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Aaron Lynch from Trim needs to get a chance to show us if he can produce what he has done , year in , year out with Trim in the intermediate ranks , with the County . He's travelled the Player Dev Pathway with Meath , up to U21 level . And has been a standout performer the whole way . It's time we got a chance to see this at Snr level .

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 18/10/2021 11:08:43    2386031

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Aaron Lynch -Trim -Forward

Paddy Matthews -Meath Hill - Athletic Midfielder -

Sean Coffey - Defender -Ballinbrackey

Meath have abundant players that we need to get a look at . Not just the recent ones . What's wrong with Players , like Frank O Reilly .Padraig McDermott -Carnaross .

Evan Hoey, Castletown .Defender - Tall athletic , fast footballers .

I know he jumped ship years ago to the blues shirt but young Mick Deegan donned the Meath jersey before and could still do a job for Meath if he reverted .
he's changed the dynamic in DA this year . . We had the like s of the Lowndes guys approached . How about reverting the trend and doing the same with the likes of Deegan .

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 18/10/2021 11:18:09    2386037

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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu:  "Aaron Lynch -Trim -Forward

Paddy Matthews -Meath Hill - Athletic Midfielder -

Sean Coffey - Defender -Ballinbrackey

Meath have abundant players that we need to get a look at . Not just the recent ones . What's wrong with Players , like Frank O Reilly .Padraig McDermott -Carnaross .

Evan Hoey, Castletown .Defender - Tall athletic , fast footballers .

I know he jumped ship years ago to the blues shirt but young Mick Deegan donned the Meath jersey before and could still do a job for Meath if he reverted .
he's changed the dynamic in DA this year . . We had the like s of the Lowndes guys approached . How about reverting the trend and doing the same with the likes of Deegan ."
Careful now Chaisleain_Abu someone might accuse you of duplicate accounts, bringing up Deegan like that

Some good names there from you and think you have a point re Aaron Lynch. Think plenty within the county have suggested him and I believe he's another accurate free taker so why not let him have an opportunity at least.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 18/10/2021 11:47:19    2386045

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Replying To brian:  "Careful now Chaisleain_Abu someone might accuse you of duplicate accounts, bringing up Deegan like that

Some good names there from you and think you have a point re Aaron Lynch. Think plenty within the county have suggested him and I believe he's another accurate free taker so why not let him have an opportunity at least."
Did Deegan play underage for Meath? Thought he was Dublin the whole way up. Either way he's not good enough. Very good Meath Club player but that's it. If a lad is struggling to Nail down at regular starting spot at a Dublin Club who are not even a top 4 Dublin club he is not gonna be good enough to play Inter County for Meath. Great addition for Ashbourne though.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 18/10/2021 12:17:54    2386055

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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu:  "Aaron Lynch -Trim -Forward

Paddy Matthews -Meath Hill - Athletic Midfielder -

Sean Coffey - Defender -Ballinbrackey

Meath have abundant players that we need to get a look at . Not just the recent ones . What's wrong with Players , like Frank O Reilly .Padraig McDermott -Carnaross .

Evan Hoey, Castletown .Defender - Tall athletic , fast footballers .

I know he jumped ship years ago to the blues shirt but young Mick Deegan donned the Meath jersey before and could still do a job for Meath if he reverted .
he's changed the dynamic in DA this year . . We had the like s of the Lowndes guys approached . How about reverting the trend and doing the same with the likes of Deegan ."
Michael Deegan never played for Meath at any level to the best of my knowledge. He played all his underage football with Dublin.

kingofclubs (Meath) - Posts: 321 - 18/10/2021 12:32:58    2386057

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Did Deegan play underage for Meath? Thought he was Dublin the whole way up. Either way he's not good enough. Very good Meath Club player but that's it. If a lad is struggling to Nail down at regular starting spot at a Dublin Club who are not even a top 4 Dublin club he is not gonna be good enough to play Inter County for Meath. Great addition for Ashbourne though."
I'm not a 100% sure but he might've played U14 or U16 but think he switched prior to minor and look that's fair enough. He has been a great addition for DA now that he's back there and good luck to them. I think you're underestimating good club players in Dublin though. Anyone top 10 Dublin club would likely beat Ratoath and I don't say that lightly. The Dublin championship is as competitive as any. Look at the end of the day Andy and his team will pick who they think is right for their team and if Deegan isn't deemed good enough so be it. I believe its worth a phone call and asking, and accept people will disagree with that. But sure isn't that the point of these forums to discuss people's opinions.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 18/10/2021 14:30:26    2386087

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Sorry I thought he was with some of our Development squads up to minor . I may stand corrected

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 18/10/2021 14:31:25    2386088

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Did Deegan play underage for Meath? Thought he was Dublin the whole way up. Either way he's not good enough. Very good Meath Club player but that's it. If a lad is struggling to Nail down at regular starting spot at a Dublin Club who are not even a top 4 Dublin club he is not gonna be good enough to play Inter County for Meath. Great addition for Ashbourne though."
Blackspot,

Meath need to unearth more talent , Deegan played with Dublin U21 in 2016 ,and was on the Dublin team that won the O Byrne cup in 2017 I think . But the gra for the Blues may be to much to wangle his commitment . Up to 2017 he was been looked as a a potential Meath Player , but declared for the City guys . Forget MD then and focus on our own talent, lets not detract from what we should be discussing on here. We need to start seeing more new blood in the Green and gold . More needs to be blooded and viewed this year so that we can start a new era in 2022 , and we all know we are in dire straits in a number of critical positions. Our MF , goalie , CHB . Our CHB position shifts all over the place but we need to start stabilising these positions. There's no point in a CHB going tearing up the field to score a point if there's a gap the size of the grand canyon constantly in our defence .
Attacking half BACKS are exactly that . the are half backs whose primary focus is to prevent scoring opportunities and to attack when the opportunities raises itself . Primary focus to prevent - secondary to initiate and take opportunities.

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 18/10/2021 14:46:07    2386093

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Replying To Chaisleain_Abu:  "Blackspot,

Meath need to unearth more talent , Deegan played with Dublin U21 in 2016 ,and was on the Dublin team that won the O Byrne cup in 2017 I think . But the gra for the Blues may be to much to wangle his commitment . Up to 2017 he was been looked as a a potential Meath Player , but declared for the City guys . Forget MD then and focus on our own talent, lets not detract from what we should be discussing on here. We need to start seeing more new blood in the Green and gold . More needs to be blooded and viewed this year so that we can start a new era in 2022 , and we all know we are in dire straits in a number of critical positions. Our MF , goalie , CHB . Our CHB position shifts all over the place but we need to start stabilising these positions. There's no point in a CHB going tearing up the field to score a point if there's a gap the size of the grand canyon constantly in our defence .
Attacking half BACKS are exactly that . the are half backs whose primary focus is to prevent scoring opportunities and to attack when the opportunities raises itself . Primary focus to prevent - secondary to initiate and take opportunities."
Ok

Not really sure what Michael Deegan a scoring forward being good enough or not good enough for Meath has to with CHB tearing up the pitch and leaving a big gap in defence... or how him playing for meath or not relates to the primary focus of the half back position . If i could post the puzzled emoji on here I would. That was an odd post.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 18/10/2021 15:33:19    2386101

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it's about un-earthing adequate players to fill critical positions .

Chaisleain_Abu (Meath) - Posts: 220 - 18/10/2021 15:44:44    2386104

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Replying To brian:  "I'm not a 100% sure but he might've played U14 or U16 but think he switched prior to minor and look that's fair enough. He has been a great addition for DA now that he's back there and good luck to them. I think you're underestimating good club players in Dublin though. Anyone top 10 Dublin club would likely beat Ratoath and I don't say that lightly. The Dublin championship is as competitive as any. Look at the end of the day Andy and his team will pick who they think is right for their team and if Deegan isn't deemed good enough so be it. I believe its worth a phone call and asking, and accept people will disagree with that. But sure isn't that the point of these forums to discuss people's opinions."
yep it absolutely is the point of these forums . Everyone entitled to their opinion. I am certainly not under estimating the Dublin club player or championship but IMO if you can't get a regular start in a team like Na Fianna who are a very good side but not at the top table in Dublin I just don't see how you would cut it at the top end of Division 2/ Div 1 level at Inter County.

Just from seeing alot of him over the years including last year and this year for me falls into the category of very good club forward but wouldn't cut it at senior inter county level.

This weekend will be a good marker to see where he is at as he will be more than likely be marked by Seamus Lavin or Gavin McCoy.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 18/10/2021 16:00:56    2386107

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Ok

Not really sure what Michael Deegan a scoring forward being good enough or not good enough for Meath has to with CHB tearing up the pitch and leaving a big gap in defence... or how him playing for meath or not relates to the primary focus of the half back position . If i could post the puzzled emoji on here I would. That was an odd post."
I don't think any link was made between Deegan and CHB position tbh. I think the poster was clearly saying regardless of whether he's involved or not that we need talent all over the pitch, on every line of the pitch if we're being honest about it and on the bench too.

I think his reference to CHB was more to the fact that our current one is prone to going up the field and leaving a gapping hole which teams exploit at will. The primary job of a 6 is to man that central area and not move too far from it. Look at Enda McManus, Kieran McGeeeney and Cian O'Sullivan. All of them barely left their half. They were smart footballers who's ability to read games and break up play meant they were always in the right position. We've never replaced Enda at 6 since he left. Our current incumbent spends half his time out past half way and teams breaking off turn over ball are straight down our central channel.

You don't see that with Dublin (John Small) Tyrone (McGeary and others). Teams with a settled 6 tend to prosper as the defenders can attack knowing their 3 and 6 won't be further up the pitch than them. Look at Conor Gormley in 2005 and 2008 or Graham Canty in 2010. Manned the 6 channel and broke up attacks, same with Karl Lacey for Donegal.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 18/10/2021 16:13:41    2386108

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "yep it absolutely is the point of these forums . Everyone entitled to their opinion. I am certainly not under estimating the Dublin club player or championship but IMO if you can't get a regular start in a team like Na Fianna who are a very good side but not at the top table in Dublin I just don't see how you would cut it at the top end of Division 2/ Div 1 level at Inter County.

Just from seeing alot of him over the years including last year and this year for me falls into the category of very good club forward but wouldn't cut it at senior inter county level.

This weekend will be a good marker to see where he is at as he will be more than likely be marked by Seamus Lavin or Gavin McCoy."
Yeah thats fair and your last point re who will mark him will say a lot. If he can get change out of Lavin, what harm in giving him an O'Byrne cup game, if he wants to play for us of which there's no guarantee anyways ;) So this could all be null and void and I'll have wasted a lot of people's time bringing up his name ;)

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 18/10/2021 17:01:36    2386127

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Replying To brian:  "I don't think any link was made between Deegan and CHB position tbh. I think the poster was clearly saying regardless of whether he's involved or not that we need talent all over the pitch, on every line of the pitch if we're being honest about it and on the bench too.

I think his reference to CHB was more to the fact that our current one is prone to going up the field and leaving a gapping hole which teams exploit at will. The primary job of a 6 is to man that central area and not move too far from it. Look at Enda McManus, Kieran McGeeeney and Cian O'Sullivan. All of them barely left their half. They were smart footballers who's ability to read games and break up play meant they were always in the right position. We've never replaced Enda at 6 since he left. Our current incumbent spends half his time out past half way and teams breaking off turn over ball are straight down our central channel.

You don't see that with Dublin (John Small) Tyrone (McGeary and others). Teams with a settled 6 tend to prosper as the defenders can attack knowing their 3 and 6 won't be further up the pitch than them. Look at Conor Gormley in 2005 and 2008 or Graham Canty in 2010. Manned the 6 channel and broke up attacks, same with Karl Lacey for Donegal."
Id argue our chb doesnt go tp far forward but hangs in front of our full back.leaving his man to cause havoc.

Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 19/10/2021 10:22:39    2386196

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CHB is a specialist position, you have to be able to read the game, man mark, know when to let your man go, when to sit and that is even before you add being able to drive forward. I think Pauric Harnan is our best option. Donal Keoghan is also brilliant but having him at CHB means he can't go forward as much as he can from wing back.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Michael Deegan gets on this weekend, expect Seamus Lavin to pick him up.

If people are heading to matchs this weekend, keep an eye out for the following:
McCoy, Lowndes, David McEntee and Lenihan - Dunboyne
Deegan - Ashbourne
Adam & Cian O Neill - Wolfe Tones
Jack Flynn, Daithi & Gavin McGowan - Ratoath
Aaron Lynch & Ciaran Caufield - Trim
Keith Curtis & Caolagh Halligan -Rathkenny

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 19/10/2021 11:07:34    2386211

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There is plenty of talent in Meath. The job is to be able to spot the right lads suitable for Croke Park in Summer(horses for courses) organise and play them in their optimum position (not as easy as it sounds) . The lads showed they are as good as Dublin this year and would have beat them but for glaring referee errors.
Imagine how up and coming talent would demotivate if they had to make room for lads coming in whose 1st preference was Dublin but were not wanted there. such a scenario would imply Meath selection cant spot what Dublin can.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 19/10/2021 11:18:34    2386218

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Replying To Borderroyal:  "Id argue our chb doesnt go tp far forward but hangs in front of our full back.leaving his man to cause havoc."
100% accurate. But his possession stats must be amazing!

GenderNeutral (Meath) - Posts: 112 - 19/10/2021 13:08:33    2386245

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "CHB is a specialist position, you have to be able to read the game, man mark, know when to let your man go, when to sit and that is even before you add being able to drive forward. I think Pauric Harnan is our best option. Donal Keoghan is also brilliant but having him at CHB means he can't go forward as much as he can from wing back.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Michael Deegan gets on this weekend, expect Seamus Lavin to pick him up.

If people are heading to matchs this weekend, keep an eye out for the following:
McCoy, Lowndes, David McEntee and Lenihan - Dunboyne
Deegan - Ashbourne
Adam & Cian O Neill - Wolfe Tones
Jack Flynn, Daithi & Gavin McGowan - Ratoath
Aaron Lynch & Ciaran Caufield - Trim
Keith Curtis & Caolagh Halligan -Rathkenny"
I'm a bit confused with your players to look out for? Are these supposed to be new players? If so, David McEntee, Donal Lenihan, McCoy, Jack Flynn & Keith Curtis were all part of the Senior set up this year? Where others like Gavin McGowan & Caolach Halligan have been involved before?

Why haven't you included names like Seamus Lavin, Ronan Jones, Bryan Menton, Joey Wallace, Thomas O'Reilly, Donal Keogan etc?

DMman (Meath) - Posts: 17 - 19/10/2021 14:47:50    2386262

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Replying To DMman:  "I'm a bit confused with your players to look out for? Are these supposed to be new players? If so, David McEntee, Donal Lenihan, McCoy, Jack Flynn & Keith Curtis were all part of the Senior set up this year? Where others like Gavin McGowan & Caolach Halligan have been involved before?

Why haven't you included names like Seamus Lavin, Ronan Jones, Bryan Menton, Joey Wallace, Thomas O'Reilly, Donal Keogan etc?"
Agh for crying out loud, did you really need to say that. I think tbf to the poster they did put in players who aren't currently involved with the squad that they were looking at and could be brought back into things.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 19/10/2021 15:17:38    2386276

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Replying To DMman:  "I'm a bit confused with your players to look out for? Are these supposed to be new players? If so, David McEntee, Donal Lenihan, McCoy, Jack Flynn & Keith Curtis were all part of the Senior set up this year? Where others like Gavin McGowan & Caolach Halligan have been involved before?

Why haven't you included names like Seamus Lavin, Ronan Jones, Bryan Menton, Joey Wallace, Thomas O'Reilly, Donal Keogan etc?"
The likes of Lavin, Jones, Menton are already established senior players who rarely have an off day with their club and even if they do they will be back in with the Meath set up next year as they are established on the panel.

They don't need to be brand new players to be considered for Meath. The lads I have mentioned above, have been going well with their clubs, good club form is very important for lads wanting to get into the county set up.

The likes of McEntee, Curtis, Flynn are all fringe players who need to be impressing in club games. While McCoy, Lenihan and a few others were in the squad before and if they want to get back in again then they will need to put in a good shift at the weekend.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 19/10/2021 15:19:27    2386277

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