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Hope Derrygonnelly go on now and win the final, it would be great for Fermanagh GAA.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 19/12/2021 09:11:57    2393232

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Replying To BigToeJoe:  "Like Saynothing you talk a lot of bull mate. Just let you know the it's all over in Breffni and it's Derrygonnelly who go through to the Ulster Club Senior Football Semi Final after beating Clann Eireann 3-11 t0 1-11."
Hi big man,

Yeah I know, I watched the match. I've watched all Derrygonnelly's games this year, both inside and outside the county. Half my family are from Fermanagh, and I know, and care, more about Fermanagh football than you may think.

Do you just come on to post weak insults, or do you have any actual points to make : )

I said:

1. Tyrone people care far more about the O'Neill Cup than the what-you-may-call-it Ulster one. That's a fact. (We also need to get out more, as it's a parochial and self-defeating attitude, and nothing to be proud of.)

2. Coalisland was very lucky to beat Errigal in the semi. Fact. Watch the game.

3. Club teams need a run in Ulster. Not just me saying that. Just common sense. Mick Glynn, Derrygonnelly Manager, interviewed in the Impartial Reporter on 11 Dec, said as follows: "Experience is massive in this competition … the first year we were in it against Slaughtneil up in Owenbeg we were just out of our depth, but every year we learnt incrementally". Would you say Mick is talking "a lot of bull" there too? Seems just like common-sense to me.

4. McNabb is Dromore's top forward. Fact. Derrygonnelly played most of the Dromore game with him off injured in a bad tackle with the Derrygonnelly guy. Fact. The game finished level in normal time. Fact. It's surely not unreasonable to suggest that, had he been playing, he might have at least scored one more point! After all, he got 3 in the first few minutes, before he was injured.

Which of the above 4 points do you disagree with, and on what basis? And do try to keep it mannerly. If your opinions are good, they don't need to be propped up with vague insults. Insults are what you do when you have nothing sensible to say.

If you stop to think about it, Derrygonnelly's great result last night has no relevance to a single point I made. In fact, I think Dromore, in their first Ulster outing, can be proud of having done so well against top opposition like Derrygonnelly. They played a lot better v Derrygonnelly than Clann did, that's for sure.
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I've been to plenty of Fermanagh club matches down the years. Fermanagh consistently has had some of the best club sides in Ulster. I remember the great Roslea team, with Peter McG, a genius and a gentleman. Had Peter been born in Kerry, he'd have been viewed as one of the best players of all time. I remember Paul Coyle's fantastic Devenish side. I remember the top Enniskillen team at the turn of the century; and I watched every match Derrygonnelly played this year. Even without young Michael Glynn, they're an excellent team, strong all over the pitch, who will make life very difficult for any team in the country. That's also a fact, by the way.

The issue for Fermanagh is that you don't have half a dozen Derrygonnellys - you just don't have the population. That's unfortunate for Fermanagh at county level, but of course great for Fermanagh's top club teams, who can reasonably expect to get to a county final most years. As Mick Glynn says, you need that run at it. Tyrone simply has more teams around the same level. The Tyrone championship is a lottery, every year. Derrygonnelly will be favourites for next year's Fermanagh title, for sure. Dromore? They'll probably get hammered in the first round.

It makes me laugh, Belfast based commentators, and some ignorant posters on here, arrogantly assuming that a Fermanagh club team will be uncompetitive, just because Fermanagh's county team isn't at the top table. Complete nonsense. You don't need me to tell you that clubs develop their own culture, and do not take their cues from what happens at county level. Derrygonnelly are winners because they're a great club and a great community and that's the way they roll around Derrygonnelly. They have their own winning mentality, and what happens at county level is irrelevant to that.

As I expected, Derrygonnelly was miles ahead of Clann (who were largely nullified by an excellent Derrygonnelly defence), and, if they keep the heads down and prepare well, they have every chance in the final.

It may be hard for you to accept, but I was cheering for Derrygonnelly last night. I'll also be cheering for them in the final. I'd love to see them do it.

Up the Harps!

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 19/12/2021 09:13:38    2393233

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Dromore won championship and fair play but Errigal would have beat Derrygonnelly. If Errigal could win next year they'll not be far off Ulster. A lot of fire power up front."
Mayo beat Dublin but Dublin would have beat Tyrone in All Ireland Final. So what. Fair play to Derrygonnelly. You sound bitter.

Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 133 - 19/12/2021 12:38:57    2393248

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Well this is the big game that people have been waiting for since the draw got made, Kilcoo ulster champions against the first time up and bookies favourites Glen.
Experience v Rookies.
Both teams full of talent on and off the field, whoever wins today i will be confident they will win the all ireland.

Both teams very similar in set ups and serious pace throughout, Glen have serious strength around the middle which they will target but i will call it with Mickey an the sideline and there game management Kilcoo by 2 in extra time.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 705 - 19/12/2021 13:31:35    2393251

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Replying To Backheel:  "Mayo beat Dublin but Dublin would have beat Tyrone in All Ireland Final. So what. Fair play to Derrygonnelly. You sound bitter."
Au contraire.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2014 - 19/12/2021 14:24:46    2393257

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Watching the game on tg4,why were all officials allowed on the field wearing black,almost same as kilcoo,very awkward at times watching screen..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2216 - 19/12/2021 18:07:31    2393275

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Come on Kilcoo I know you can do, so let's see you sort out the hen men!!! If you win I'll be there to celebrate!!!

The_Rat (Fermanagh) - Posts: 50 - 19/12/2021 20:12:38    2393284

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Just as we all thought , a real tight game, which i think Kilcoo were slightly the better team, Derrygonnelly, will be another tough big outfit ,any team that beats the Tyrone and Armagh champs are no bad side, Again ill stick with the Magpies for this one, If Kilcoo dont win ,i will be delighted to see aFermanagh team win an Ulster

germac (Down) - Posts: 534 - 19/12/2021 21:45:09    2393293

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When is the final on and what station is covering it? I'd like to see Derrygonnelly win it it but I suppose Kilcoo will be hard to beat.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2747 - 20/12/2021 12:45:03    2393317

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "When is the final on and what station is covering it? I'd like to see Derrygonnelly win it it but I suppose Kilcoo will be hard to beat."
Jan 16th final, not sure venue yet but would guess Armagh.
i though whoever won kilcoo Glen match would win all ireland, this kilcoo team our better now than 2 years ago when the got beat in all Ireland final.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 705 - 20/12/2021 17:15:31    2393349

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No doubt ,Kilcoo will be delighted to see a good dry day, to suit the pace they have all over the pitch , Kilcoo by 5

germac (Down) - Posts: 534 - 16/01/2022 11:42:18    2395132

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Let's go Magpies!

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 16/01/2022 13:05:33    2395143

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "When is the final on and what station is covering it? I'd like to see Derrygonnelly win it it but I suppose Kilcoo will be hard to beat."
It's on TG4 at 3.40

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 16/01/2022 13:38:49    2395147

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Derrygonnelly were terrible..3 pts in over 60 minutes A few like the Jones brothers tried but outclassed without much fuss. Derrygonnelly looked clueless attacking with poor shot selection.

Kilcoo slick and clinical

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 16/01/2022 17:13:18    2395175

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My god are kilcoo a terrible team to watch I hope for all that is good that they are bet, to teach a team such a poor game plan Moran obv knows the limitations of the crop of players he has, bottle up and frustrate the opposition, yes it works but to the detriment of the game. I'd be embarrassed if I was part of that team, can only pray there bet, I'd rather go down playing football instead of not playing, like their no3 is their free taker ha

Sportsfanatic90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 17/01/2022 19:48:25    2395374

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Replying To Sportsfanatic90:  "My god are kilcoo a terrible team to watch I hope for all that is good that they are bet, to teach a team such a poor game plan Moran obv knows the limitations of the crop of players he has, bottle up and frustrate the opposition, yes it works but to the detriment of the game. I'd be embarrassed if I was part of that team, can only pray there bet, I'd rather go down playing football instead of not playing, like their no3 is their free taker ha"
You sound like someone that doesn't watch gaelic football much. Every team at almost every level plays the possession game these days. Forwards are not man marked anymore, they are double marked or have sweepers operating around them. A kick pass to a forward will result in him getting swallowed up and losing the ball the majority of times. Then everyone groans why did he play that pass.

I don't like it either. It's awful watching a man cross the 45 then turn back and kick it into his own half, but what do you want? Should he punt it forward and likely give it away?

Your free taker point is not well made either. We've seen goalkeepers taking frees for ages now. Besides Kilcoo used at least 3 different takers during that game.

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 18/01/2022 13:40:04    2395442

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Replying To Sportsfanatic90:  "My god are kilcoo a terrible team to watch I hope for all that is good that they are bet, to teach a team such a poor game plan Moran obv knows the limitations of the crop of players he has, bottle up and frustrate the opposition, yes it works but to the detriment of the game. I'd be embarrassed if I was part of that team, can only pray there bet, I'd rather go down playing football instead of not playing, like their no3 is their free taker ha"
You sound like someone that doesn't watch gaelic football much. Every team at almost every level plays the possession game these days. Forwards are not man marked anymore, they are double marked or have sweepers operating around them. A kick pass to a forward will result in him getting swallowed up and losing the ball the majority of times. Then everyone groans why did he play that pass.

I don't like it either. It's awful watching a man cross the 45 then turn back and kick it into his own half, but what do you want? Should he punt it forward and likely give it away?

Your free taker point is not well made either. We've seen goalkeepers taking frees for ages now. Besides Kilcoo used at least 3 different takers during that game.

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 18/01/2022 13:46:31    2395443

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Replying To Sportsfanatic90:  "My god are kilcoo a terrible team to watch I hope for all that is good that they are bet, to teach a team such a poor game plan Moran obv knows the limitations of the crop of players he has, bottle up and frustrate the opposition, yes it works but to the detriment of the game. I'd be embarrassed if I was part of that team, can only pray there bet, I'd rather go down playing football instead of not playing, like their no3 is their free taker ha"
My god you talk total nonsense, every expert pundit in the country think their brilliant , sounds like you have a wee chip on your shoulder, As for no 3 hitting some of their frees, whats wrong with that, Goalkeepers have been hitting them for years now, Cluxton for the Dubs , Beggan for Monaghan , Morgan for Tyrone, the list is endless , To be honest i dont think your a gaa man or woman, and havent a clue about the game

germac (Down) - Posts: 534 - 18/01/2022 19:02:00    2395499

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Wonder why club success never appears to translate into inter county wins? Crossmaglen Rangers of Armagh and Slaughtneil of Derry are cases in point! Nemo Rangers bucks that argument... Cork football was strong when Nemo were winning

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 19/01/2022 08:22:16    2395522

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Replying To germac:  "My god you talk total nonsense, every expert pundit in the country think their brilliant , sounds like you have a wee chip on your shoulder, As for no 3 hitting some of their frees, whats wrong with that, Goalkeepers have been hitting them for years now, Cluxton for the Dubs , Beggan for Monaghan , Morgan for Tyrone, the list is endless , To be honest i dont think your a gaa man or woman, and havent a clue about the game"
Fully agree. Kilcoo excellent to watch. I expect them to win All Ireland and to e fair it would not be undeserved. Unlucky enough v Corofin in normal time in last AI.

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 840 - 19/01/2022 10:16:13    2395539

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