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Replying To realdub:  "The league final is unnecessary, Derry should be champions as it stands. I'd prefer not to risk players for these type of games but we probably have enough to fringe players to give Derry a game."
I would disagree. Really looking forward to it. We all know the format so no winner until the league final. Play fringe players and I fancy Derry strongly. Play a full team and I would give the Dubs the nod.

Also for a team like, Leitrim, for example- they will take a big crowd to Croke Park and a league final appearance will be huge for that county. For Derry it's a chance to win silverware and in the Division three final another good game that may have an effect on qualifying for Sam. I like the league finals and can't wait for next week.

Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 174 - 24/03/2024 16:50:37    2533172

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Replying To realdub:  "No it didn't do that team any harm at all, and it was then that other counties started putting importantance on the league.
Just because we were winning both at the time they came to the conclusion that winning the league was a big stepping stone to AI success.
Not so, last year being a good example."
Last year was just an anomaly realdub. The 2 best teams in the country were just hiding out in the long grass of div 2. They've been found out now repeating their pairing in Div 1 final this year. ;-) has that ever happened before?

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 204 - 24/03/2024 16:58:12    2533182

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Replying To Onion_Sack:  "Last year was just an anomaly realdub. The 2 best teams in the country were just hiding out in the long grass of div 2. They've been found out now repeating their pairing in Div 1 final this year. ;-) has that ever happened before?"
A good question, I doubt it!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8610 - 24/03/2024 17:05:32    2533184

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Replying To Jazzyjeff:  "I would disagree. Really looking forward to it. We all know the format so no winner until the league final. Play fringe players and I fancy Derry strongly. Play a full team and I would give the Dubs the nod.

Also for a team like, Leitrim, for example- they will take a big crowd to Croke Park and a league final appearance will be huge for that county. For Derry it's a chance to win silverware and in the Division three final another good game that may have an effect on qualifying for Sam. I like the league finals and can't wait for next week."
Yeh it's true for the less successful counties but I still think a league is a league.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8610 - 24/03/2024 17:13:58    2533191

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Big win for the Dubs today.
Dublin 5-18
Tyrone 0-12

9 different scorers and Collie top scoring with 2-03.
Delighted to see Lorcan score 1-02.
Con with another 4pts.

We were missing quite a few today, 2 of which Dessie has confirmed will be back again this year for the Championship - Clucko and Mick Fitz.
We were also missing Lee Gannon, Jack McCaffrey, John Small, James McCarthy, Cormac Costello, and Paddy Small.

Great to see the new lads doing so well.

And to put 5 past Morgan was pleasing.

Massive game next Sun v Derry, who are sure to be at full strength for the League Final.
It will be a massive test for our lads who could be missing 8 regulars. Either way, exactly the test you need before Championship begins.

I am sure Derry will also want to be laying down a marker.

Expecting a big crowd with a very interesting double header in Croker.

Either way, this league campaign has mostly been excellent for Dublin, especially after losing the first 2 games.

And hopefully the missing 8 will be back very soon.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3755 - 24/03/2024 20:33:53    2533308

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Replying To realdub:  "The league final is unnecessary, Derry should be champions as it stands. I'd prefer not to risk players for these type of games but we probably have enough to fringe players to give Derry a game."
Agree a league is supposed to a league

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4906 - 24/03/2024 20:52:56    2533318

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Derry won't be anything at near full throttle next week. Harte knows they are a mile off Dublin and last thing he needs is,a hammering of a full strength team going into Ulster.

Dublin will win pulling up either way. Next week and later on if that happens.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2721 - 24/03/2024 20:58:55    2533327

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Odds cut from 5/2 to 15/8. Not a fan of ante post generally but 16 weeks is not that long to wait for sure thing.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2721 - 24/03/2024 21:26:39    2533340

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Odds cut from 5/2 to 15/8. Not a fan of ante post generally but 16 weeks is not that long to wait for sure thing."
Dublin and Kerry are joint favourites with a few bookies. Kerry 9/4 with others.

Kerry will improve massively imo.
They will be delighted to go in with not a lot of hype this year on the team.

11/2 Derry

Anything can happen between now and then.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3755 - 24/03/2024 21:50:03    2533349

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Derry won't be anything at near full throttle next week. Harte knows they are a mile off Dublin and last thing he needs is,a hammering of a full strength team going into Ulster.

Dublin will win pulling up either way. Next week and later on if that happens."
I think Dessie will continue to give the new or younger lads, a run out in the league final.

He defo won't be showing his full bag of tricks either.

Most teams keeping their cards close to their chest so far.

But compared to last season, the Dubs are in a better position than 12 months ago, both in terms of league position and squad depth. But it is only March, so a long way to go yet, and lots to improve on.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3755 - 24/03/2024 21:58:08    2533355

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Replying To Fionn:  "Dublin and Kerry are joint favourites with a few bookies. Kerry 9/4 with others.

Kerry will improve massively imo.
They will be delighted to go in with not a lot of hype this year on the team.

11/2 Derry

Anything can happen between now and then."
No bookie has Kerry as joint favourites now. PP cut Dublin to 13/8 as some of us topped up the 15/8 mentioned above. . 11/8 with Boyles.

Dublin 1/2 to beat Derry on Sunday is also a great bet.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2721 - 25/03/2024 14:01:18    2533575

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Dublin now 7/4 favourites in PP.Then Kerry at 9/4 and Derry at 11/2.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3702 - 25/03/2024 20:02:52    2533723

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Replying To realdub:  "Very worrying from a Tyrone perspective"
Just as worrying for every other county!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 25/03/2024 21:35:37    2533759

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Looking forward to the final, Dubs dud very well reaching it considering the start they had.

It was a successful league campaign, be nice to see a bit of tin off the back of it.

Think it all depends how Derry see this game, its the third league final in the last 10 years that Derry v Dublin have faced off in a league final.

Dubs have won the last two comfortably but Derry didn't seem fully up for those last two games, Dublin won comfortably.

Think it's the same again here, will all depend how Derry see this game and the application they put into it, I've a feeling Harte will have them very well prepared for this one, I've great time personally for Derry, both as a county and their county supporters, great city, top people.

May the best team win, looking forward to it

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20614 - 29/03/2024 10:47:24    2534432

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Be interesting to see what teams are named. Dublin have no constraints as won't have another serious encounter until group stage. Derry be in the think of it soon, but will win Ulster relatively comfortably I think.

Vibes from Derry - agus bhí Mark Harte ag caint faoi seo ar RnaG inné - are that Mickey will field a strong team. Injuries be main concern but that applies to any team and I imagine training is no pillow fight.

Good teams, and Derry are one of top 3 , tend not to pull their punches and Derry are in similar zone to Dublin now. Full of confidence and not fearing anyone. Still think Dublin will win but could be a preview of possibly bigger game later in year, and with similar intensity.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2721 - 30/03/2024 08:14:20    2534563

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Derry deserved their win today imo.
I was on the Hill and thought the bossed proceedings.

We had 14 scorers over the course of the match but I felt Derry did a good job on us tbf.

I think this might stop the hype that was snowballing about the Dubs this year. And that is a good thing imo.
It gives our players something to think about and Dessie & the back room team have a lot of work to do between now and Championship. Maybe that is the one positive we can take out of a negative result.

The amount of turnovers we conceded and the kick out success rate was shocking. I don't fully blame Evan on it as there were many times when he actually had no runners to aim at. And credit to Derry for that also.

But definitely a lot of tweaks to make for the Dubs.
And hopefully with all the missing players back again, we can improve.

Overall, disappointed but Derry defo needed this victory more than us. They laid down a marker
We need improve quite a bit imo.

Well done Derry.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3755 - 31/03/2024 21:13:29    2534877

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Yes Derry were excellent. I'm not too despondent I have to say, might be exactly what we needed heading into the championship.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8610 - 31/03/2024 21:33:43    2534883

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Replying To realdub:  "Yes Derry were excellent. I'm not too despondent I have to say, might be exactly what we needed heading into the championship."
Just heard Dessie's post match interview.
Nail on the head.
Lots of work to do and improvements required.
Lethargic for long spells pretty much was my view of it also.

Meath or Longford next up in a couple of weeks.
This match will certainly stand to us imo.

Some of the newbies in their 1st national final. Some did very well, while some of the regulars not so well.
All in all, lots to assess and tweak.

This result will ensure our feet are firmly on the ground in 2 weeks time. Defo won't be getting ahead of ourselves, which a win today could have caused.

Think Meath will account for Longford with a bit to spare, but all eyes on that next.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3755 - 31/03/2024 21:53:37    2534892

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Replying To realdub:  "Yes Derry were excellent. I'm not too despondent I have to say, might be exactly what we needed heading into the championship."
Exactly and as Dessie said:-
"Obviously we're disappointed with the result & how we played for periods of that game. We knew we'd get a big examination today- and ultimately we now know where we're truly at..."


A lot of people got ahead of themselves before this game. Similar to the England v Ireland rugby game in many aspects.
I think this defeat could hopefully be a blessing in disguise. Time will tell and 2 weeks time will hopefully see a big improvement….

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 3755 - 31/03/2024 22:24:55    2534904

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Derry won't be anything at near full throttle next week. Harte knows they are a mile off Dublin and last thing he needs is,a hammering of a full strength team going into Ulster.

Dublin will win pulling up either way. Next week and later on if that happens."
You didn't get much correct with that prediction

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1696 - 31/03/2024 23:16:21    2534911

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