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I make it three starters in the current day, it's a poor return, but no point dwelling on it. A trip to D2 won't hurt monaghan, but the u20s from last year need to be blooded. Just a thought, anyone know what the mood is in the current set up, it looked very flat today.
222 (UK) - Posts: 691 - 27/02/2022 20:55:04 2402836 Link 0 |
In all fairness Rory beggan was one of the worst players on the field today . Dunno if the risk of the way he plays is worth it , if he was an outfield player joe Kirk (the bog road man ) would have been in FarneyFan11 (Monaghan) - Posts: 10 - 27/02/2022 22:02:52 2402851 Link 0 |
Leaving a game early for the first time in 40 years is some record .Tyrone fans could possibly have done the same last year when they lost heavily to Kerry. That defeat turned their year around and we saw what happened . To date this year, Monaghan have drew against Tyrone and Armagh and were narrowly defeated by Mayo. Injuries to players ? "What in Gods name is happening to preparing players " you ask . The said players you mention. Do you even know the reason they were unavailable yesterday and have you even considered that preparation may not even have been a factor in why they weren't ? . Unfortunately players take hard knocks in games and no matter how well prepared they are they can pick up injuries . My guess is that Your big issue is with the manager and no matter what this team does even if it's good, your opinion on manager won't change. Personally all I care about is the players . No matter who their manager is and I know people have issues with different managers, I will always give 100% support to the players because they are the ones who are putting their lives on hold to put on that Monaghan jersey . So maybe get behind the players instead of letting your opinions on manager cloud your thoughts .
Positivity (Monaghan) - Posts: 9 - 28/02/2022 10:13:21 2402881 Link 0 |
Well that was a damp squib yesterday. Only positive was that we kept the score difference to 8. It was looking like 20 until O'Connor felt a bit sorry for us and took off the 2 Cliffords. Even though the goals came in the second half and some of them were gifted to Kerry, the real damage was our first half performance. Monaghan were clueless in attack. 7-4 down after playing with the wind told its own story. Tim_NicebutDim (Monaghan) - Posts: 347 - 28/02/2022 10:15:20 2402883 Link 0 |
Last week I said that we had problems in attack that if were not rectified soon we would face relation, that now looks likely as we need to get to 5 points before Dublin come to town, who will be needing to beat us to stay up themselves (4 points won't suffice before that) mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 28/02/2022 12:19:41 2402935 Link 2 |
The Fly-Keeper experiment failed today.. I counted 3 points in the first half that were down to the panic it induced when Kerry turned over the ball.. Having a Fly-keeper is fine if it happens sometimes during the game when the opposition are surprised by it. but Kerry were wholly prepared for this yesterday and exploited us when it happened. Kerry put a man marker on Rory.. so when they regained possession.. and Rory scarpered back to his goals it meant Kerry had a free man upfield to receive a pass in space. It killed us in the first half and then destroyed us in the second when we conceded 2 goals directly of it. The lobbed pass for Kerry's second goal showed that they were ready for the event of David Cliffords one on one with a defender.. what does the defender do. go for the ball or go for the goals.. It's bad enough having David Clifford baring down on goals with a Goalkeeper is position, never mind having an open goals. It was the worst day ever for Rory yesterday. Farney (Monaghan) - Posts: 801 - 28/02/2022 13:03:19 2402953 Link 1 |
Yes, 40 years I suppose is some record and although it in itself carries no merit I think it highlights the state of current affairs.. So are we gona go and win an all Ireland just like Tyrone did, is that the point your trying to make??? Maybe I'll hold you to that theory in a few weeks because Tyrone stayed up last year, will we?? A terrible analogy to use, we my man are not the Tyrone of 2021…….. Yes we have drew against a Tyrone who were only off the plane, and had 3 weeks collective training. A Mayo team who were blooding & building. And a Armagh team who came up from Div 2. Like many on this group you need to look at things more critical and not just lap up the narrative in the newspaper columns about "character". You like many in the county just don't know how far away we are from achieving success. Draws, being hard to beat doesn't win trophy's, yesterday's hammering was 2 years in the making. The mask finally fell off.. I'm very aware of the reason players were missing yesterday, McCarron being the only one not sustained due to the sport. McAn - hamstring, Gallagher - hamstring, McCar - shoulder, Ward - hamstring (after yesterday), Jones - collarbone. Do require any further confirmation? I'm extremely close to this squad with a family member in it, the amount of soft tissue injuries being sustained the past 2 years has almost doubled on the previous year. Davis was ran out of Tyrone in 2020, in 2021 Tyrone won the All Ireland, he like his main backer is a spoofer!! So, have i considered preparation may not have been a factor? I'm very aware that preparation is the very factor for the soft tissue injuries and why we looked flat, tired and beaten after 20mins of football. Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 28/02/2022 13:34:57 2402961 Link 2 |
I've watched the highlights back after being at the game yesterday…. While in the stand I asked the question "who is Ryan Wylie actually marking?" I couldn't get a answer then and I'm even more confused now! He wasn't within 10ft of a green & gold jersey for any of the goals.. What the hell is going on!! Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 28/02/2022 13:38:01 2402964 Link 1 |
Most of those lads from 16 were given a chance but just weren't good enough at senior inter county level. Barry Kerr and McGinn certainly were but work commitments and injury problems got in the way. Agree with your posts the u20 team should be blooded into the set up in a big way over next while. No harm to Banty but there is no future picking defenders in the twilight of their career in the forwards in preference to younger lads like Mulligan or Garland who deserved a run out against Kerry.
seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1798 - 28/02/2022 14:50:30 2403001 Link 2 |
Look it, We can try & be positive, as I was before yesterday, but the reality is the Banty appointment has not worked - AGAIN. The team is rudderless. There is no system, no direction & no cohesion. I am not going to call out individual players as that isn't right. The buck stops with the Banty & his waffle & the big name back room team - there is no sign of any positive impact from any of them, only negative. greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 28/02/2022 16:46:23 2403048 Link 7 |
What is Liam Sheedy adding to the setup? Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1057 - 01/03/2022 09:45:08 2403157 Link 1 |
Nothing? I think this backroom team is like the brass plate headquarters of some international companies in Dublin - only on paper.
greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 01/03/2022 11:27:26 2403197 Link 2 |
I have heard the same craic. ...sure Kerry hammered Tyrone last year and look what happened...this is where we fall into the same old trap. We spend our time talking about Tyrone and what they do and what they don't do. Bar a miracle I can't see us repeating what they did last year. The day the manager was re appointed was not a good day. When on an interview panel in Tyrone before the Kerry semi final he said Tyrone would not be fit for Kerry as with Kerry there's too many fires to put out. No point in sending a team out if in your head they're bate before the go out. Wonder did he think the same way last Sunday? It would appear so. border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 01/03/2022 13:51:38 2403248 Link 2 |
We're not going to get relegated because we lost to Kerry on Sunday. 3 games left, 2 against teams on the slide and one against a team on the up but still learning at this level. We have stayed in Div One all these years because every year we produce one result that no one was expecting. We need that result now, and I can't believe I'm saying this but I'm assuming we'll beat Dublin on the last day because I think they'll be relegated at that stage. However if we lose in Ballybofey and Newbridge, we'll be gone too. So it's time for players and management to step up. FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 563 - 01/03/2022 21:31:46 2403339 Link 0 |
Agree with most thing excluding the Dublin opinion. Dublin in the last game of the league before heading to championship will be a very different animal, don't be fooled. I fear if we don't get a win and a draw before Dublin we are goosed.
Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 01/03/2022 21:54:47 2403348 Link 0 |
The only bright point on Sunday was that Kieran Hughes proved that his best position is full forward. The fact that he hasn't been a fixture there for the last 10 years is a stain on both the current and previous manager. He had Kerry in knots early on but sadly we didn't adjust when they put a sweeper in front on him. Also his pass to young McElearney for the penalty was superb. I've been saying that for years that K Hughes has to play FF every time. They've messed him about for years. Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 346 - 05/03/2022 19:22:25 2403959 Link 1 |
How are ye fixed this weekend? Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 08/03/2022 15:00:29 2404478 Link 0 |
Better question would be was he ever in favour... moodoo (Monaghan) - Posts: 441 - 08/03/2022 16:36:57 2404506 Link 1 |
Anyone know how we are looking on the injury side of things for Sunday? Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 11/03/2022 16:10:05 2404960 Link 0 |
Got to the Minor game this morning, early start for whatever reason, but……. It sure was worth the spin.. Blueblood4life (Monaghan) - Posts: 200 - 12/03/2022 17:39:18 2405062 Link 4 |