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Disgraceful decision by Johnny Murphy to give Noel McGrath a red card, and no marks at all to the Ballygunner player who started the whole thing and then made a meal of a shoulder charge. Not the first time this referee has been very quick to dismiss a Tipperary player.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 12/12/2021 15:48:34    2392557

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I'd be in full agreement,it's a disgraceful decision..he shouldn't be ref anyway with limerick club still in competition..I've seen him in limerick and he doesn't endear himself to anyone...with that being a suppose red card then all players better watch themselves in future..hope bsllulygunner hurler is very proud of himself to..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2224 - 12/12/2021 16:03:53    2392560

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I'd be in full agreement,it's a disgraceful decision..he shouldn't be ref anyway with limerick club still in competition..I've seen him in limerick and he doesn't endear himself to anyone...with that being a suppose red card then all players better watch themselves in future..hope bsllulygunner hurler is very proud of himself to.."
Yeah. I fancied Ballygunner from the outset to win Munster, and maybe the All-Ireland, and wouldn't have begrudged it to them. However, after today, when they struggled to get over an exhausted and understrength Loiughmore, I would have second thoughts. Indeed, after the antics of some of their players today I'd prefer to see Kilmallock win the Munster final.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 12/12/2021 16:59:17    2392569

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Couldn't agree more. Disgrace, players doing their best in dreadful conditions. John McGrath's second yellow was questionable also. A tap on the hand and another player playing to have a man sent off. This is a real poblem in the GAA.

gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 12/12/2021 17:11:39    2392574

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How many matchs has Johnny Murphy ruined ? As a limerick man it's an embarrassment. Who is meant to be monitoring refereeing standards ??

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 677 - 12/12/2021 17:15:30    2392575

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Replying To midlands:  "Disgraceful decision by Johnny Murphy to give Noel McGrath a red card, and no marks at all to the Ballygunner player who started the whole thing and then made a meal of a shoulder charge. Not the first time this referee has been very quick to dismiss a Tipperary player."
The players had their backs to the linesman and he must have just assumed Noel McGrath followed through with the hurley, lazy poor officiating.
The theatrics for John McGraths second yellow/red by a certain full back was shameful to watch.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 12/12/2021 17:19:25    2392576

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Sending off for Noel was a joke but it's easy to blame Murphy. The decision was made by the linesman. The behaviour of the ballygunner players was embarrassing in both instances. However, the two McGraths should never have given the referee a decision to make. The ref is getting slated in Tipp but after the first red card he gave a large number of very soft frees to loughmore.

Having said that, Loughmore can hold their heads high. To battle like they did on the 19th weekend in a row and extra time last weekend is unbelievable. What a bunch of men.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 12/12/2021 17:23:20    2392578

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Congrats to ballygunner and the match officials on a great win today..thanks be to god he can't do the final..there must also be a great acting school in ballygunner,is GAA people are always giving out about players diving in soccer well we saw it today in hurling and it was very embarassing for players involved..also keeper and another player running to umpire,oh god help us..of course a few of these same players have done it on inter county scene to so they are used to it..red cards will probably be rescinded but to late now..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2224 - 12/12/2021 17:26:41    2392580

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Replying To Bon:  "The players had their backs to the linesman and he must have just assumed Noel McGrath followed through with the hurley, lazy poor officiating.
The theatrics for John McGraths second yellow/red by a certain full back was shameful to watch."
Shameful is the word. I would love to see a rule brought in to punish play acting. It is becoming a terrible blight in the game. There wasnt a dirty stroke in that match today and it's terrible that the game was ruined by poor officiating.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 12/12/2021 18:06:49    2392588

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Sending off for Noel was a joke but it's easy to blame Murphy. The decision was made by the linesman. The behaviour of the ballygunner players was embarrassing in both instances. However, the two McGraths should never have given the referee a decision to make. The ref is getting slated in Tipp but after the first red card he gave a large number of very soft frees to loughmore.

Having said that, Loughmore can hold their heads high. To battle like they did on the 19th weekend in a row and extra time last weekend is unbelievable. What a bunch of men."
Mighty men indeed! It's very unfair on players who have trained so hard and who have played so much to be dismissed in such a cruel manner. Very poor officiating and no apparent understanding of what it's like to play in such atrocious conditions. Why the GAA won't allow TMO is incomprehensible.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1813 - 12/12/2021 18:37:24    2392591

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Loughmore deserve credit for their season. The reality is they were beaten by the better team today. Ballygunner missed a penalty, one of the best keepers in Ireland made unbelievable stops and Hutchison head and shoulders above anyone else on the field.
With regards the sending offs. I got ripped for saying that frontal charges should be aloud. McGrath hit an unsuspecting player frontal in retaliation with no play. His choice. A yellow would be sufficient. Coughlan's hand is being X-Rayed. I hate fakers also but both of these players were injured in these cases should not be vilified and shamed. There were players on this Loughmore who played out of their skin and the McGrath's should be ashamed for letting them down. Blame the correct people.
The ref was not good but it could be equally said that Hutchison could have had two more penalties awarded to him. It was obvious he was trying to even it up after the first red.
The vitriol on here towards Ballygunner and Waterford is shameful but not unexpected I suppose.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 12/12/2021 18:44:32    2392594

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Replying To Canuck:  "Loughmore deserve credit for their season. The reality is they were beaten by the better team today. Ballygunner missed a penalty, one of the best keepers in Ireland made unbelievable stops and Hutchison head and shoulders above anyone else on the field.
With regards the sending offs. I got ripped for saying that frontal charges should be aloud. McGrath hit an unsuspecting player frontal in retaliation with no play. His choice. A yellow would be sufficient. Coughlan's hand is being X-Rayed. I hate fakers also but both of these players were injured in these cases should not be vilified and shamed. There were players on this Loughmore who played out of their skin and the McGrath's should be ashamed for letting them down. Blame the correct people.
The ref was not good but it could be equally said that Hutchison could have had two more penalties awarded to him. It was obvious he was trying to even it up after the first red.
The vitriol on here towards Ballygunner and Waterford is shameful but not unexpected I suppose."
McGraths should be ashamed??? Are you saying that any player who is wrongly sent off should be ashamed? Ridiculous! The shame is on the officials, but the over-reacting of "injured" players doesn't help. I would have loved to see Ballygunner win Munster and All-Ireland but after today I'd prefer to see Kilmallock bring further glory to Limerick.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 545 - 12/12/2021 19:15:22    2392597

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Replying To Canuck:  "Loughmore deserve credit for their season. The reality is they were beaten by the better team today. Ballygunner missed a penalty, one of the best keepers in Ireland made unbelievable stops and Hutchison head and shoulders above anyone else on the field.
With regards the sending offs. I got ripped for saying that frontal charges should be aloud. McGrath hit an unsuspecting player frontal in retaliation with no play. His choice. A yellow would be sufficient. Coughlan's hand is being X-Rayed. I hate fakers also but both of these players were injured in these cases should not be vilified and shamed. There were players on this Loughmore who played out of their skin and the McGrath's should be ashamed for letting them down. Blame the correct people.
The ref was not good but it could be equally said that Hutchison could have had two more penalties awarded to him. It was obvious he was trying to even it up after the first red.
The vitriol on here towards Ballygunner and Waterford is shameful but not unexpected I suppose."
Noel McGrath got shafted today plain and simple. Nobody can deny that. Just got flaked by a guy and hit him a shunt on the way back, yellow card max by a long stretch. These Mickey mouse type decisions are going on constantly in GAA circles.
If I was the loughmore camp I'd be very aggrieved. Ballygunner may have won but they were just marginally the better team. But at the end of the day that's all that matters.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1913 - 12/12/2021 19:31:26    2392604

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Canuck have a look back at what led to first sending off,linesman said nothing about a belt on mc grath..it's amazing the linesman on other side of field wasn't asked as he should have had the better view..I have mentioned about said ref before even at club level here he isn't a favorite of either player or supporter..he seems to have great support in munster council and croke park..you also say the 2 boys should be ashamed,what about the antics of ballygunner players,is that acceptable..running to officials to get players sent off..on a day like today surely officials should be asked what they saw..it's now time for a ref spokesperson to xplain decisions made..all I can say is well done loughmore and a pity the way the year ended..why now are a lot of games being decided by some awful decisions..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2224 - 12/12/2021 19:43:08    2392607

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Replying To baire:  "Mighty men indeed! It's very unfair on players who have trained so hard and who have played so much to be dismissed in such a cruel manner. Very poor officiating and no apparent understanding of what it's like to play in such atrocious conditions. Why the GAA won't allow TMO is incomprehensible."
Why the GAA won't allow TMO is incomprehensible.?

What is TMO? And how does it work?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 12/12/2021 19:44:59    2392608

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Here is a major part of the problem. People will not accept when their own players are in the wrong. He is getting an X-Ray but had no problem finishing out the match. Noel McGrath took one step and hit him with his shoulder. He went down like a ton of bricks yet busted through 2 and 3 men all day long. I always contend every match isn't or shouldn't be reffed the same. When you get to these stages of championships there is a tremendous amount on the line and reffs should accept this and call the match accordingly. Intensity is much higher then early stages of the season and players should be given a bit of leeway. Unless a player deliberately goes to injure another player the straight red card should not be shown. Continuous loose play with a hurl or dangerous play should be 2 yellows and then a red after the 2nd yellow.

gatha (Kilkenny) - Posts: 318 - 12/12/2021 20:17:44    2392610

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "Congrats to ballygunner and the match officials on a great win today..thanks be to god he can't do the final..there must also be a great acting school in ballygunner,is GAA people are always giving out about players diving in soccer well we saw it today in hurling and it was very embarassing for players involved..also keeper and another player running to umpire,oh god help us..of course a few of these same players have done it on inter county scene to so they are used to it..red cards will probably be rescinded but to late now.."
How shameful of you to talk about Waterford county players like this. Okay lets discuss the Waterford county players. Did you see any of the two senior Mahony's involved in any fracas today. They led their two younger siblings and team by example. If you want a hero look at Philip. Two broken legs this year and stared. 36 year former county great Shane Sullivan was not pulling on anyone's hands. Loughmore deserve plaudits for being there today but somehow or other the intent was to bully Ballygunner and it did not work. Noel McGrath might not throw his weight around if it was Austin Gleeson or someone else. Leavey is a young kid starting out. Ref or no ref the McGrath's plotted their own destiny today. Skill won out and if it were a dry sod it would have been a blow out.
You In Limerick like us knows how difficult it was to get to the top at club or county against the elite counties. If Ballygunner are beaten by Kilmallock I hope they win it all. The same way as I will root for Limerick if we can not win. I have never vilified Limerick's player in any situation against us or anyone else and there has been plenty of them. I wonder are ye beginning to smell yereself's a bit ? The likes of Oldtourman on here does not.
I am not a Ballygunner local supporter but they can be proud of where they have come from and we in Waterford are proud of our players. Long ago we gave up blaming others when we don't succeed.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 12/12/2021 20:20:03    2392611

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How is play acting a blight on the game? Name other instances of play acting? Otherwise stop making nonsensical statements

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1502 - 12/12/2021 20:22:58    2392612

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Replying To OpenStand:  "How many matchs has Johnny Murphy ruined ? As a limerick man it's an embarrassment. Who is meant to be monitoring refereeing standards ??"
He does like to send off the big names in games

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 12/12/2021 21:43:50    2392620

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "Why the GAA won't allow TMO is incomprehensible.?

What is TMO? And how does it work?"
TMO, is a Television Match Official. There would be an official who'd look at critical incidents on a tv screen and he'd communicate what he'd seen into the ref's ear piece. Those of us who watched the game on TG4 today could see clearly that Noel McGrath shouldn't have been red carded. John's slap looked innocuous as well. The TMO could have looked at both incidents from different angles and would have a clearer view of what happened.
The GAA claims it would slow the game but sure the game had stopped anyway with fellas lying on the ground.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1813 - 12/12/2021 21:48:00    2392622

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