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Replying To Administrator: "This was posted as a new thread but since the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here.
MacAtack (Cavan)
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Ramor Vs Kilcoo
Good to see the game is on rte. Hw do people think the game will go? Ramor have a good squad to go far in this competition if they are taking it seriously. I hope all of cavan are behind them." This was posted as a new thread but since the subject matter is the same it has been incorporated here.
Thanks Admin.
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2460 - 04/12/2021 10:29:55
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Scotstown have been the dominant force in monaghan club football over the past 10 years (give or take). If they do not win an Ulster Club with some of the players they have it will be a travesty. I believe they need to do it this year as its as a good as any and no one in Monaghan has got anywhere near them.
I would go so far to say that they won monaghan in 2nd gear a lot of the time. They need to push on and win an Ulster now as they are truly capable of doing. Kieran Hughes at club level is an outrageous talent and deserves an medal as well as all the scotstown team who have been magnificent champions and play the game the way we want to see.
muckla (UK) - Posts: 365 - 04/12/2021 11:22:35
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Come on Kilcoo!!
Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 04/12/2021 16:53:21
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Replying To Blueblood4life: "All the talk about Glen?! They were damn damn lucky in what was a terrible game. The ref must have been reading the papers aswell about this all conquering Derry team because he made sure they got the rub of the green, any 50/50s seemed to go Glens way, a penalty (although not converted) that was a joke!
Anyway, they've progressed but as far as world beaters go?? I'm yet to be convinced.
Next round should see just how good they are. Going in hot favourites against a Scotstown team who I've seen kill teams off after 15mins of football." Looks like 'hot favourites' was a fair assessment, Glen are a serious outfit. If Scotstown are 'killing teams off after 15 mins of football' maybe that says more about the standard of Monaghan football. There was no chance of them doing that to this Glen team who won a Derry championship which is probably the hardest to win amongst the 9 Ulster counties. Kilcoo will likely give them a bigger test though than Scotstown did.
sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 05/12/2021 17:06:26
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K h should no dat he was going to get targeted by Glen today walked rite into Glen's hands and fair play to them they had a game plan and it worked
Lad79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 53 - 05/12/2021 17:24:24
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Glen and Kilcoo should be a great battle. Whoever wins that is favourite for the All Ireland for me.
Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 958 - 05/12/2021 20:01:07
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Replying To Kerry15: "Glen and Kilcoo should be a great battle. Whoever wins that is favourite for the All Ireland for me." Yea should be a right good game, But as far as Kilcoo are concerned ,they wont look past Glen ,I think the biggest dissapointment of the week end was Scotstown ,a team with 4 or 5 county men, they were just so poor, maybe an off day i dont know, Not surprised at Derrygonnellys win over Dromore ,as there is no stand out club team in Tyrone, and fair play to Clann Erin getting past Antrims Creggan, Off the teams thats left in Ulster, not much between them, Ill stick with Kilcoo,
germac (Down) - Posts: 534 - 05/12/2021 20:59:03
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Replying To Lad79: "K h should no dat he was going to get targeted by Glen today walked rite into Glen's hands and fair play to them they had a game plan and it worked" The Hughes' have no one but themselves to blame. They were instigating the late hits and the hard man verbals. KH sould have gone earlier for the first hit on McDevitt and then pushing him in the back when the player was down injured.
clubfan17 (Wicklow) - Posts: 107 - 06/12/2021 12:39:42
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They is a great silence from Tyrone since one of Fermanagh clubs, Derrygonnelly knocked the best that the Red Hands county had to offer out of the Ulster Club Senior Championship at the weekend. Let's hope that silence be now reflected in the reduction in their flags that are a flown unnecessarily in places that don't want to see them .
IrvinestownMkII (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1401 - 06/12/2021 14:12:15
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Replying To IrvinestownMkII: "They is a great silence from Tyrone since one of Fermanagh clubs, Derrygonnelly knocked the best that the Red Hands county had to offer out of the Ulster Club Senior Championship at the weekend. Let's hope that silence be now reflected in the reduction in their flags that are a flown unnecessarily in places that don't want to see them ." No silence at all, Not easy for the Tyrone boys with All Ireland medals in their pocket.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2013 - 06/12/2021 14:50:42
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Replying To IrvinestownMkII: "They is a great silence from Tyrone since one of Fermanagh clubs, Derrygonnelly knocked the best that the Red Hands county had to offer out of the Ulster Club Senior Championship at the weekend. Let's hope that silence be now reflected in the reduction in their flags that are a flown unnecessarily in places that don't want to see them ." No silence at all, Not easy for the Tyrone boys with All Ireland medals in their pocket.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2013 - 06/12/2021 16:16:59
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Replying To IrvinestownMkII: "They is a great silence from Tyrone since one of Fermanagh clubs, Derrygonnelly knocked the best that the Red Hands county had to offer out of the Ulster Club Senior Championship at the weekend. Let's hope that silence be now reflected in the reduction in their flags that are a flown unnecessarily in places that don't want to see them ." Irvinestown is it? Ah well, sure as long as you've got the health : )
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 06/12/2021 17:32:45
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We're perhaps too insular in Tyrone. In Tyrone, the O'Neill Cup is what you dream about. The McFerran trophy attracts no more than mild interest. Nobody really cares about it. It's hard to explain that to outsiders, but that's how it is.
Dromore were fortunate to get Coalisland in the county final, who to my mind should not have been in the final. Errigal imploded v Coalisland who fluked their way into the county final with 3 bizarre goals in the closing 8 minutes. Generally, Coalisland only has one top forward, O'Hagan, and once he was off injured v Dromore in the final, Coalisland were toothless. Essentially, it should have been Errigal in the final, and I'd fancy them to beat Dromore, or Derrygonnelly, for that matter. Watch out btw for Canavan's younger lad, the 17 year old who plays for Errigal, Darragh's younger brother - chip off the old block, scored a couple of points v Coalisland that were worthy of the entrance price by themselves.
Derrygonnelly would be the first to admit that they were hammered the first time they played in Ulster at the start of their recent run, second year not much better, and it was only by the time of their 3rd appearance that they started to give a better account of themselves. Tyrone teams suffer from having a lot of teams all around the same level who can all beat each other. You can rest assured that Dromore, this year's Tyrone SFC winners, will be beaten in the county next year, and you mightn't hear of them for at least a few years again. And that's no slight on Dromore, that's true for all of us. Unlike your Kilcoos or Slaughtneils or Cross or Derrygonnelly, no Tyrone team ever gets a run at it. Winning the county means more in Tyrone than it does in any other county. We don't even think about Ulster until the co final is over. Then everyone goes on the rip, and the provincial series is seen as a bit of crack.
That slapdash attitude towards the Ulster series is annoying, and nothing to be proud of, I agree. There's way too much satisfaction at having won the county; and too little familiarity with playing in the Ulster series means that still-celebrating and inexperienced Tyrone teams emerge every year, give a poor enough account of themselves (invariably playing some way below the intensity they'd bring to bear inside the county - because for Tyrone folk, it simply does not matter as much, and never has done) - and disappear for a decade. I don't see that changing until one or two Tyrone clubs start to dominate the rest; and I really can't see that happening any time soon. As for the Dromore game, Derrygonnelly had some good fortune - McNabb is Dromore's best attacker by a mile, and was the guy who did much of the damage for them in previous games. Unfortunately, he was badly injured very early on, so Dromore played most of the weekend's game without him. Had he been playing, it's very unlikely that the game would ever have finished a draw.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 06/12/2021 18:04:19
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Replying To clubfan17: "The Hughes' have no one but themselves to blame. They were instigating the late hits and the hard man verbals. KH sould have gone earlier for the first hit on McDevitt and then pushing him in the back when the player was down injured." Indeed, don't know what the Hughes' were up to, but they got away with other things just before those too. They really pushed their luck. Scotstown were lucky not to be down to even less than 13. How on earth did Rory Beggan get away with that tackle around the 50th minute? Sliding tackle that took the legs from under a Glen player. Potential career ender tackle there. Should have got the line straight away there. McQuillan let a lot go in that game
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2383 - 07/12/2021 11:56:22
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Hopefully a cracker of a game tomorrow Kilcoo v Glen , Kilcoo by 3 or 4, their better bench to get them over the line,
germac (Down) - Posts: 534 - 18/12/2021 17:38:10
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Replying To essmac: "We're perhaps too insular in Tyrone. In Tyrone, the O'Neill Cup is what you dream about. The McFerran trophy attracts no more than mild interest. Nobody really cares about it. It's hard to explain that to outsiders, but that's how it is.
Dromore were fortunate to get Coalisland in the county final, who to my mind should not have been in the final. Errigal imploded v Coalisland who fluked their way into the county final with 3 bizarre goals in the closing 8 minutes. Generally, Coalisland only has one top forward, O'Hagan, and once he was off injured v Dromore in the final, Coalisland were toothless. Essentially, it should have been Errigal in the final, and I'd fancy them to beat Dromore, or Derrygonnelly, for that matter. Watch out btw for Canavan's younger lad, the 17 year old who plays for Errigal, Darragh's younger brother - chip off the old block, scored a couple of points v Coalisland that were worthy of the entrance price by themselves.
Derrygonnelly would be the first to admit that they were hammered the first time they played in Ulster at the start of their recent run, second year not much better, and it was only by the time of their 3rd appearance that they started to give a better account of themselves. Tyrone teams suffer from having a lot of teams all around the same level who can all beat each other. You can rest assured that Dromore, this year's Tyrone SFC winners, will be beaten in the county next year, and you mightn't hear of them for at least a few years again. And that's no slight on Dromore, that's true for all of us. Unlike your Kilcoos or Slaughtneils or Cross or Derrygonnelly, no Tyrone team ever gets a run at it. Winning the county means more in Tyrone than it does in any other county. We don't even think about Ulster until the co final is over. Then everyone goes on the rip, and the provincial series is seen as a bit of crack.
That slapdash attitude towards the Ulster series is annoying, and nothing to be proud of, I agree. There's way too much satisfaction at having won the county; and too little familiarity with playing in the Ulster series means that still-celebrating and inexperienced Tyrone teams emerge every year, give a poor enough account of themselves (invariably playing some way below the intensity they'd bring to bear inside the county - because for Tyrone folk, it simply does not matter as much, and never has done) - and disappear for a decade. I don't see that changing until one or two Tyrone clubs start to dominate the rest; and I really can't see that happening any time soon. As for the Dromore game, Derrygonnelly had some good fortune - McNabb is Dromore's best attacker by a mile, and was the guy who did much of the damage for them in previous games. Unfortunately, he was badly injured very early on, so Dromore played most of the weekend's game without him. Had he been playing, it's very unlikely that the game would ever have finished a draw." Dromore won championship and fair play but Errigal would have beat Derrygonnelly. If Errigal could win next year they'll not be far off Ulster. A lot of fire power up front.
Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2013 - 18/12/2021 19:22:38
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Replying To essmac: "We're perhaps too insular in Tyrone. In Tyrone, the O'Neill Cup is what you dream about. The McFerran trophy attracts no more than mild interest. Nobody really cares about it. It's hard to explain that to outsiders, but that's how it is.
Dromore were fortunate to get Coalisland in the county final, who to my mind should not have been in the final. Errigal imploded v Coalisland who fluked their way into the county final with 3 bizarre goals in the closing 8 minutes. Generally, Coalisland only has one top forward, O'Hagan, and once he was off injured v Dromore in the final, Coalisland were toothless. Essentially, it should have been Errigal in the final, and I'd fancy them to beat Dromore, or Derrygonnelly, for that matter. Watch out btw for Canavan's younger lad, the 17 year old who plays for Errigal, Darragh's younger brother - chip off the old block, scored a couple of points v Coalisland that were worthy of the entrance price by themselves.
Derrygonnelly would be the first to admit that they were hammered the first time they played in Ulster at the start of their recent run, second year not much better, and it was only by the time of their 3rd appearance that they started to give a better account of themselves. Tyrone teams suffer from having a lot of teams all around the same level who can all beat each other. You can rest assured that Dromore, this year's Tyrone SFC winners, will be beaten in the county next year, and you mightn't hear of them for at least a few years again. And that's no slight on Dromore, that's true for all of us. Unlike your Kilcoos or Slaughtneils or Cross or Derrygonnelly, no Tyrone team ever gets a run at it. Winning the county means more in Tyrone than it does in any other county. We don't even think about Ulster until the co final is over. Then everyone goes on the rip, and the provincial series is seen as a bit of crack.
That slapdash attitude towards the Ulster series is annoying, and nothing to be proud of, I agree. There's way too much satisfaction at having won the county; and too little familiarity with playing in the Ulster series means that still-celebrating and inexperienced Tyrone teams emerge every year, give a poor enough account of themselves (invariably playing some way below the intensity they'd bring to bear inside the county - because for Tyrone folk, it simply does not matter as much, and never has done) - and disappear for a decade. I don't see that changing until one or two Tyrone clubs start to dominate the rest; and I really can't see that happening any time soon. As for the Dromore game, Derrygonnelly had some good fortune - McNabb is Dromore's best attacker by a mile, and was the guy who did much of the damage for them in previous games. Unfortunately, he was badly injured very early on, so Dromore played most of the weekend's game without him. Had he been playing, it's very unlikely that the game would ever have finished a draw." Like Saynothing you talk a lot of bull mate. Just let you know the it's all over in Breffni and it's Derrygonnelly who go through to the Ulster Club Senior Football Semi Final after beating Clann Eireann 3-11 t0 1-11.
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Replying To BigToeJoe: "Like Saynothing you talk a lot of bull mate. Just let you know the it's all over in Breffni and it's Derrygonnelly who go through to the Ulster Club Senior Football Semi Final after beating Clann Eireann 3-11 t0 1-11." I meant to say THE FINAL!
BigToeJoe (Fermanagh) - Posts: 186 - 18/12/2021 21:04:04
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Replying To Saynothing: "Dromore won championship and fair play but Errigal would have beat Derrygonnelly. If Errigal could win next year they'll not be far off Ulster. A lot of fire power up front." Not a whole lot of sense in this post ,Dromore earned the right to play Derrygonnelly as county winners not Errigal.
germac (Down) - Posts: 534 - 18/12/2021 21:42:55
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Replying To germac: "Not a whole lot of sense in this post ,Dromore earned the right to play Derrygonnelly as county winners not Errigal." I watched all the Tyrone championship games. I wonder how many of them did you watch. Errigal are twice the team that Coalisland are. Errigal took their eye off the ball. They and everyone watching was thinking about the Dromore-Errigal final. No harm to Coalisland, but they were being beat off the field by Errigal and got 3 bizarre goals in the last 8 minutes to sneak through. It was a freak result and would be unlikely to happen again. Coalisland has only one good forward too, O'Hagan, and he went off injured for them early on in the final. The facts are that Dromore beat a team that was lucky to be in the final, and who lost their best (only) forward once they got to the final. Dromore could of course only beat what was in front of them, but it's fair to say that nobody in Tyrone expects to see Coalisland back in next year's final.
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 19/12/2021 08:02:18
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