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Money Grabbing Gareth Brooks

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Everyone knew the number of votes it took to change things so why complain now. Onwards and upwards for the qualifiers. Now that's what I believe anyway."
16 Counties (as well as the 4 Provincial Champions) won't be partaking in the Qualifiers.
As for Brooks hopefully the GAA make a decent amount of €€€s.
Hopefully those who like his stuff enjoy the Concerts and those who don't like his stuff ignore it and him as usual

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 77 - 26/11/2021 15:35:05    2390916

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "16 Counties (as well as the 4 Provincial Champions) won't be partaking in the Qualifiers.
As for Brooks hopefully the GAA make a decent amount of €€€s.
Hopefully those who like his stuff enjoy the Concerts and those who don't like his stuff ignore it and him as usual"
I would have thought 28 teams get a wack at the qualifiers. I didn't spend that much time at school so I could be wrong.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1018 - 26/11/2021 16:21:19    2390921

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Good man Garret

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1074 - 26/11/2021 19:56:04    2390935

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He's just goin round the world in his pickup truck….;)

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4188 - 26/11/2021 21:14:40    2390939

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Replying To Saynothing:  "He could change the words in one of his songs to" friends in high places. Aiken family greedy also."
True :-)

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 13938 - 26/11/2021 21:26:02    2390941

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Replying To Saynothing:  "I would have thought 28 teams get a wack at the qualifiers. I didn't spend that much time at school so I could be wrong."
28 don't!

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 77 - 27/11/2021 10:29:30    2390944

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "28 don't!"
Ye could be right, "27 do"

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 1018 - 27/11/2021 12:21:40    2390952

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Replying To Saynothing:  "I would have thought 28 teams get a wack at the qualifiers. I didn't spend that much time at school so I could be wrong."
Your first sentence is wrong. Your second one is accurate, clearly transparent, and correct.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 780 - 27/11/2021 14:08:22    2390958

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Replying To jacktheboy:  "Great to see Brooks in Croke Park, hope he fills five dates, a winner for everyone including the GAA but especially the Dublin Economy, hotels, pubs shops etc, **** the few small minded begrudges."
Very easy not to be a small minded begrudge when you don't live in the vicinity and don't have to put up with the inconvenience

Liffeylad (Dublin) - Posts: 58 - 27/11/2021 19:35:40    2390989

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Gareth Brooks is providing what many people want to see, don't see what he is possibly doing wrong.
I'm not a Gareth Brooks fan but many are, it will be a great occasion for them.
Croke park is the obvious venue for big capacity shows, it should be used when the demand is there. A concert like that (or for U2 or another act) will bring a lot jot to the people who go.
A fair bit of the money raised will ultimately go back to promoting/ developing Gaelic games.
In terms of complaints that these shows cause too much disruption in the area, I always find this completely bizarre, there has been a stadium there for nearly a century and a half, long before most of the houses (if there is old houses there from the time before the stadium was there they have likely been bought/ sold several times since the stadium was established), if you buy/ rent a house in the vicinity of a stadium then don't complain of inconveniences because the stadium is being used."
I love how easy people make it sound. If you don't like it sell up and move. My home has been in the family for over 90 years and has been passed down through generations. Croke Park was originally built as a sports stadium not a concert arena. Local people objected to the redevelopment because they knew what would happen. It should never have built in a residential area

Liffeylad (Dublin) - Posts: 58 - 27/11/2021 19:40:21    2390992

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Replying To Liffeylad:  "I love how easy people make it sound. If you don't like it sell up and move. My home has been in the family for over 90 years and has been passed down through generations. Croke Park was originally built as a sports stadium not a concert arena. Local people objected to the redevelopment because they knew what would happen. It should never have built in a residential area"
Your house has been in your family a long time but Croke Park was there for much longer. Large outdoor sport venues the world over have always been used for gatherings outside of the particular sport they are most associated with, be it religious gatherings, exhibition events, music events, rallies etc., if you live in an area with a large sports venue events taking place this is just part and parcel of what happens there, deal with it, it doesn't happen every day. I know you wouldn't like hearing it but it's actually true to say if you don't like the disruption of the few days a year when there are concerts on you could sell up and move if it really bothers you that much (by the way I would say the same thing to someone in a rural area like where I live and then complained that farmers sometimes spread slurry on their land, it is just part and parcel of living here).
We also have to remember, which often gets lost, not all locals are against concerts taking place in Croke park, my only experience of talking to a local about this before a match (see a previous post of mine) regarding when the previous Brooks concerts were cancelled was that he lost a lot of money selling food when they were cancelled and the area had lost out on money being brought in to it.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1006 - 28/11/2021 09:56:31    2391014

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Replying To Liffeylad:  "I love how easy people make it sound. If you don't like it sell up and move. My home has been in the family for over 90 years and has been passed down through generations. Croke Park was originally built as a sports stadium not a concert arena. Local people objected to the redevelopment because they knew what would happen. It should never have built in a residential area"
As a resident of the area around Croker I totally disagree that it should never have been redeveloped in situ.

I just don't think they should take the p*** when it comes to concerts. 5 sell out shows in quick succession is disrespectful to the local community.

Overall Croke Pk is a plus for the community imo.

Concerts are a lot more disruptive than matches. I've been involved in clean ups both after matches and after concerts. Community clean ups after concerts are, quite frankly, disgusting. Vomit and human excrement to be found right outside people's front door

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13408 - 28/11/2021 10:00:00    2391016

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "Your house has been in your family a long time but Croke Park was there for much longer. Large outdoor sport venues the world over have always been used for gatherings outside of the particular sport they are most associated with, be it religious gatherings, exhibition events, music events, rallies etc., if you live in an area with a large sports venue events taking place this is just part and parcel of what happens there, deal with it, it doesn't happen every day. I know you wouldn't like hearing it but it's actually true to say if you don't like the disruption of the few days a year when there are concerts on you could sell up and move if it really bothers you that much (by the way I would say the same thing to someone in a rural area like where I live and then complained that farmers sometimes spread slurry on their land, it is just part and parcel of living here).
We also have to remember, which often gets lost, not all locals are against concerts taking place in Croke park, my only experience of talking to a local about this before a match (see a previous post of mine) regarding when the previous Brooks concerts were cancelled was that he lost a lot of money selling food when they were cancelled and the area had lost out on money being brought in to it."
Do you know what you're dead right. We can just tell my 86 year old mother who has alzheimers that we are moving her out of the only home she has ever known and that we are moving to Meath. Now she might have to put up with the smell of slurry but on the bright side at least we will be able to get her to her hospital appointments that happen to be when Garth Brooks concert is on. Thanks a million for your advice don't know what we would have done without it.

Liffeylad (Dublin) - Posts: 58 - 28/11/2021 12:38:29    2391024

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A gentle reminder.

A residents group representing people who live near Croke Park has branded the move to let Garth Brooks play five concerts there as "unacceptable".
The US country singer was originally scheduled to play two gigs at the GAA stadium in 2022.
But it was announced on Thursday morning that Brooks would play three extra dates.
It follows a similar row in 2014 which led to Brooks refusing to play any Dublin concerts at all.
Brooks said he cannot wait to play the gigs this time around.
Colm Stephens from Clonliffe and Croke Park Area Residents Association said An Bord Pleanála (Ireland's independent planning body) previously imposed a cap of three concerts and special events a year at Croke Park.

Mr Stephens told the BBC's Evening Extra that local people had previously been made aware of seven concerts scheduled to take place in Croke Park in 2022 but they only found out on Thursday that five would be Garth Brooks.
He said: "We voiced our objection long ago and have continued over many years.
"We've objected to the breaking of the cap of three concerts that was imposed when planning permission for the stadium was awarded back in the 1990s by the planning board."

Mr Stephens said Dublin City Council and Croke Park had granted permission for the four extra special events above the cap.
Ed Sheeran will also be playing two concerts at the stadium in April 2022


At a time when social distancing is in high demand because of Covid 19 and other variants Croke park seem to dismiss with ease these factors along with residents in and around Croke Park of their everyday rights including common decency. Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area, I will admit terms and conditions were signed up to but apparently they have been conveniently kicked into touch.

Next year there may very well be 9 concerts, the following year 10 or 12 etc, etc, etc.
The legally binding contract that was signed up to and rubber stamped by Croke Park on an agreed cap on concerts is now rendered useless, how convenient.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2494 - 28/11/2021 13:31:56    2391026

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Replying To supersub15:  "A gentle reminder.

A residents group representing people who live near Croke Park has branded the move to let Garth Brooks play five concerts there as "unacceptable".
The US country singer was originally scheduled to play two gigs at the GAA stadium in 2022.
But it was announced on Thursday morning that Brooks would play three extra dates.
It follows a similar row in 2014 which led to Brooks refusing to play any Dublin concerts at all.
Brooks said he cannot wait to play the gigs this time around.
Colm Stephens from Clonliffe and Croke Park Area Residents Association said An Bord Pleanála (Ireland's independent planning body) previously imposed a cap of three concerts and special events a year at Croke Park.

Mr Stephens told the BBC's Evening Extra that local people had previously been made aware of seven concerts scheduled to take place in Croke Park in 2022 but they only found out on Thursday that five would be Garth Brooks.
He said: "We voiced our objection long ago and have continued over many years.
"We've objected to the breaking of the cap of three concerts that was imposed when planning permission for the stadium was awarded back in the 1990s by the planning board."

Mr Stephens said Dublin City Council and Croke Park had granted permission for the four extra special events above the cap.
Ed Sheeran will also be playing two concerts at the stadium in April 2022


At a time when social distancing is in high demand because of Covid 19 and other variants Croke park seem to dismiss with ease these factors along with residents in and around Croke Park of their everyday rights including common decency. Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area, I will admit terms and conditions were signed up to but apparently they have been conveniently kicked into touch.

Next year there may very well be 9 concerts, the following year 10 or 12 etc, etc, etc.
The legally binding contract that was signed up to and rubber stamped by Croke Park on an agreed cap on concerts is now rendered useless, how convenient.
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'Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area', what a cheek, I get sick of hearing this attitude that for any event Croke Park has to bow and scrape to the section of people living in the area who are against events happening there. Croke Park has been there for far longer than most of the houses.
He talks about the rebuild as if it was much bigger than before, there was a time pre the 1990's rebuild that the capacity was greater than the current 80k, the attendance record is over 90k.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1006 - 28/11/2021 20:49:48    2391058

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "
Replying To supersub15:  "A gentle reminder.

A residents group representing people who live near Croke Park has branded the move to let Garth Brooks play five concerts there as "unacceptable".
The US country singer was originally scheduled to play two gigs at the GAA stadium in 2022.
But it was announced on Thursday morning that Brooks would play three extra dates.
It follows a similar row in 2014 which led to Brooks refusing to play any Dublin concerts at all.
Brooks said he cannot wait to play the gigs this time around.
Colm Stephens from Clonliffe and Croke Park Area Residents Association said An Bord Pleanála (Ireland's independent planning body) previously imposed a cap of three concerts and special events a year at Croke Park.

Mr Stephens told the BBC's Evening Extra that local people had previously been made aware of seven concerts scheduled to take place in Croke Park in 2022 but they only found out on Thursday that five would be Garth Brooks.
He said: "We voiced our objection long ago and have continued over many years.
"We've objected to the breaking of the cap of three concerts that was imposed when planning permission for the stadium was awarded back in the 1990s by the planning board."

Mr Stephens said Dublin City Council and Croke Park had granted permission for the four extra special events above the cap.
Ed Sheeran will also be playing two concerts at the stadium in April 2022


At a time when social distancing is in high demand because of Covid 19 and other variants Croke park seem to dismiss with ease these factors along with residents in and around Croke Park of their everyday rights including common decency. Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area, I will admit terms and conditions were signed up to but apparently they have been conveniently kicked into touch.

Next year there may very well be 9 concerts, the following year 10 or 12 etc, etc, etc.
The legally binding contract that was signed up to and rubber stamped by Croke Park on an agreed cap on concerts is now rendered useless, how convenient.
"
'Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area', what a cheek, I get sick of hearing this attitude that for any event Croke Park has to bow and scrape to the section of people living in the area who are against events happening there. Croke Park has been there for far longer than most of the houses.
He talks about the rebuild as if it was much bigger than before, there was a time pre the 1990's rebuild that the capacity was greater than the current 80k, the attendance record is over 90k."
From your posts I really sense that you fear the concerts may be cancelled because of the residents objections. Well I hope you got your tickets to Garth and I hope you have a great day as let's face it it's a long time since anybody from Meath had a good time in Croke Park

Liffeylad (Dublin) - Posts: 58 - 29/11/2021 11:37:22    2391096

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Replying To Liffeylad:  "
Replying To bdbuddah:  "[quote=supersub15:  "A gentle reminder.

A residents group representing people who live near Croke Park has branded the move to let Garth Brooks play five concerts there as "unacceptable".
The US country singer was originally scheduled to play two gigs at the GAA stadium in 2022.
But it was announced on Thursday morning that Brooks would play three extra dates.
It follows a similar row in 2014 which led to Brooks refusing to play any Dublin concerts at all.
Brooks said he cannot wait to play the gigs this time around.
Colm Stephens from Clonliffe and Croke Park Area Residents Association said An Bord Pleanála (Ireland's independent planning body) previously imposed a cap of three concerts and special events a year at Croke Park.

Mr Stephens told the BBC's Evening Extra that local people had previously been made aware of seven concerts scheduled to take place in Croke Park in 2022 but they only found out on Thursday that five would be Garth Brooks.
He said: "We voiced our objection long ago and have continued over many years.
"We've objected to the breaking of the cap of three concerts that was imposed when planning permission for the stadium was awarded back in the 1990s by the planning board."

Mr Stephens said Dublin City Council and Croke Park had granted permission for the four extra special events above the cap.
Ed Sheeran will also be playing two concerts at the stadium in April 2022


At a time when social distancing is in high demand because of Covid 19 and other variants Croke park seem to dismiss with ease these factors along with residents in and around Croke Park of their everyday rights including common decency. Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area, I will admit terms and conditions were signed up to but apparently they have been conveniently kicked into touch.

Next year there may very well be 9 concerts, the following year 10 or 12 etc, etc, etc.
The legally binding contract that was signed up to and rubber stamped by Croke Park on an agreed cap on concerts is now rendered useless, how convenient.
"
'Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area', what a cheek, I get sick of hearing this attitude that for any event Croke Park has to bow and scrape to the section of people living in the area who are against events happening there. Croke Park has been there for far longer than most of the houses.
He talks about the rebuild as if it was much bigger than before, there was a time pre the 1990's rebuild that the capacity was greater than the current 80k, the attendance record is over 90k."
From your posts I really sense that you fear the concerts may be cancelled because of the residents objections. Well I hope you got your tickets to Garth and I hope you have a great day as let's face it it's a long time since anybody from Meath had a good time in Croke Park"]It's highly unlikely at this stage the concerts will be cancelled due objections by some locals, if they end up not going ahead now it will be more likely it will be that Covid is still with us strongly with us by the time they come around.
I'm actually not into Garth Brooks music so will not be at any of his shows.
I have been at a few concerts in Croker down the years. One U2 concert I was at a few years ago was really great. It also complied with conditions on its licence and finished before 11. Even though it complied with its conditions (and there was only 3 concerts that year) afterwards we were delayed after we exited the Hogan stand as some people protesting the concert tried to block the roadway exit route.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1006 - 29/11/2021 16:21:08    2391137

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "
Replying To Liffeylad:  "[quote=bdbuddah:  "[quote=supersub15:  "A gentle reminder.

A residents group representing people who live near Croke Park has branded the move to let Garth Brooks play five concerts there as "unacceptable".
The US country singer was originally scheduled to play two gigs at the GAA stadium in 2022.
But it was announced on Thursday morning that Brooks would play three extra dates.
It follows a similar row in 2014 which led to Brooks refusing to play any Dublin concerts at all.
Brooks said he cannot wait to play the gigs this time around.
Colm Stephens from Clonliffe and Croke Park Area Residents Association said An Bord Pleanála (Ireland's independent planning body) previously imposed a cap of three concerts and special events a year at Croke Park.

Mr Stephens told the BBC's Evening Extra that local people had previously been made aware of seven concerts scheduled to take place in Croke Park in 2022 but they only found out on Thursday that five would be Garth Brooks.
He said: "We voiced our objection long ago and have continued over many years.
"We've objected to the breaking of the cap of three concerts that was imposed when planning permission for the stadium was awarded back in the 1990s by the planning board."

Mr Stephens said Dublin City Council and Croke Park had granted permission for the four extra special events above the cap.
Ed Sheeran will also be playing two concerts at the stadium in April 2022


At a time when social distancing is in high demand because of Covid 19 and other variants Croke park seem to dismiss with ease these factors along with residents in and around Croke Park of their everyday rights including common decency. Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area, I will admit terms and conditions were signed up to but apparently they have been conveniently kicked into touch.

Next year there may very well be 9 concerts, the following year 10 or 12 etc, etc, etc.
The legally binding contract that was signed up to and rubber stamped by Croke Park on an agreed cap on concerts is now rendered useless, how convenient.
"
'Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area', what a cheek, I get sick of hearing this attitude that for any event Croke Park has to bow and scrape to the section of people living in the area who are against events happening there. Croke Park has been there for far longer than most of the houses.
He talks about the rebuild as if it was much bigger than before, there was a time pre the 1990's rebuild that the capacity was greater than the current 80k, the attendance record is over 90k."
From your posts I really sense that you fear the concerts may be cancelled because of the residents objections. Well I hope you got your tickets to Garth and I hope you have a great day as let's face it it's a long time since anybody from Meath had a good time in Croke Park"]It's highly unlikely at this stage the concerts will be cancelled due objections by some locals, if they end up not going ahead now it will be more likely it will be that Covid is still with us strongly with us by the time they come around.
I'm actually not into Garth Brooks music so will not be at any of his shows.
I have been at a few concerts in Croker down the years. One U2 concert I was at a few years ago was really great. It also complied with conditions on its licence and finished before 11. Even though it complied with its conditions (and there was only 3 concerts that year) afterwards we were delayed after we exited the Hogan stand as some people protesting the concert tried to block the roadway exit route."]The same concerts U2 were fined over breaching noise level regulations!!!!

Liffeylad (Dublin) - Posts: 58 - 29/11/2021 17:54:35    2391149

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Replying To Liffeylad:  "
Replying To bdbuddah:  "[quote=Liffeylad:  "[quote=bdbuddah:  "[quote=supersub15:  "A gentle reminder.

A residents group representing people who live near Croke Park has branded the move to let Garth Brooks play five concerts there as "unacceptable".
The US country singer was originally scheduled to play two gigs at the GAA stadium in 2022.
But it was announced on Thursday morning that Brooks would play three extra dates.
It follows a similar row in 2014 which led to Brooks refusing to play any Dublin concerts at all.
Brooks said he cannot wait to play the gigs this time around.
Colm Stephens from Clonliffe and Croke Park Area Residents Association said An Bord Pleanála (Ireland's independent planning body) previously imposed a cap of three concerts and special events a year at Croke Park.

Mr Stephens told the BBC's Evening Extra that local people had previously been made aware of seven concerts scheduled to take place in Croke Park in 2022 but they only found out on Thursday that five would be Garth Brooks.
He said: "We voiced our objection long ago and have continued over many years.
"We've objected to the breaking of the cap of three concerts that was imposed when planning permission for the stadium was awarded back in the 1990s by the planning board."

Mr Stephens said Dublin City Council and Croke Park had granted permission for the four extra special events above the cap.
Ed Sheeran will also be playing two concerts at the stadium in April 2022


At a time when social distancing is in high demand because of Covid 19 and other variants Croke park seem to dismiss with ease these factors along with residents in and around Croke Park of their everyday rights including common decency. Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area, I will admit terms and conditions were signed up to but apparently they have been conveniently kicked into touch.

Next year there may very well be 9 concerts, the following year 10 or 12 etc, etc, etc.
The legally binding contract that was signed up to and rubber stamped by Croke Park on an agreed cap on concerts is now rendered useless, how convenient.
"
'Croke Park should never have been granted permission to rebuild its stadium at a then cost of over 110 million punts in the heart of a high density dwelling area', what a cheek, I get sick of hearing this attitude that for any event Croke Park has to bow and scrape to the section of people living in the area who are against events happening there. Croke Park has been there for far longer than most of the houses.
He talks about the rebuild as if it was much bigger than before, there was a time pre the 1990's rebuild that the capacity was greater than the current 80k, the attendance record is over 90k."
From your posts I really sense that you fear the concerts may be cancelled because of the residents objections. Well I hope you got your tickets to Garth and I hope you have a great day as let's face it it's a long time since anybody from Meath had a good time in Croke Park"]It's highly unlikely at this stage the concerts will be cancelled due objections by some locals, if they end up not going ahead now it will be more likely it will be that Covid is still with us strongly with us by the time they come around.
I'm actually not into Garth Brooks music so will not be at any of his shows.
I have been at a few concerts in Croker down the years. One U2 concert I was at a few years ago was really great. It also complied with conditions on its licence and finished before 11. Even though it complied with its conditions (and there was only 3 concerts that year) afterwards we were delayed after we exited the Hogan stand as some people protesting the concert tried to block the roadway exit route."]The same concerts U2 were fined over breaching noise level regulations!!!!"]The same concerts that had to finish earlier in Dublin than any of the other venues on the tour because of the complaints if locals (the expensive visual effects were designed for night time darkness but uniquely in Dublin most of the shows took place before nighttime darkness)

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1006 - 30/11/2021 14:52:25    2391224

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Have to say I have a certain sympathy for residents of the Croke Park area on certain days.

They're the days when the Dubs themselves are playing.

Frankly, I wouldn't want thousands of Dubs fans swarming around my house either.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 792 - 30/11/2021 15:53:13    2391230

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