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Replying To Undertheroad:  "I am not giving Predictions here but I will say its a absolute disgrace that the County board have a round of championships matches on the weekend/ day of a All Ireland final let it be football or hurling. No wonder some lads don't put themselves forward for county selection when this rubbish goes on . All Ireland final should be a free weekend for all players fixtures committee take note you are driving players away and supporters."
What's your solution? Takes 10 weeks to run off the group stage in hurling & football, no space to give up two full weekends. Unfair to play games midweek with players travelling from work in Dublin, Limerick etc.

Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 178 - 25/07/2024 16:29:14    2561549

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Now that championship is up and running in both football and hurling, will we see the group tables on the Westmeath website or app soon? App seems to be very good so far, onwards and upwards

Tailteannchamps (Westmeath) - Posts: 29 - 25/07/2024 17:04:08    2561551

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Replying To Meridian:  "I don't see the issue with it. The competition has to be completed so lets get on with it. If the Fixture Committee had days to play with i'm sure they would give all the weekend off. I'm sure they and everyone else would rather play then and avoid having to play midweek evening matches with work etc.

Also, how is this in any way driving players away from representing their County teams?"
Thursday, Friday and Saturday is plenty of time and over a weekend to play matches and I'm sure on all Ireland final weekend most players would rather play on a Thursday or Friday than Sunday evening, those playing Sunday might not even get to see the final, unfair on those players

Tailteannchamps (Westmeath) - Posts: 29 - 25/07/2024 17:08:43    2561552

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Replying To Wmeath2:  "What's your solution? Takes 10 weeks to run off the group stage in hurling & football, no space to give up two full weekends. Unfair to play games midweek with players travelling from work in Dublin, Limerick etc."
Full weekend off is exsessive but there should be very few or none played on the day of the finals.

martyW (Westmeath) - Posts: 327 - 25/07/2024 17:15:09    2561554

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Replying To Meridian:  "I don't see the issue with it. The competition has to be completed so lets get on with it. If the Fixture Committee had days to play with i'm sure they would give all the weekend off. I'm sure they and everyone else would rather play then and avoid having to play midweek evening matches with work etc.

Also, how is this in any way driving players away from representing their County teams?"
County players get little reward for the commitment they put in but one entailment they do have is a ticket for All Ireland . So what do the fixture committee do take that entailment away for them by fixing championship games on same day.

Undertheroad (Westmeath) - Posts: 46 - 25/07/2024 18:44:48    2561573

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Replying To martyW:  "Senior
Kinnegad vs Tyrrellspass - Kinnegad by 1
St Lomans vs Tang - Lomans by 7
Mullingar Shamrocks vs Moate - Mullingar by 4
Killucan vs Shandonagh - Draw
The Downs vs St Malachys - Downs by 9
Caulry vs Athlone - Draw

Intermediate
Maryland vs Kilbeggen - Maryland by 2
Milltownpass Vs Milltown - Draw
Castledaly V Garrycastle - Garrycastle by 12
Ballynacargy V Multyfarnham - Multy by 5
Ballymore V St Mary's - St Mary's by 3
Tubberclair V Rosemount - Draw"
Im signing in from sunny Spain to give my honest predictions.
Caulry V Athlone, Pat flanagan hasnt added anything in fact Caulry are gone back since last year and Athlone are improving, Athlone by 4
Kinnegad V Tyrrellspass Pass by 5, Kinnegad cant score and Tyrrellspass are in the mood this yeae
Lomans V Tang, lets be real about it Lomans 2nd team would beat Tang Lomans by 12
Shamrocks V Moate, wasnt alot in this game last year, feeling a draw.
Killucan V Shandonagh, Shandonagh need to get there act together fast and can against a backwards Killucan team, Shandonagh by 3
Downs V St Malachys, nearly a bigger mismatch than Lomans and Tang, Downs by 10

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 102 - 25/07/2024 20:40:16    2561590

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Replying To Meridian:  "I don't see the issue with it. The competition has to be completed so lets get on with it. If the Fixture Committee had days to play with i'm sure they would give all the weekend off. I'm sure they and everyone else would rather play then and avoid having to play midweek evening matches with work etc.

Also, how is this in any way driving players away from representing their County teams?"
If you don't see an issue with it you obviously never have played a whole lot yourself or else are a county board yes man! It's a disgrace that games are clashing with it, they could easily have played the double headers at 11.30am and 1pm and at least the club players could watch the game if they couldn't go to it. Nobody can surely justify playing at 5.45pm the evening of the All Ireland Final.

TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 150 - 25/07/2024 20:45:04    2561591

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Replying To Undertheroad:  "County players get little reward for the commitment they put in but one entailment they do have is a ticket for All Ireland . So what do the fixture committee do take that entailment away for them by fixing championship games on same day."
County players get extremely well looked after in 2024, don't be naive, tonnes of gear, generous expenses, nutrition allowance, there's only a couple of fixtures on Sunday evening,

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1789 - 25/07/2024 23:03:56    2561624

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Replying To Undertheroad:  "County players get little reward for the commitment they put in but one entailment they do have is a ticket for All Ireland . So what do the fixture committee do take that entailment away for them by fixing championship games on same day."
Every county player get a ticket to the all ireland final?? I didnt know that.
I saw the breakdown of ticket allocation for the All Ireland Finals and i didnt see anything about County Players.

Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 636 - 26/07/2024 09:04:56    2561647

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Replying To Meridian:  "Every county player get a ticket to the all ireland final?? I didnt know that.
I saw the breakdown of ticket allocation for the All Ireland Finals and i didnt see anything about County Players."
It's been like that for the guts of 20 years. Majority of every county panel gets two tickets each, with a bigger panel or fringe panelists getting one usually. But 25-30
Players on every panel get the option to buy two tickets every year. Not many seem to know this

WmeathWarrior (Westmeath) - Posts: 27 - 26/07/2024 10:54:54    2561678

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "County players get extremely well looked after in 2024, don't be naive, tonnes of gear, generous expenses, nutrition allowance, there's only a couple of fixtures on Sunday evening,"
Only a couple of fixtures? I don't think that makes it any less disgraceful. On top of players, the people at the host venue, referees, linesmen, umpires, supporters etc all are being forced to miss the biggest game in the calendar. There's simply no way of justifying it. And I have no doubt our co board will somehow turn it back on the clubs when they agreed to the master fixture list last winter. I don't think anyone ever foreseen games actually being fixed against the All Ireland Final.

TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 150 - 26/07/2024 11:01:49    2561679

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Two matches at 5.45 on Sunday evening, All Ireland final over at 5.00, hardly warrants the overreaction on your part.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1789 - 26/07/2024 11:37:55    2561691

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Two matches at 5.45 on Sunday evening, All Ireland final over at 5.00, hardly warrants the overreaction on your part."
Yes and those teams will be meeting from probably 4:30-4:45, take into account how far they've to travel to the match and they might just get to watch the first half of it, what if it goes to extra time like the hurling last week? Co board should have some respect for the players and not allow this to happen

Tailteannchamps (Westmeath) - Posts: 29 - 26/07/2024 12:05:28    2561704

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "County players get extremely well looked after in 2024, don't be naive, tonnes of gear, generous expenses, nutrition allowance, there's only a couple of fixtures on Sunday evening,"
your talking nonsense anyone thinking sunday evening games all ireland sunday where players are effected badly is deluded.

jiminycricket (Offaly) - Posts: 26 - 26/07/2024 13:03:22    2561730

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Two matches at 5.45 on Sunday evening, All Ireland final over at 5.00, hardly warrants the overreaction on your part."
If this is your genuine thought process I sincerely hope you are nowhere near any committee's, and if you are it's the exact reason we end up with decisions like we are getting. There's county players I'm sure involved in those fixtures who have to lose out on going to that game when they could have fixed them for that morning.

TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 150 - 26/07/2024 14:03:28    2561761

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Two matches at 5.45 on Sunday evening, All Ireland final over at 5.00, hardly warrants the overreaction on your part."
Ok , let's assume AI final finishes at 5. Most managers will want their players to be at pitch one hour before throw in. Thats 4.45. As teleportation(as in Star Trek) is still not perfected and on average players giving themselves an average of half hour to get to venue, then they have to leave for venue at 4.15. Also given that it's championship, the player has to be focussing on the game in question. So they may get to watch the first half of AI but as for enjoying it, that's another matter. As for the supporters of those teams involved in the 5.45 throw-ins, well let's hope that the final doesn't go to extra time.
I've said it before. If the county board is looking to free up weekends for championship, they can always dispense with league finals, which are a contradiction in terms. A league is a league. The team that finishes top of the league IS the league winner, simple as.I brought this up at a meeting with members of the county board once upon a time and was told that this won't happen because of the revenue these games bring in.

kingfixer1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 2 - 26/07/2024 14:09:25    2561765

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "County players get extremely well looked after in 2024, don't be naive, tonnes of gear, generous expenses, nutrition allowance, there's only a couple of fixtures on Sunday evening,"
your talking nonsense anyone thinking sunday evening games all ireland sunday where players are effected badly is deluded.

jiminycricket (Offaly) - Posts: 26 - 26/07/2024 14:18:31    2561772

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Replying To kingfixer1:  "Ok , let's assume AI final finishes at 5. Most managers will want their players to be at pitch one hour before throw in. Thats 4.45. As teleportation(as in Star Trek) is still not perfected and on average players giving themselves an average of half hour to get to venue, then they have to leave for venue at 4.15. Also given that it's championship, the player has to be focussing on the game in question. So they may get to watch the first half of AI but as for enjoying it, that's another matter. As for the supporters of those teams involved in the 5.45 throw-ins, well let's hope that the final doesn't go to extra time.
I've said it before. If the county board is looking to free up weekends for championship, they can always dispense with league finals, which are a contradiction in terms. A league is a league. The team that finishes top of the league IS the league winner, simple as.I brought this up at a meeting with members of the county board once upon a time and was told that this won't happen because of the revenue these games bring in."
So you're saying that Westmeath didn't actually win the div 3 national league this year? Oh ok! Every league has a league final. We're not the premiership. This is how the GAA runs. Club and County. League finals are brilliant additions. If it was a case that the winner of the league finishes first then teams would play the league in a differnt manner closer to the end of it. Top two are in a final and in some counties the top 4 go into league semi finals. Top team isn't the winner I'm afraid. League final winner.. is the winner.

WmeathWarrior (Westmeath) - Posts: 27 - 26/07/2024 14:30:50    2561777

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Replying To WmeathWarrior:  "So you're saying that Westmeath didn't actually win the div 3 national league this year? Oh ok! Every league has a league final. We're not the premiership. This is how the GAA runs. Club and County. League finals are brilliant additions. If it was a case that the winner of the league finishes first then teams would play the league in a differnt manner closer to the end of it. Top two are in a final and in some counties the top 4 go into league semi finals. Top team isn't the winner I'm afraid. League final winner.. is the winner."
I don't agree with league finals, I'm not trying to deny their existence. There wasn't always league finals in Westmeath anyway. Westmeath won the Div 3 league final of course, but the reason there are league finals in Croke Park is surely to generate revenue.

kingfixer1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 2 - 26/07/2024 14:45:58    2561782

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Two matches at 5.45 on Sunday evening, All Ireland final over at 5.00, hardly warrants the overreaction on your part."
Ridiculous statement. County fixtures messed up here. All games should be played from Thursday evenings to Sunday mornings on the weekend of all ireland finals. No respect shown to players here.

Left Full (Westmeath) - Posts: 247 - 26/07/2024 14:46:08    2561783

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