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It's hard to know between Raharney and CTG who'd compete better in Leinster, both have a lot of talent.

Raharney full strength.

1. Aaron McHugh
2. Sean Quinn
3. Jamie Mulkearns
4. Darren Finn
5. Cormac Boyle
6. Robbie Greville
7. David Hickey
8. Gary Greville
9. Eamonn Cunneen
10. Eoin Keyes
11. Killian Doyle
12. Joey Boyle
13. Brian McGrath
14. Ciaran Doyle
15. Eoghan Ahearn




CTG full strength

1. Ciaran Glennon
2. Dean McDermott
3. Johnny Bermingham
4. Naoise McKenna
5. Shane Clavin
6. Liam Varley
7. Morgan Gavigan
8. David Lynch
9. Mick Heeney
10. Plunkett Maxwell
11. Aonghus Clarke
12. Peter Clarke
13. Niall O'Brien
14. David O'Reilly
15. Peter Murphy

Both match up comparably, a mixture of youth and experience. Both can represent Westmeath in Leinster and make progress going forward.
Looking at the teams at full strength you'd have to say they could possibly dominate between them for the next few years anyway.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 680 - 12/09/2023 17:46:20    2504036

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Replying To Premier12345:  "Dublin champions probably be crokes, they are 20 points better than anything in westmeath."
Depends on how much effort westmeath put in wedtmeath champs are that far behind Dublin champs usually we see tho but i think this exaggerated

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 201 - 12/09/2023 18:03:50    2504039

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Replying To Premier12345:  "Dublin champions probably be crokes, they are 20 points better than anything in westmeath."
That sounds petty Premier, whether you intended that or not.
Castle town and Raharney are quite well balanced teams and whoever does win will be competitive come the Leinster championship.
Clonkill were unlucky not to take Ballyboden in 2020 I believe.

35OLT (USA) - Posts: 80 - 13/09/2023 00:48:49    2504059

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Replying To 35OLT:  "That sounds petty Premier, whether you intended that or not.
Castle town and Raharney are quite well balanced teams and whoever does win will be competitive come the Leinster championship.
Clonkill were unlucky not to take Ballyboden in 2020 I believe."
Correct. Draw after normal time. Uncharacteristically Brendan Murtagh missed a penalty. To where Clonkill are now it seems a lifetime away.

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 98 - 13/09/2023 07:56:22    2504064

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Liam Varley must be posting on this forum himself at this stage!! He hasn't hurled for club in two years or county in 4-5 and yet he's getting better. Lads will have Ger Jackson on the Castletown team at this rate

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1382 - 13/09/2023 08:24:34    2504068

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Clonkill gave ballyboden a great game in parnell Park , pushed them all the way. But crokes absolutely hammered raharney, 5 19 to 15 points in mullingar in 2021. Crokes are very strong all across the pitch . Nothing against westmeath clubs at all. Just think crokes will get to a leinster final again. Ctg were fairly hammered by shamrocks last year 5 25 to 15, and crokes went toe to toe with shamrocks in croke park.

Premier12345 (Tipperary) - Posts: 38 - 13/09/2023 08:25:40    2504069

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Standard or referees and officials.
I know as a county we're v stuck for referees and there's very few young refs signing up. But apparently in one of the Senior B games at the weekend a player suffered a nasty eye injury, off the ball, requiring hospital treatment, meanwhile the referee and both umpires saw nothing......The incident was not not dealt with.
I completely understand that a hurling game moves at a frantic pace but surely we can do better.

Bigjoe1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 35 - 13/09/2023 09:47:25    2504081

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Liam Varley must be posting on this forum himself at this stage!! He hasn't hurled for club in two years or county in 4-5 and yet he's getting better. Lads will have Ger Jackson on the Castletown team at this rate"
He hurled in the county final last year!!

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 680 - 13/09/2023 10:43:39    2504094

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Liam Varley must be posting on this forum himself at this stage!! He hasn't hurled for club in two years or county in 4-5 and yet he's getting better. Lads will have Ger Jackson on the Castletown team at this rate"
Still good player if was around don't think many said getting better.He did play Castletown last year for most I believe so

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 201 - 13/09/2023 10:49:30    2504098

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Replying To Bigjoe1:  "Standard or referees and officials.
I know as a county we're v stuck for referees and there's very few young refs signing up. But apparently in one of the Senior B games at the weekend a player suffered a nasty eye injury, off the ball, requiring hospital treatment, meanwhile the referee and both umpires saw nothing......The incident was not not dealt with.
I completely understand that a hurling game moves at a frantic pace but surely we can do better."
What do you propose if none of the officials see something? Send off a random player?

martyW (Westmeath) - Posts: 314 - 13/09/2023 12:42:47    2504134

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Replying To overdabar:  "Preddan, I admire your interest in Westmeath hurling. I presume you are a Kildare man. However to be still in with a chance of winning the championship after 3 defeats would be farcical. Pollard and Clonkill have been defeated 3 times. I believe this format has gotten rid of dead rubber games. All championship games are high intenity from the get go since the format was introduced. Anyway Raharney safely through to the final. Castletown hot favourites to join them. The Gaels would need to produce the performance of their lives in the semi final. Not impossible. They gave Castletown a huge headstart yesterday and were always chasing the game."
No not from Kildare only living there now,my late mother spent many years in Westmeath when she was young working there (ctg and finea areas)and had great memories of the people and the places.
On the club Leinster front unfortunately I don't think we will see a Westmeath breakthrough at Leinster level at the moment,I think the big 3 might have gone back a bit especially clonkill. There definitely was a window of opportunity in the years between 2009 Upto the last couple of years. Clonkill in 2009 smashing the post against tullamore,raharney a year later against the ai favourites oulart out by a point in the fog, raharney taking a good kilcormac team to extra time another year and other lost opportunities,ctg against MLR,clonkill v ballyboden. I genuinely thought and always hoped in those years a Leinster final was v possible but sadly didn't happen

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 715 - 13/09/2023 20:37:43    2504211

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Replying To preddan:  "No not from Kildare only living there now,my late mother spent many years in Westmeath when she was young working there (ctg and finea areas)and had great memories of the people and the places.
On the club Leinster front unfortunately I don't think we will see a Westmeath breakthrough at Leinster level at the moment,I think the big 3 might have gone back a bit especially clonkill. There definitely was a window of opportunity in the years between 2009 Upto the last couple of years. Clonkill in 2009 smashing the post against tullamore,raharney a year later against the ai favourites oulart out by a point in the fog, raharney taking a good kilcormac team to extra time another year and other lost opportunities,ctg against MLR,clonkill v ballyboden. I genuinely thought and always hoped in those years a Leinster final was v possible but sadly didn't happen"
I think the current CTG and Raharney outfits have the potential for a good run in Leinster but it depends on how serious they take it and what players they have available for the campaign too.
Castletown are starting to be seriously strengthened by a 3 in a row minor winning crop. David O'Reilly, Peter Murphy, David Maloney, Peter Clarke and Sean Jackson showed what they are capable of for Westmeath in the u20 Leinster championship this year and are all underage again next year. So I don't think they have gone back at all, they are that bit stronger if anything and still missing 3/4 important players due to travel etc.
I can see Clonkill finding it difficult for the next few years, Lough Lene Gaels have their number and Oliver Plunketts are going to come up to Senior A and hold their place there I reckon too.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 680 - 14/09/2023 11:15:29    2504243

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Replying To Dheen:  "I think the current CTG and Raharney outfits have the potential for a good run in Leinster but it depends on how serious they take it and what players they have available for the campaign too.
Castletown are starting to be seriously strengthened by a 3 in a row minor winning crop. David O'Reilly, Peter Murphy, David Maloney, Peter Clarke and Sean Jackson showed what they are capable of for Westmeath in the u20 Leinster championship this year and are all underage again next year. So I don't think they have gone back at all, they are that bit stronger if anything and still missing 3/4 important players due to travel etc.
I can see Clonkill finding it difficult for the next few years, Lough Lene Gaels have their number and Oliver Plunketts are going to come up to Senior A and hold their place there I reckon too."
It's possibly a bit early for Plunketts. If they go up this year I could see them going straight back down, going up again, and then establishing themselves the second time around. They have loads of quality coming though, but they won't get any new players next year with minor going to u18.

jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 439 - 14/09/2023 11:27:28    2504245

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It's going back to 2015 the last time a Westmeath team won a Leinster senior club match if my memory serves me correctly. Would be great to see a run happen but I wouldn't be getting overly excited about it happening this year.

iarmhi_an_mhaith (Westmeath) - Posts: 266 - 14/09/2023 12:25:11    2504251

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Replying To iarmhi_an_mhaith:  "It's going back to 2015 the last time a Westmeath team won a Leinster senior club match if my memory serves me correctly. Would be great to see a run happen but I wouldn't be getting overly excited about it happening this year."
In fairness we've been getting either the Kilkenny or Dublin champions in the first round the last few years!

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 680 - 14/09/2023 13:13:26    2504255

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Replying To Dheen:  "I think the current CTG and Raharney outfits have the potential for a good run in Leinster but it depends on how serious they take it and what players they have available for the campaign too.
Castletown are starting to be seriously strengthened by a 3 in a row minor winning crop. David O'Reilly, Peter Murphy, David Maloney, Peter Clarke and Sean Jackson showed what they are capable of for Westmeath in the u20 Leinster championship this year and are all underage again next year. So I don't think they have gone back at all, they are that bit stronger if anything and still missing 3/4 important players due to travel etc.
I can see Clonkill finding it difficult for the next few years, Lough Lene Gaels have their number and Oliver Plunketts are going to come up to Senior A and hold their place there I reckon too."
Its not too often I strongly disagree with you Dheen but I dont see Plunketts,Ringtown or the Wood doing anything in Senior A in 2024.The Senior B is very competitive with injuries and travel being the only difference between top and bottom.Plunketts in 2022 won a relegation play off by a point.
The standard in the B is miles behind A and despite big improvements at underage that is not going to begin to change till at least 2026.
Raharney and Castletown are excellent teams but are unlikely to trouble Crokes just yet but with if they can hold these quality young players that wont be long coming.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1352 - 14/09/2023 14:19:44    2504263

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Two additions to Westmeath senior hurling management team were rumoured to be on cards.

John Shaw from Raharney and Kevin O'Brien from Clonkill are set to replace Casey and Greville.... O'Brien was part of Michael Fennellys management team in Offaly which could prove vital as westmeath will be contesting with Offaly to retain Division 1 status and will also compete in the Joe Mc Donagh. John Shaw who was involved with U20 and minor management over last number of years will have a good knowledge of the up and coming talent

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 98 - 14/09/2023 16:09:09    2504277

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Replying To Greenandgoldie:  "Two additions to Westmeath senior hurling management team were rumoured to be on cards.

John Shaw from Raharney and Kevin O'Brien from Clonkill are set to replace Casey and Greville.... O'Brien was part of Michael Fennellys management team in Offaly which could prove vital as westmeath will be contesting with Offaly to retain Division 1 status and will also compete in the Joe Mc Donagh. John Shaw who was involved with U20 and minor management over last number of years will have a good knowledge of the up and coming talent"
Doubt that very much. For one I'd say Clonkill will be eager to get O*Been back if his time in offaly is over. John would be too busy with work to commit to a intercounty set up.

Onionbagger (Westmeath) - Posts: 76 - 14/09/2023 18:18:26    2504293

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Some interesting games this weekend.

Senior B semi final Ringtown vs Crookedwood.
I'll go Ringtown by 3.
Senior B relegation decider Delvin vs Brownstown.
Delvin by 2.
Senior A semi final CTG vs Lough Lene Gaels.
Castletown by 2.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 680 - 18/09/2023 14:44:30    2504628

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Replying To Dheen:  "Some interesting games this weekend.

Senior B semi final Ringtown vs Crookedwood.
I'll go Ringtown by 3.
Senior B relegation decider Delvin vs Brownstown.
Delvin by 2.
Senior A semi final CTG vs Lough Lene Gaels.
Castletown by 2."
Agree with two out of three.

I feel Brownstown will repeat the result from earlier in the year and win by 1

Greenandgoldie (Westmeath) - Posts: 98 - 18/09/2023 15:26:40    2504635

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