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Replying To honda15: "If it is Shamrocks, Athlone and Shandonagh will Shamrocks not go through? Bet Shandonagh by 9 and lost to Athlone by 2 leaving them on +7. Athlone bet them by 2 and Shandonagh by 1 leaving +3." No as it's not based on scoring difference first, as most had presumed. It's based on results and Athlone beat both Shamrocks and Shandonagh. jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 455 - 17/08/2023 11:16:53 2500932 Link
Replying To honda15: "If it is Shamrocks, Athlone and Shandonagh will Shamrocks not go through? Bet Shandonagh by 9 and lost to Athlone by 2 leaving them on +7. Athlone bet them by 2 and Shandonagh by 1 leaving +3." In that case Athlone would go through as they have beaten Shamrocks and Shandonagh giving them 4 points. Shamrocks have 2 and Shandonagh 0. Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 180 - 17/08/2023 11:21:21 2500936 Link
Replying To jamsie: "No as it's not based on scoring difference first, as most had presumed. It's based on results and Athlone beat both Shamrocks and Shandonagh." Oh wow. Never heard of that happening before. Is that a rule in Westmeath that has changed or across the GAA as a whole? honda15 (Longford) - Posts: 94 - 17/08/2023 11:44:57 2500949 Link
Replying To honda15: "Oh wow. Never heard of that happening before. Is that a rule in Westmeath that has changed or across the GAA as a whole?" You haven't heard of it because it isn't a rule! Head to head if two teams level on points Scored Diff if 3 or more teams level on points (Score diff only for the games the 3 teams were involved in) Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 490 - 17/08/2023 14:14:17 2500993 Link
Dessie and Co back again next year. Really looking forward to see how we progress after this year, hopefully no retirements and few new young faces in the panel will surely push us on westmeath99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 19 - 17/08/2023 15:22:47 2501018 Link
Replying To Temple56: "You haven't heard of it because it isn't a rule! Head to head if two teams level on points Scored Diff if 3 or more teams level on points (Score diff only for the games the 3 teams were involved in)" Thought that too. Not any more. Go to GAA.ie Look up 2033 Official Guide (Part 1) (1) Then scroll to 6.21 No mention of a difference for 3 teams anymore Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1030 - 17/08/2023 17:21:54 2501057 Link
Replying To Temple56: "You haven't heard of it because it isn't a rule! Head to head if two teams level on points Scored Diff if 3 or more teams level on points (Score diff only for the games the 3 teams were involved in)" Potentially four teams locked in a mini score diff league then (Caulry and Downs play out draw who knows) Pressure on Killucan if they can get Lomans in a dogfight and out of Cusack they will beat them like they done to Kinnegad last day in the Bridge lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 109 - 17/08/2023 18:39:48 2501073 Link
Replying To westmeath99: "Dessie and Co back again next year. Really looking forward to see how we progress after this year, hopefully no retirements and few new young faces in the panel will surely push us on" Has Dessie confirmed ? Chairperson said he is still mulling it over. His name didn't go forward for ratification on Weds night. See Declan Kelly appointed in Offaly. Don't know the chap but impressed with what he did with Offaly 20's and Loman's. See he has brought Kilmurray with him. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1159 - 17/08/2023 18:52:51 2501074 Link
Replying To westmeath99: "Dessie and Co back again next year. Really looking forward to see how we progress after this year, hopefully no retirements and few new young faces in the panel will surely push us on" From what I hear (from county committee meeting last night), Dessie isn't confirmed yet... stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 588 - 17/08/2023 19:09:42 2501075 Link
Replying To Temple56: "You haven't heard of it because it isn't a rule! Head to head if two teams level on points Scored Diff if 3 or more teams level on points (Score diff only for the games the 3 teams were involved in)" Please Temple56 educatue yourselft and stop confusing things. As mupltiple people have already posted here, it is the new rule 6.21 passed at congress this year. ondeball (Westmeath) - Posts: 122 - 18/08/2023 08:27:04 2501095 Link
Replying To BigSur: "Has Dessie confirmed ? Chairperson said he is still mulling it over. His name didn't go forward for ratification on Weds night. See Declan Kelly appointed in Offaly. Don't know the chap but impressed with what he did with Offaly 20's and Loman's. See he has brought Kilmurray with him." Apologies, I thought I had read something on home page about his re appointment westmeath99 (Westmeath) - Posts: 19 - 18/08/2023 10:18:13 2501108 Link
Replying To ondeball: "Please Temple56 educatue yourselft and stop confusing things. As mupltiple people have already posted here, it is the new rule 6.21 passed at congress this year." At national congress or Westmeath? I can't find anything online from official streams? Also it hasn't been updated on official rules on the website westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 279 - 18/08/2023 14:23:17 2501184 Link
Replying To westmeathgaa11: "At national congress or Westmeath? I can't find anything online from official streams? Also it hasn't been updated on official rules on the website" It is on it. Look on Mullingar Shamrock's Facebook page. They explain it quite well there. Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1030 - 18/08/2023 15:21:56 2501202 Link
Replying To westmeathgaa11: "At national congress or Westmeath? I can't find anything online from official streams? Also it hasn't been updated on official rules on the website" At national congress. The 2023 version of the rules was updated on the gaa website can be found here: https://www.gaa.ie/api/pdfs/image/upload/wqyurc9ptfa4hto2ypby.pdf The relevant rule is 6.21 on page 96. The change is subtle but the wording is different to the 2022 version of the rules. ondeball (Westmeath) - Posts: 122 - 18/08/2023 17:35:44 2501225 Link
Replying To lakecounty90: "Potentially four teams locked in a mini score diff league then (Caulry and Downs play out draw who knows) Pressure on Killucan if they can get Lomans in a dogfight and out of Cusack they will beat them like they done to Kinnegad last day in the Bridge" Lomans vs killucan in Ballynacargy Westmeath213 (Westmeath) - Posts: 336 - 18/08/2023 21:42:38 2501246 Link
Replying To westmeathgaa11: "At national congress or Westmeath? I can't find anything online from official streams? Also it hasn't been updated on official rules on the website" Senior Football section B 1, Who ever losses between Shamrocks and Moate are out. 2,If it ends in a draw both teams are out if Athlone or Shandonagh win. If both Shandonagh and athlone win Athlone go through on the head to head. 3, if Shamrocks/Moate ends In a draw and athlone and Shandonagh lose, Moate will go through on better scores 51 against 50 as table is now. 4. Take that athlone and Shandonagh win. If Shamrocks win their game Athlone go through. If Moate win their game, Moate go through. This is what I took from the new rule R6.21 CHAMPS (Westmeath) - Posts: 41 - 18/08/2023 21:42:40 2501247 Link
Replying To CHAMPS: "Senior Football section B 1, Who ever losses between Shamrocks and Moate are out. 2,If it ends in a draw both teams are out if Athlone or Shandonagh win. If both Shandonagh and athlone win Athlone go through on the head to head. 3, if Shamrocks/Moate ends In a draw and athlone and Shandonagh lose, Moate will go through on better scores 51 against 50 as table is now. 4. Take that athlone and Shandonagh win. If Shamrocks win their game Athlone go through. If Moate win their game, Moate go through. This is what I took from the new rule R6.21" Yep, it's great craic. If Moate win , then Athlone and Shamrocks are out. Shandonagh would qualify then on h2h if they win, and Athlone don't. Moate would qualify if Athlone win and/or Shandonagh don't. If Shamrocks win , then Moate and Shandonagh are out. Athlone would qualify if they win. Shandonagh result irrelevant. If Athlone don't win Shamrocks through. If Athlone win, then Shandonagh and Shamrocks are out. Moate will qualify if they win. If Shamrocks win , then Athlone through. If Shandonagh win, then they need Moate to win and Athlone to fail to win. jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 455 - 19/08/2023 07:38:40 2501261 Link
If Shandonagh win by 3-4 points and Moate and Athlone win by less then it's very tight. At moment in those 3 teams mini group they'd have same number of points, Athlone -4, Shandonagh +1, Moate + 3. Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1867 - 19/08/2023 11:45:39 2501283 Link
Big weekend for the intermediate groups as well. Group A is very tight but Tubberclair should take care of Ballymore & Milltown will easily best Rochfortbridge who are already dropping to Group B for next year. Castleday-Rosemount is hard to call but I think Castledaly will shade it to take a semi final spot meaning Ballymore will drop to Group B. Group B is just as tight for 4 teams. Malachys already through but are still likely beat Multy, Bal should beat CFCW easily as they are already relegated to Junior. Maryland-Milltownpass will be very close but I think if Bal win they go through regardless on head to head. Very competitive championship in both groups as usual. Left Full (Westmeath) - Posts: 250 - 21/08/2023 10:45:01 2501536 Link
Replying To Westmeath213: "Lomans vs killucan in Ballynacargy" Killucan are and will be the only team to get 'a crack' at the now perceived top two St Lomans and Kinnegad outside of Cusack this year. Interesting fact just saying. A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 232 - 21/08/2023 14:07:30 2501610 Link