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Replying To mick2007: "Orams trainer quit at the start of the year as he couldn't get lads training and numbers were low… delusional to think oram have anything outside of a 22/23 man squad….hence why their B team had a fair sprinkling of senior players playing on it…" Go and have a look at there most recent program on monaghan twitter. 31 players named at least 27/28 of those were togged out. Monaghan_football (Monaghan) - Posts: 24 - 19/09/2024 16:34:27 2570815 Link
Replying To Jjoniel79: "Teachers putting messages into WhatsApp groups with players by accident with the names of lads 'not for consideration' was the latest. Previously one genius manager decided not to play any of his 6th year students in the McRory cup in order to develop the 5th years.. unsurprisingly this didn't go well and both year groups were unhappy. Then the next year the supposedly developed 6th years got annihilate so the whole episode was for naught. As a program the sems development system has been in bad shape for a long time as evidence by their lack of success. Seems that beech hill and the Irish school is where it's at for young north Monaghan footballers now." This is almost as ridiculous of a rant as your one about reserve football!! FarneyGael23 (Monaghan) - Posts: 5 - 19/09/2024 17:06:23 2570822 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "The drop off would be high comparable to scotstown. Magheracloone, Donaghmoyne and Monaghan harps would all have similar numbers from u6-u16 but scotstown have good retention rates based on their splitting of teams based on age and not ability to give all players football and in result keep more lads playing football for longer. Few teams this year have 2 minor teams so a lot of it comes down to keeping their players playing longer and not trying to win every underage competition.. I would imagine if you check the last 15 years of u12,14 and 16 div 1 winners the roll of honour would be Donaghmoyne, magheracloone Blayney… equal playing numbers as scotstown but unable to retain the players as focus on winning" Veteran, if you keep telling the same lies all the time you'll believe them yourself. This has been explained to you about 2 months ago, that the rise and fall of number playing underage is due to population trends after the collapse of the Celtic Tiger, nothing to do with Scotstown being able to retain players. And on the topic of population, a quick Google search will show you that Tedavnet parish has a population of 11,500 whilst the population of Magheracloone parish has a population of approximately 2,000. Donaghmoyne parish has 2,700 but is divided with Toome and to a lesser extent Blackhill. BrehonBlonde (Monaghan) - Posts: 82 - 19/09/2024 18:30:59 2570836 Link
Replying To Deadballmerchant: "in terms of the u6 -u16 ages most clubs that i know of base their teams on age if there is multiple and not by the quality of the players and the reason i imagine most teams don't have 2 minor teams this year is probably based off the birth rates and not that everyone has quit. Highly doubt scotstown aren't trying to win these competitions and just focus on development, truth is the other teams probably just have better quality underage teams/ development." So you think other clubs at u14 level have their div 1 teams based on age? All players born in a certain year are playing for the div 1 team? I would say most clubs divide their players on ability.. best players at u14 play div 1.. rest play div 4.. an and b team. Scotstown did that for years until about 10 years ago. veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 642 - 19/09/2024 19:28:42 2570842 Link
Replying To Edd,South(EU): "Who is the new manager?" Gabriel Bannigan Damien Freeman Andy Moran John mc elhone currinman (Monaghan) - Posts: 39 - 19/09/2024 19:53:04 2570844 Link
Replying To ORIELMAN85: "Big announcement coming, possibly tonight." Won't make an ounce of difference…. Never got your hands on Sam and you never will… good lad ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2987 - 19/09/2024 20:17:19 2570848 Link
Interesting managment team. On the fence on this one. 222 (UK) - Posts: 804 - 19/09/2024 21:10:15 2570855 Link
Replying To FarneyGael23: "This is almost as ridiculous of a rant as your one about reserve football!!" Show me the trophies? Jjoniel79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 175 - 19/09/2024 21:34:42 2570860 Link
Not hugely surprised by Bannigans appointment. He was part of the set up the last two years so will be well aware of the squads strengths and weaknesses. Good to see Damien freeman involved. Andy Moran is the wildcard. Be interesting to see what he brings. Some might be a bit underwhelmed by appointment but county team in transition and realistically were never going to attract a big name.. seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1846 - 19/09/2024 21:42:46 2570863 Link
Replying To veterngaa: "So you think other clubs at u14 level have their div 1 teams based on age? All players born in a certain year are playing for the div 1 team? I would say most clubs divide their players on ability.. best players at u14 play div 1.. rest play div 4.. an and b team. Scotstown did that for years until about 10 years ago." Ye must live in a bubble out there. Quite hilarious that you believe clubs have the luxury of being able to field an u14 team purely made up of players in their last year. HB245 (Monaghan) - Posts: 247 - 19/09/2024 21:58:45 2570866 Link
Replying To currinman: "Gabriel Bannigan Damien Freeman Andy Moran John mc elhone" Not sure I'd be happy tonight if I was from Monaghan. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1022 - 19/09/2024 22:20:58 2570872 Link
I would try to b optimistic about this appointment but all I see is a further step back. It's just ur previous guard with a draft of really anyone who is trying to progress their own career. I wouldn't have thought that much of Andy Moran personally with Leitrim mcelhone however could b something different. Don't know very much about him tho so we will just have to wait and see. Personally however all I see is another relegation on the cards Monagahan54321. (Monaghan) - Posts: 2 - 19/09/2024 22:26:44 2570873 Link
Replying To currinman: "Gabriel Bannigan Damien Freeman Andy Moran John mc elhone" How Andy Moran worked his way on to that management team is a bit of mystery. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3479 - 19/09/2024 23:33:58 2570876 Link
Replying To HB245: "Ye must live in a bubble out there. Quite hilarious that you believe clubs have the luxury of being able to field an u14 team purely made up of players in their last year." They have always had numbers. They were the first club to start fielding b teams for juveniles back around 2002. They are doing it 20 years .:: it's only a problem since winning! The idea of the GAA is to provide games for members and that's what they do well .. all kids get games .. they are focused on participation and keeping kids playing and not winning juvenile competitions. How many clubs and players around Monaghan have sat on benches and not played because the juvenile manager wanted to to win the competition. You're missing the point. You're blinded by just saying numbers! Look beyond that and how they run their juvenile system .. it's a brand .. future blues veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 642 - 20/09/2024 07:53:45 2570887 Link
Replying To 222: "Maybe a little harsh on my previous post but just an example of 4 clubs who have had underage difficulties in recent times. I would agree with a previous poster that in time clubs like that could struggle on numbers and joining up may be the solution. Anyway small ball weekend in the county, Inniskeen for back to back? Remarkable that Inniskeen are fielding almost two different teams in both codes at senior. Blayney will be hoping to win it back. A good discussion has broken out on junior fotoball but hurling also needs a serious review. Defo should be a club in the north West of county." For all the talk about Scotstown and their numbers, the biggest disgrace of all is that they don't field a hurling team! Agree it would be good to see a hurling team in Clones or that area. As for the finals, Truagh to win the Junior final by 5-10 points. Senior final: Inniskeen have Kevin Crawley from Killanny back (he was out injured last year). Blayney are without Leo Maloney their free taker from last year. Could be a tight one. Its in Latton which may suit Inniskeen more, being more physical team. Still Blayney will be hungry and I'll go with them, just about! MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 203 - 20/09/2024 08:01:21 2570889 Link
Replying To HB245: "Ye must live in a bubble out there. Quite hilarious that you believe clubs have the luxury of being able to field an u14 team purely made up of players in their last year." And says that Scotstown have a similar population, when in fact they are 4 times the size of Donaghmoyne, 5 times the size of Magheracloone. If those clubs had to field a team only born in one calendar year there would be years they wouldn't be able to field. Maybe that would suit Scotstown. BrehonBlonde (Monaghan) - Posts: 82 - 20/09/2024 08:08:56 2570892 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Won't make an ounce of difference…. Never got your hands on Sam and you never will… good lad" Living in the past as per usual…… The future is blue……….. What happened there? eirekeeper (Monaghan) - Posts: 117 - 20/09/2024 08:44:17 2570895 Link
So I'm trying to figure this one out, Seamus McEnaney and his back room team weren't working so McEnaney stepped down then we give the job to Vinny(part of McEnaneys back room team) so then Vinny and his back room team weren't working so Vinny stepped down and then we give the job to Gabriel Bannigan, right. I'll be scratching my head for a while over this one. Blackcardnot (USA) - Posts: 35 - 20/09/2024 09:32:34 2570900 Link
Replying To Blackcardnot: "So I'm trying to figure this one out, Seamus McEnaney and his back room team weren't working so McEnaney stepped down then we give the job to Vinny(part of McEnaneys back room team) so then Vinny and his back room team weren't working so Vinny stepped down and then we give the job to Gabriel Bannigan, right. I'll be scratching my head for a while over this one." Common thread on both appointments is there wasnt that many interested on either occasion. Bannigan is capable enoough operator experienced but he has been there past two years working alongside Vinny so youd imagine he wont make many changes. The Andy Moran inclusion is a suprise and could go well as new voice in the place. The tyrone lad also. What is key is a rebuild is needed. Id be suprised if the older lads mid 30s up are back this year. seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1846 - 20/09/2024 09:53:44 2570904 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Won't make an ounce of difference…. Never got your hands on Sam and you never will… good lad" Here we go again..... monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 397 - 20/09/2024 10:56:36 2570925 Link