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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Fair points, Think PRO is innocent here as it's a live broadcast unfortunately and the host certainly lost control of the narrative, very unprofessional carry on, clearly little or no preparations done in advance, some of the senior players were behind coach's removal and self analysis was required rather than always blaming the coach or manager."
In that case we are in even worse trouble than I thought. It makes it look like the senior players must have been filling in some of the panel members.

The reality is if you are right we have a hurling manager merely in name fronting for the senior players some of whom who didn't start training till February and abated by Iarmhi TV.What young lad would want to get involved with that set up.
Good news about the PRO as some great work recently but how have Westmeath GAA allowed this to go out live especially after the outburst after the Laois match.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1663 - 14/03/2025 15:44:23    2596369

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There is questions to be answered though backing the management team or not, I see now that the podcast has disappeared completely now as it's disappeared off my YouTube history. People, supporters of westmeath hurling and officials had a right to question this appointment from day one,there was no smoke without fire what happened in his previous county and the whole running from that setup and popping up a few months later for present job does look poor.
I said in a previous post that this relegation will set back hurling enormously in westmeath,it happened in 2011 and it took a couple of years to recover,even in relegation in 2011 under Kevin Martin the team showed more fight than this year,this is looking like another lost generation of promising westmeath hurlers well able to compete at underage but never ever build in it at senior.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 783 - 14/03/2025 16:13:03    2596375

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Replying To jobber:  "In that case we are in even worse trouble than I thought. It makes it look like the senior players must have been filling in some of the panel members.

The reality is if you are right we have a hurling manager merely in name fronting for the senior players some of whom who didn't start training till February and abated by Iarmhi TV.What young lad would want to get involved with that set up.
Good news about the PRO as some great work recently but how have Westmeath GAA allowed this to go out live especially after the outburst after the Laois match."
The latest episode regarding the Centre of Excellence has also now been taken down! So the last two episodes of the podcast are down down; what a mess.

The hurlers are heading for the Christy Ring Cup unless some change is made ASAP before the Joe Mc Donagh starts.. morale is a very low level now with the hurlers.

Matthew (None) - Posts: 1066 - 14/03/2025 17:02:34    2596384

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Replying To preddan:  "There is questions to be answered though backing the management team or not, I see now that the podcast has disappeared completely now as it's disappeared off my YouTube history. People, supporters of westmeath hurling and officials had a right to question this appointment from day one,there was no smoke without fire what happened in his previous county and the whole running from that setup and popping up a few months later for present job does look poor.
I said in a previous post that this relegation will set back hurling enormously in westmeath,it happened in 2011 and it took a couple of years to recover,even in relegation in 2011 under Kevin Martin the team showed more fight than this year,this is looking like another lost generation of promising westmeath hurlers well able to compete at underage but never ever build in it at senior."
What lost generation? Bit of perspective needed, we're relegated to tier 3 but it's not as if it's unlucky. Maybe operating at tier 3 will give a chance for younger lads to take ownership of the team, a genuine tier two county wouldn't have players starting major matches without having trained properly over the pre season. Fitness levels are one issue but a bigger issue is the form of key senior players and it hasn't been good enough to stay in this division. Jobber mentioned earlier about the players and getting rid of Shane O' Brien is an easy get out, blaming the coach without taking personal responsibility is not the way to be successful

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 2080 - 14/03/2025 19:20:51    2596396

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Good win for Westmeath over Kilkenny yesterday evening in the u19 development league. 0-19-1-10.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 1010 - 15/03/2025 07:53:12    2596444

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Replying To Matthew:  "The latest episode regarding the Centre of Excellence has also now been taken down! So the last two episodes of the podcast are down down; what a mess.

The hurlers are heading for the Christy Ring Cup unless some change is made ASAP before the Joe Mc Donagh starts.. morale is a very low level now with the hurlers."
Did anyone get to hear the latest podcast before it was taken down, or anyone know what was said in it?

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 602 - 19/03/2025 14:57:56    2597289

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Replying To stonemadbeany:  "Did anyone get to hear the latest podcast before it was taken down, or anyone know what was said in it?"
Read the posts on 188.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1663 - 19/03/2025 18:56:47    2597345

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Replying To jobber:  "Read the posts on 188."
I'm talking about the the Centre of Excellence one, where there was a county player from each on it.

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 602 - 20/03/2025 11:42:26    2597446

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Replying To stonemadbeany:  "I'm talking about the the Centre of Excellence one, where there was a county player from each on it."
No didn't see it I wonder what did they have to censor this time.?

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1663 - 20/03/2025 15:12:20    2597498

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Well a win at last and even though it was a dead rubber very welcome. No one should get carried away Carlow had only about half their first 15 out so they are clearly favourites for Mcdonagh. But a win is a win and stops the rot and the minors won easily in Wicklow but that tells us very little either.
But after the nightmare year so far it's a boost for everyone.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1663 - 22/03/2025 20:29:34    2597848

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Replying To jobber:  "Well a win at last and even though it was a dead rubber very welcome. No one should get carried away Carlow had only about half their first 15 out so they are clearly favourites for Mcdonagh. But a win is a win and stops the rot and the minors won easily in Wicklow but that tells us very little either.
But after the nightmare year so far it's a boost for everyone."
Yes a win is a win, stops the rot, for now at least. Separately I was very impressed with Offalys attitude today, already promoted, into the League final, a man down but still fought right to the end against Waterford. We could do with some of that attitude.

Bigjoe1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 61 - 22/03/2025 23:35:59    2597881

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Replying To Bigjoe1:  "Yes a win is a win, stops the rot, for now at least. Separately I was very impressed with Offalys attitude today, already promoted, into the League final, a man down but still fought right to the end against Waterford. We could do with some of that attitude."
You are right this team up to now at least hasn't shown any of that.If we want to do anything in Mcdonagh we will need some of that in O Moore Park and Newbridge, if not it will be a battle to stay out of Christy Ring.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1663 - 23/03/2025 07:52:57    2597891

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A win is a win, albeit, against a Carlow side with nothing to play for and eyes elsewhere.

Killian ran the show again. Brilliant to watch his long range striking. My major concern is everytime Killian is on form the rest of the forwards take a day off. Look back over the previous years and a pattern is evident.

dakid (Australia) - Posts: 291 - 24/03/2025 09:27:56    2598198

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Replying To dakid:  "A win is a win, albeit, against a Carlow side with nothing to play for and eyes elsewhere.

Killian ran the show again. Brilliant to watch his long range striking. My major concern is everytime Killian is on form the rest of the forwards take a day off. Look back over the previous years and a pattern is evident."
He was immense and looked fitter.We need O Reilly,O Brien and David Williams as well to be scoring more.Defensively we will need Jogger and Birmingham.One thing about Carlow is keep Marty and Chris Nolan quiet you will be half way there.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1663 - 24/03/2025 15:51:24    2598344

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Replying To Dheen:  "Good win for Westmeath over Kilkenny yesterday evening in the u19 development league. 0-19-1-10."
what way did the game go again offaly didn't see any reports or result on it over the weekend.

oneshot (Tyrone) - Posts: 13 - 25/03/2025 00:17:49    2598456

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Replying To oneshot:  "what way did the game go again offaly didn't see any reports or result on it over the weekend."
Wasn't at it but heard we lost 1-15 to 2-16.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1663 - 25/03/2025 08:23:24    2598475

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Replying To jobber:  "He was immense and looked fitter.We need O Reilly,O Brien and David Williams as well to be scoring more.Defensively we will need Jogger and Birmingham.One thing about Carlow is keep Marty and Chris Nolan quiet you will be half way there."
NOB is a critical one as I feel he offers us all options up front. He can score and can bring lads around him into games. He's not selfish and will find a man in a better position if there. Killian can be guilty of shooting on sight but hard to be annoyed when the majority of his attempts within 100 yards of goal are successful. Still frustrating for inside forwards.

One invaluable thing Carlow possess is doggedness. They will hit and hit hard, they are in your face from the bell. Playing in Kilkenny leagues probably developed this. I feel Westmeath lack in this department and more likely to get in a team mates ear, rather than opposition, when things get tough.

We have issues all over the pitch currently but I'm concerned with the leakiness of our full back line. We have offered goals on plates in most games. Vital that we rectify this before McDonagh.

dakid (Australia) - Posts: 291 - 25/03/2025 09:03:37    2598480

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Replying To dakid:  "NOB is a critical one as I feel he offers us all options up front. He can score and can bring lads around him into games. He's not selfish and will find a man in a better position if there. Killian can be guilty of shooting on sight but hard to be annoyed when the majority of his attempts within 100 yards of goal are successful. Still frustrating for inside forwards.

One invaluable thing Carlow possess is doggedness. They will hit and hit hard, they are in your face from the bell. Playing in Kilkenny leagues probably developed this. I feel Westmeath lack in this department and more likely to get in a team mates ear, rather than opposition, when things get tough.

We have issues all over the pitch currently but I'm concerned with the leakiness of our full back line. We have offered goals on plates in most games. Vital that we rectify this before McDonagh."
Need Doyle and Birmingham ful back and half back retrospectively

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 660 - 25/03/2025 12:40:33    2598519

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Replying To dakid:  "NOB is a critical one as I feel he offers us all options up front. He can score and can bring lads around him into games. He's not selfish and will find a man in a better position if there. Killian can be guilty of shooting on sight but hard to be annoyed when the majority of his attempts within 100 yards of goal are successful. Still frustrating for inside forwards.

One invaluable thing Carlow possess is doggedness. They will hit and hit hard, they are in your face from the bell. Playing in Kilkenny leagues probably developed this. I feel Westmeath lack in this department and more likely to get in a team mates ear, rather than opposition, when things get tough.

We have issues all over the pitch currently but I'm concerned with the leakiness of our full back line. We have offered goals on plates in most games. Vital that we rectify this before McDonagh."
Agree we are far too nice.We have better hurlers than Carlow or Laois but they are tougher and harder.This will be Bulfin's big task along with fitness leves.3 weeks to O Moore Park time for everyone to stand up.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1663 - 25/03/2025 13:05:56    2598529

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