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Replying To Dheen:  "Majority of national media saying 8 pts flattered Na Fianna. I'd agree, Na Fianna were the better team on the day but I felt they were only 3 points better. The sending off of Killian Doyle halted Raharneys charge coming to the end of the game. Na Fianna beat Kilmacud Crokes by 16 pts in the Dublin final.
Raharney definitely gave a good account of themselves and when you consider they needed a goal in the last minute to beat the Gaels, it's safe to say Senior A level in Westmeath is at a quiet decent level. The issue lies between Senior B to Senior A where their is a big gap in quality. I think that's a fair reflection."
Bet ballyboden, not crokes

Premier12345 (Tipperary) - Posts: 38 - 13/11/2023 18:21:51    2512806

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Replying To westmeathgaa11:  "Well that is lies LLG socials state na piarsigh absolutely everywhere, there's a fella that's trying to cause trouble between a successful amalgamation"
Not looking to cause any trouble. I saw the post, it was obviously a mistake & was changed but I still wonder how much respect do LLG have for Turin.

Left Full (Westmeath) - Posts: 238 - 13/11/2023 23:52:30    2512842

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Replying To Premier12345:  "Bet ballyboden, not crokes"
Apologies, Ballyboden

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 680 - 14/11/2023 10:03:01    2512856

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Replying To jobber:  "I dont.You are giving the "Collinstown" team all the credit when Turin have played a huge part in both the under 17 and under 19 achievements.Dont get me wrong its great news LLG have had a fine year with their senior and junior teams as well as their contribution to Na Piarsaigh but talk like that can lead to amalgamation break ups."
And most hurling people know LLG is an amalgamation themselves, so move on

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1884 - 14/11/2023 12:22:37    2512944

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Just as most posters recognise the small mindedness with which you post here regularly

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1382 - 14/11/2023 18:50:07    2513049

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Replying To valley84:  "And most hurling people know LLG is an amalgamation themselves, so move on"
Would you really call LLG an amalgamation, combination of a few clubs from small townlands within the one parish in the 60s

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 205 - 14/11/2023 23:12:04    2513080

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Replying To valley84:  "And most hurling people know LLG is an amalgamation themselves, so move on"
Youre throwing a dig at Lough Lene Gaels club. Many clubs joined up as a result of the economic depression in the 1950s\60s when over half a million left Ireland to keep hurling and football alive in their parts.

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 155 - 15/11/2023 11:34:42    2513127

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Replying To A_Chairde:  "Youre throwing a dig at Lough Lene Gaels club. Many clubs joined up as a result of the economic depression in the 1950s\60s when over half a million left Ireland to keep hurling and football alive in their parts."
If you look at practically all of our clubs they were at one time or another founded as amalgamations of two or more clubs.Population numbers in rural Ireland fell for over a century so they were inevitable.Some clubs were able to adapt to these realities and became successful whilst others kept their heads in the sand and kept going only with bitterness for their neighbours.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1351 - 15/11/2023 19:52:37    2513241

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Replying To A_Chairde:  "Youre throwing a dig at Lough Lene Gaels club. Many clubs joined up as a result of the economic depression in the 1950s\60s when over half a million left Ireland to keep hurling and football alive in their parts."
For those of us who aren't aware of their history, who were the clubs that combined to make LLG?

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 256 - 15/11/2023 23:09:36    2513263

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "For those of us who aren't aware of their history, who were the clubs that combined to make LLG?"
Collinstown, Fore, Glenidan and Rickardstown

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 680 - 16/11/2023 10:53:13    2513300

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Replying To Dheen:  "Collinstown, Fore, Glenidan and Rickardstown"
And Rickardstown produced the greatest Westmeath hurler of all time.

jfd (Westmeath) - Posts: 234 - 16/11/2023 12:30:50    2513331

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Replying To jfd:  "And Rickardstown produced the greatest Westmeath hurler of all time."
The Great Jobber!

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1351 - 16/11/2023 13:01:11    2513341

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Replying To jobber:  "If you look at practically all of our clubs they were at one time or another founded as amalgamations of two or more clubs.Population numbers in rural Ireland fell for over a century so they were inevitable.Some clubs were able to adapt to these realities and became successful whilst others kept their heads in the sand and kept going only with bitterness for their neighbours."
100% jobber (very fitting username!) The Ringtown HC story for example is truly interesting, as they were formally known as Ringtown Cricket Club! Westmeath was once a cricketing stronghold, even amongst the working class people, particularly in the north of the county. But as you know the growth of cultural nationalism and the resurgence of gaelic games during the early 1900s changed the landscape of sport in this country forever. Thus Ringtown CC was renamed Ringtown Myles O'Reillys. I have heard that Ringtown is a townland but the correct name for the townload is Ringstown. The club had disbanded during the 50s/60s but rose again to win the championship in 1980. This Ringtown revival came in the aftermath of a Land Commission transfer of familes from Co Mayo. An influx of new families ( Kilcoynes, Corrigans and Burkes ) into the locality gave the club a new lease of life. If you look at the Ringtown team that won the 1980 championship two third are made up of Kilcoynes, Corrigans and Burkes. The Ringtown team to this day remain backboned by the same families.

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 155 - 16/11/2023 16:03:44    2513384

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Replying To Dheen:  "Collinstown, Fore, Glenidan and Rickardstown"
Just looked up a couple of those places that I'd never even heard of, there seems to have been an awful lot of clubs condensed into a very small area at one time, and I would consider there to be a high concentration of hurling clubs in that general part of the county nowadays with LLG, Pollard, Brownston, Ringtown, Delvin, Turin, Crookedwood all in very close proximity. Imagine trying to amalgamate 4 clubs in the current era

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 256 - 16/11/2023 23:41:21    2513429

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Replying To A_Chairde:  "100% jobber (very fitting username!) The Ringtown HC story for example is truly interesting, as they were formally known as Ringtown Cricket Club! Westmeath was once a cricketing stronghold, even amongst the working class people, particularly in the north of the county. But as you know the growth of cultural nationalism and the resurgence of gaelic games during the early 1900s changed the landscape of sport in this country forever. Thus Ringtown CC was renamed Ringtown Myles O'Reillys. I have heard that Ringtown is a townland but the correct name for the townload is Ringstown. The club had disbanded during the 50s/60s but rose again to win the championship in 1980. This Ringtown revival came in the aftermath of a Land Commission transfer of familes from Co Mayo. An influx of new families ( Kilcoynes, Corrigans and Burkes ) into the locality gave the club a new lease of life. If you look at the Ringtown team that won the 1980 championship two third are made up of Kilcoynes, Corrigans and Burkes. The Ringtown team to this day remain backboned by the same families."
Great post A_Chairde lots of history there.And what a team they were and great service they gave to Westmeath.It would be great if Ringtown and other traditional clubs could return to their glory days but with small populations that wont happen too often.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1351 - 17/11/2023 06:06:57    2513435

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Replying To jobber:  "If you look at practically all of our clubs they were at one time or another founded as amalgamations of two or more clubs.Population numbers in rural Ireland fell for over a century so they were inevitable.Some clubs were able to adapt to these realities and became successful whilst others kept their heads in the sand and kept going only with bitterness for their neighbours."
Southern Gaels is an amalgamation of Walderstown and Athlone.

Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 174 - 17/11/2023 13:54:41    2513495

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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "Just looked up a couple of those places that I'd never even heard of, there seems to have been an awful lot of clubs condensed into a very small area at one time, and I would consider there to be a high concentration of hurling clubs in that general part of the county nowadays with LLG, Pollard, Brownston, Ringtown, Delvin, Turin, Crookedwood all in very close proximity. Imagine trying to amalgamate 4 clubs in the current era"
Delvin to Turin ( 6 mins) to Crookedwood ( 7mins ) to Ringtown ( 7 mins ) to Castlepollard ( 6 mins ) to Lough Lene Gaels ( 8 mins ) to Brownstown ( 11 mins ). If youre a fast mover you could puck a ball over the bar in all 7 grounds inside 1hr.

A_Chairde (Westmeath) - Posts: 155 - 17/11/2023 15:56:42    2513519

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Replying To A_Chairde:  "Delvin to Turin ( 6 mins) to Crookedwood ( 7mins ) to Ringtown ( 7 mins ) to Castlepollard ( 6 mins ) to Lough Lene Gaels ( 8 mins ) to Brownstown ( 11 mins ). If youre a fast mover you could puck a ball over the bar in all 7 grounds inside 1hr."
And none of them with big populations.Thats been the secret of Clonkill high level coaching great volunteers and access to the growing population around Mullingar

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1351 - 17/11/2023 19:15:31    2513546

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Replying To jobber:  "And none of them with big populations.Thats been the secret of Clonkill high level coaching great volunteers and access to the growing population around Mullingar"
Clonkill have a higher membership than all of the clubs in their catchment area. They have a great knack for recruitment too and I'm not talking about tapping into Lomans or the Downs. It's equally as influential in their success along with their setup, facilties and volunteers. This is also somewhere that Cullion upped their game over the last decade but they never made any meaningful progress since that Senior B win.

gedupoutofit (Westmeath) - Posts: 162 - 20/11/2023 19:00:32    2513918

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I presume the county are back training, anyone hear of new names or surprises added to the squad. Or anyone not asked back or did not go in?

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 532 - 24/11/2023 14:07:17    2514472

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