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What is the structure of the football championship in Westmeath. I am reading great things about it on our page

B&G (Longford) - Posts: 366 - 09/08/2023 21:33:28    2499812

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Replying To B&G:  "What is the structure of the football championship in Westmeath. I am reading great things about it on our page"
In senior and Intermediate. 2 groups A and B.
A group is stronger than B group.
If you come first or second in A into a semi.
If you come third or fourth in A into a quarter.
If you come fifth or sixth in A relegated to group B following year.
If you come first or second in group B into a quarter and promoted to group A following year so can't be relegated following year
If you come last in group B relegated to lower grade

Junior is different but also very competitive

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1031 - 10/08/2023 10:25:24    2499837

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Replying To CasKD:  "Think you may have tinted glasses on. Referee got most decisions right. The player the goalie pulled down should have seen the line earlier for his usual striking offence in the incident where fleming got his black. I think the goalies was more a black card than a red as he pulled him down rather than struck but made no difference to the result as there wasn't more than a minute left."
Killucan goalie came out with ball in one had and clearly struck the Kinnegad player with the other, should have been a red card.
I was standing that side of stand lucky boy when you see what Tyrrellspass player got straight for.
No tinted glasses on or connections to Killucan or Kinnegad calling it as I see it
Cant wait for the last round games to be played.

lakecounty90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 118 - 10/08/2023 10:38:25    2499842

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "The one with the best scoring difference of the 3 teams would go through. Note only the scoring difference between the 3 teams involved is to be used, not overall scoring difference. This went trough at congress this year apparently."
I am missing something here, my understanding is that head to head would be used first then scoring difference, maybe i am wrong

dec (None) - Posts: 287 - 10/08/2023 11:02:49    2499850

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Replying To Lester_O'Dowd123:  "Well now Clare, I don't think that's entirely fair. I understand why many are upset over his decision to not go all out against Lomans. Of course no one wants to watch a match where one team isn't even trying to win. However from a tactical point of view I understand where he's coming from. There was no chance of Caulry beating Lomans. They had a spirited performance against Killucan in their previous outing but that still doesn't put them near the level of Lomans. I think it was the better option to not reveal their hand in a game where they are nearly guaranteed to lose. The better option is to leave it until their next run in wit Lomans to go all out. For their next game Caulry know exactly how Lomans will set up. However Lomans won't have a clue abt any of Caulry's tactics or game plan. To be honest I think this advantage on the tacital side of things is Caulry only chance of ever beating Lomans. Because of all this I agree with Curren's decision. Even if it did make the game a worse experience for the fans."
Well Lester , I think that you haven't a clue about Westmeath and Caulry football . The carry on in last Saturday evening left every Caulry supporter fuming. Very disrespectful to Loman's and natural 's alike .
The reality is that if Shane Curran had the pick of all south Westmeath he still could not pick a team to beat the present day St. Loman's. I was talking to a former Caulry player. He told me about Larry Nugent going over Mickey Scanlon's head to catch a ball. That's the Caulry way.
Westmeath have a great Championship system in place the envey of most counties . We don't want ruined by the Cake or another Cake

Icehouse (Westmeath) - Posts: 81 - 10/08/2023 11:18:09    2499852

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Replying To dec:  "I am missing something here, my understanding is that head to head would be used first then scoring difference, maybe i am wrong"
No as far as I know and from reading this weeks Westmeath Examiner. Head to head is only for 2 teams.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1031 - 10/08/2023 13:52:40    2499887

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "No as far as I know and from reading this weeks Westmeath Examiner. Head to head is only for 2 teams."
ok, so in section B, if shamrocks beat Moate or if Moate beat Shamrocks, Shandonagh beat Tang and Athlone beat Garrycastle, then the 3 teams will all be on 6 points meaning the team with the best scoring average will qualify for the quarter final?

dec (None) - Posts: 287 - 10/08/2023 14:55:34    2499909

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Replying To dec:  "ok, so in section B, if shamrocks beat Moate or if Moate beat Shamrocks, Shandonagh beat Tang and Athlone beat Garrycastle, then the 3 teams will all be on 6 points meaning the team with the best scoring average will qualify for the quarter final?"
Yes and it would be Moate or Shamrocks in that scenario.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 465 - 10/08/2023 15:22:55    2499920

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Replying To dec:  "ok, so in section B, if shamrocks beat Moate or if Moate beat Shamrocks, Shandonagh beat Tang and Athlone beat Garrycastle, then the 3 teams will all be on 6 points meaning the team with the best scoring average will qualify for the quarter final?"
The best scoring difference of the games between the 3 teams rather than overall I think

martyW (Westmeath) - Posts: 333 - 10/08/2023 15:48:57    2499928

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Replying To dec:  "ok, so in section B, if shamrocks beat Moate or if Moate beat Shamrocks, Shandonagh beat Tang and Athlone beat Garrycastle, then the 3 teams will all be on 6 points meaning the team with the best scoring average will qualify for the quarter final?"
Specifically the best scoring average based on the games played between the 3 teams tied, not the overall table.

No hurling or football fixtures up for this weekend, is either going to take place?

iarmhi_an_mhaith (Westmeath) - Posts: 275 - 10/08/2023 15:59:55    2499930

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As another poster posted a few days ago, rule 6.21 changed this year. If three teams are level the results in the games only between those three teams determine who qualifies, then score difference between those three teams, etc. this is different to previous years where score difference overall determines who qualified.

Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 180 - 10/08/2023 16:45:03    2499952

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Replying To iarmhi_an_mhaith:  "Specifically the best scoring average based on the games played between the 3 teams tied, not the overall table.

No hurling or football fixtures up for this weekend, is either going to take place?"
No fixtures this week due to the the fleadh.

mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 251 - 10/08/2023 16:45:21    2499953

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Replying To lakecounty90:  "Killucan goalie came out with ball in one had and clearly struck the Kinnegad player with the other, should have been a red card.
I was standing that side of stand lucky boy when you see what Tyrrellspass player got straight for.
No tinted glasses on or connections to Killucan or Kinnegad calling it as I see it
Cant wait for the last round games to be played."
Funny you saw that because he actually passed the ball away before this happened so had no ball in one hand.
Did you notice the earlier strikes from the kinnegad player in question here?

CasKD (Westmeath) - Posts: 38 - 10/08/2023 17:44:22    2499966

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Replying To dec:  "I am missing something here, my understanding is that head to head would be used first then scoring difference, maybe i am wrong"
It's explained in this weeks Examiner. Head to head for 2 teams. Scoring difference between the teams involved for more than 2 teams. Scoring difference in matches involving other teams not on the same points will not be included.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1031 - 10/08/2023 17:58:50    2499969

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Replying To dec:  "ok, so in section B, if shamrocks beat Moate or if Moate beat Shamrocks, Shandonagh beat Tang and Athlone beat Garrycastle, then the 3 teams will all be on 6 points meaning the team with the best scoring average will qualify for the quarter final?"
Best scoring average in games between the 3 teams involved only.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1031 - 10/08/2023 18:01:14    2499970

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Replying To Wmeath2:  "As another poster posted a few days ago, rule 6.21 changed this year. If three teams are level the results in the games only between those three teams determine who qualifies, then score difference between those three teams, etc. this is different to previous years where score difference overall determines who qualified."
That's not what it says in the Examiner. It doesn't mention results between 3 teams just scoring difference.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1031 - 10/08/2023 18:04:48    2499972

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Replying To iarmhi_an_mhaith:  "Specifically the best scoring average based on the games played between the 3 teams tied, not the overall table.

No hurling or football fixtures up for this weekend, is either going to take place?"
couple of rearranged junior games on Friday evening, Kilbeggan v St Josephs and Rosemount v Loughnavalley

martyW (Westmeath) - Posts: 333 - 10/08/2023 19:30:26    2499984

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Here's how I see the two groups finishing and potential finish ti the championship as a result.

1. Lomans
2. Kinnegad
3. Caulry
4. Tyrellspass

1. Tang
2. Shamrocks

Q-Final
1.Tang Vs Tyrellspass
2. Shamrocks Vs Caulry

Semi Final
1. Lomans Vs Tyrellspass
2. Kinnegad Vs Caulry

Final
1. Lomans Vs Caulry

My Caulry prediction to beat St. Lomans last weekend was a non runner to be fair, I didn't think Shane Curran would pull that stroke, but ultimately, the championship is weak outside of St. Lomans and I'm throwing Caulry in the mix to get to a final.

As regards a winner, St. Lomans won't be touched.

Kinnegad have stumbled too early now in the championship and the more I see of them, it's clear that, although they have improved, they really are nowhere near the level it takes to win this 2023 championship, or even get to the final.

Edman78 (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 10/08/2023 20:17:24    2499990

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Replying To Wmeath2:  "As another poster posted a few days ago, rule 6.21 changed this year. If three teams are level the results in the games only between those three teams determine who qualifies, then score difference between those three teams, etc. this is different to previous years where score difference overall determines who qualified."
Having looked up the rule, what I previously said and Examiner said were wrong and you are correct.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1031 - 10/08/2023 22:55:34    2500003

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Replying To iarmhi_an_mhaith:  "Specifically the best scoring average based on the games played between the 3 teams tied, not the overall table.

No hurling or football fixtures up for this weekend, is either going to take place?"
Reaffirms my thoughts re this forum, half the people on here have no clue as though what goes on in the county. I'm wondering are these people in nursing homes or what. It was known 6 months ago that there was no fixtures during the Fleadh.

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 596 - 11/08/2023 02:55:19    2500007

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