK always get the better of dubs.
Waterford are flying while Tipp are in transition, should be high score game.
Clare are starting to click while limrik are sinking to 4th defeat in a row.
Offaly will give this absolutely everything and it could be tight, its a game they believe they can win but the form team at moment is wexford

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2475 - 04/03/2022 16:32:03    2403818

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Leaves even less time before the championship. Two weeks. That will certainly cause teams to weight their options i would imagine.

Gives ourselves a decent shot at making the semis and I'd say Kenny for one will continue to field strong if that happens."
Hurling league is nothing more than a pre-season competition now. Of slightly greater importance now than the Walsh Cup and no more than that. Sad that the so called " 2nd most important national. competition in hurling" has been reduced to this but not surprising since the real league is now actually the round robin matches. Wexford and Dublin should be contesting the final. For all other teams it's only for experimentation and seeing if newcomers have the ability to step up to championship level.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1953 - 04/03/2022 21:50:22    2403834

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I'd say Dublin and Wexford will go all out for the league. Cork won't . Its just not part of their tradition,ever. Even though a title might suit them, their team picked for today is nit their strongest 15. Galway will go for it if they get past today's test. I'm nit being patronising when I say Fiblin and wexford could win the league and Leinster but neither team is good enough to win the All Ireland ,yet. They may get there but they arent top 4 yet.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 05/03/2022 09:35:55    2403841

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Bloodyban that's not a weak cork team,there could be 10/11 of the championship team playing..looks to me that Galway aren't to put out with the team they have picked..it looks like all counties gear now for limerick and then ease off..limerick team is very interesting,looking forward ..to see how o neill and english get on,they are two huge prospects..hope people give them time..good to see mike Casey back,huge addition..weather also looking more like summer hurling..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2380 - 05/03/2022 10:34:49    2403846

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Replying To bloodyban:  "I'd say Dublin and Wexford will go all out for the league. Cork won't . Its just not part of their tradition,ever. Even though a title might suit them, their team picked for today is nit their strongest 15. Galway will go for it if they get past today's test. I'm nit being patronising when I say Fiblin and wexford could win the league and Leinster but neither team is good enough to win the All Ireland ,yet. They may get there but they arent top 4 yet."
Why do people think Wexford hurling people care about the League relative to the Championship more than other counties? If that was true we would surely have won 1 sometime since 1973. We have won 6 Leinster titles and reached numerous Leinster finals since then and won 1 all Ireland too reaching 2 other all Ireland finals that we lost to Cork. Our record of provincial and All Ireland finals and wins exceeds our League record by far more than any other county in Ireland.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13886 - 05/03/2022 10:58:46    2403852

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Replying To bloodyban:  "I'd say Dublin and Wexford will go all out for the league. Cork won't . Its just not part of their tradition,ever. Even though a title might suit them, their team picked for today is nit their strongest 15. Galway will go for it if they get past today's test. I'm nit being patronising when I say Fiblin and wexford could win the league and Leinster but neither team is good enough to win the All Ireland ,yet. They may get there but they arent top 4 yet."
I don't think anyone in Dublin is looking at an All Ireland. Can't speak for Wexford.

So yes, the league play-offs and then coming off a good momentum and hopefully injury/Covid/suspension free into the round robin we'll be happy to be competitive in what is going to be a seriously contested group as it was the last time pre lockdown. Any of the four could get to the final.

Limerick still the team to beat overall (good value now with the books imho), with Tipp, Cork or Waterford to be most likely to take it from them.

Dublin's main priority is not to go out tamely again in the All Ireland series after usually one or two good performances earlier.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3133 - 05/03/2022 11:31:05    2403858

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "I don't think anyone in Dublin is looking at an All Ireland. Can't speak for Wexford.

So yes, the league play-offs and then coming off a good momentum and hopefully injury/Covid/suspension free into the round robin we'll be happy to be competitive in what is going to be a seriously contested group as it was the last time pre lockdown. Any of the four could get to the final.

Limerick still the team to beat overall (good value now with the books imho), with Tipp, Cork or Waterford to be most likely to take it from them.

Dublin's main priority is not to go out tamely again in the All Ireland series after usually one or two good performances earlier."
Any chance King Con might give Matty a call? If I was Matty Id be onto Con in a big way. Maybe he has no interest. But if the likes of Con, Kilkenny and Costello decided to hurl for a year or two it would immediately propel Dublin into All Ireland contenders. I think Dublin are not that far off a big breakthrough

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 05/03/2022 12:31:38    2403866

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Hurling league is nothing more than a pre-season competition now. Of slightly greater importance now than the Walsh Cup and no more than that. Sad that the so called " 2nd most important national. competition in hurling" has been reduced to this but not surprising since the real league is now actually the round robin matches. Wexford and Dublin should be contesting the final. For all other teams it's only for experimentation and seeing if newcomers have the ability to step up to championship level."
It's almost a blessing that the League has come to this because of the pure physicality of the sport. The League serves a great purpose especially for the likes of Galway who haven't a clue who will start for them come Championship time. While I'd love to see Galway win the League, I'd much rather them settle out some kind of a team that is competitive.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2263 - 05/03/2022 12:32:48    2403867

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