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Replying To stonemadbeany:  "Michael Broder played hurling with Daltons so I'd imagine he has a bit of interest. Showing my age now but I don't remember playing Moate or Rosemount in the late eighties in underage hurling, open to correction of course though, but need to see facts, I'll ask a few older lads in the club and see what they say."
I played against Moate and Garrycastle but don't remember Rosemount.
There's reference to Garrycastle hurling on their webpage at that time but can't find anything about Moate. I think they were trying to field but were struggling. Don't think they lasted long. Garrycastle webpage says they gave it up due to lack of pitch space.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1031 - 04/07/2023 11:23:32    2492083

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Utter nonsense. Rosemount have not had a hurling team in 5-6 decades, Moate likewise. Moate school winning a hurling title means nothing, zero. What clubs were the players with? Clara, Ballycumber, Tubber, Fr. Dalton's. Try to answer the questions posed, who would train this new club? Existing hurling areas struggling for mentors and players, at least add some realism to the argument"
What's your solution to the population problems?There's too many clubs in one area and not enough in the other. Both points are valid. The new clubs thing is being done in other counties.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1031 - 04/07/2023 11:32:41    2492088

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Name the new clubs formed in other areas?

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1948 - 04/07/2023 12:47:59    2492122

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Name the new clubs formed in other areas?"
Example:

Located in the Bailieborough, Kingscourt, Shercock, Mullagh and Virginia areas in the eastern part of the county, East Cavan Gaels GAA Club was founded in 2009. Using a regional model devised by the club, it was established to promote and develop the game of hurling in an area where Gaelic football had been dominant. East Cavan Gaels currently participate in the Cavan SHC.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1031 - 04/07/2023 13:32:37    2492132

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Incredible results in all of the hurling championships last weekend.In the A Pollard and the Gaels defeating Raharney and Clonkill with Fr Daltons running the champions to a goal.All good competitive games.Good to see Aonghus Clarke back.In the B Ringtown,Plunketts and Brownstown all had good wins.Are Cullion and Delvin gone backwards?
In the intermediate great to see Turin and Southern Gaels winning but Castletown will be hard to beat.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1614 - 05/07/2023 14:22:15    2492432

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Replying To jobber:  "Incredible results in all of the hurling championships last weekend.In the A Pollard and the Gaels defeating Raharney and Clonkill with Fr Daltons running the champions to a goal.All good competitive games.Good to see Aonghus Clarke back.In the B Ringtown,Plunketts and Brownstown all had good wins.Are Cullion and Delvin gone backwards?
In the intermediate great to see Turin and Southern Gaels winning but Castletown will be hard to beat."
Early days yet jobber. A cute hoor from Kerry always reminds me that no c'ship medals are given out at this stage of the year.

Senior B is always incredibly close. Similar sized squads and resources. A couple of key players are unavailable for whatever reason and any team is up against it. Or perhaps a football team supplying dual players and is on a run that detracts from the corresponding hurling team. Back room changes etc. Doesn't take too much to swing it.

For Senior it's been a long time since one of the big three didn't the title. Even for another team to make a final itself, the big three tend to get their act together just in time to make a semi-final. Nonetheless, I don't want to discredit Pollard or the Gaels, it's great to see them do well. Clonkill is probably still in a bit of a transition. Stalwarts like Dowdall and Murtagh having long careers at an elite level are exceptional. No more than Darren McCormack for Pollard. It's not like you can copy-paste replacements for the county's best hurlers in the last 20 years.

gedupoutofit (Westmeath) - Posts: 172 - 05/07/2023 15:02:17    2492449

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Replying To gedupoutofit:  "Early days yet jobber. A cute hoor from Kerry always reminds me that no c'ship medals are given out at this stage of the year.

Senior B is always incredibly close. Similar sized squads and resources. A couple of key players are unavailable for whatever reason and any team is up against it. Or perhaps a football team supplying dual players and is on a run that detracts from the corresponding hurling team. Back room changes etc. Doesn't take too much to swing it.

For Senior it's been a long time since one of the big three didn't the title. Even for another team to make a final itself, the big three tend to get their act together just in time to make a semi-final. Nonetheless, I don't want to discredit Pollard or the Gaels, it's great to see them do well. Clonkill is probably still in a bit of a transition. Stalwarts like Dowdall and Murtagh having long careers at an elite level are exceptional. No more than Darren McCormack for Pollard. It's not like you can copy-paste replacements for the county's best hurlers in the last 20 years."
Of course early days and in all probability one of the big 3 will still win but this year one of them might not make the semi final.Pollard have the bit between their teeth and wont fear anyone.Gaels a lot of young players and great credit due to Fr.Daltons.
I dont think anybody could call the B now all of them contenders to win the championship but could face the drop as well, Its that open.But it has to be good news for Westmeath hurling.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1614 - 05/07/2023 15:22:41    2492460

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Stop posting nonsense Valley. Name the people who would coach a Moate hurling team? Deal with reality not posting pie in the sky stuff. What towns do Raharney and Castletown poach from?"
Raharney get players from kinnegad.
Castletown from Kilbeggan, moate and anywhere else they can!

So as pointed out by other posters, other counties are developing new hurling clubs but for some reason it would be unthinkable in Westmeath.

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1901 - 05/07/2023 15:51:35    2492471

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Raharney have always got players from Kinnegad, hardly news, Larry Giles and John Fleming were key players 30 years ago when Raharney won championships, the Fennells and others from Kilbeggan have hurled with CTG for years. No idea who from Moate ever hurled with them.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1948 - 05/07/2023 16:15:39    2492482

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Replying To valley84:  "Raharney get players from kinnegad.
Castletown from Kilbeggan, moate and anywhere else they can!

So as pointed out by other posters, other counties are developing new hurling clubs but for some reason it would be unthinkable in Westmeath."
Nonsense who from moated or athletes have they posched Kilbeggan literally neighbours so why wouldn't not like they poach everyone same clonkill from mullingsr and raharney kilucan .Ctg don't take from everywhere they can same for all clubs .

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 539 - 05/07/2023 19:20:26    2492521

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Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "Nonsense who from moated or athletes have they posched Kilbeggan literally neighbours so why wouldn't not like they poach everyone same clonkill from mullingsr and raharney kilucan .Ctg don't take from everywhere they can same for all clubs ."
CTG have players from Rosemount and Tyrrellspass.

jfd (Westmeath) - Posts: 254 - 06/07/2023 09:59:18    2492573

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The lads who are getting upset and accusing others of talking nonsense keep introducing the word "poached" which the original posters never used.
The facts are the successful clubs have a very big pick of players.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1031 - 06/07/2023 14:16:21    2492667

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Rosemount had an underage hurling team in the early to mid nighties. From what I remember, the local priest set it up. Players were mostly from the surrounding area including Moate and Streamstown. They have produced a few good hurlers also going back the years, with players now playing for both Fr Daltons & Castletown. David McCormack, Plunkett Maxwell and David O Reilly all won senior championships in the last few years and The Fr Daltons captain last year was a Rosemount man I think. It would make sense to have a hurling club in Moate, as it has a big population and a large catchment area but I can't ever see it happening.

blackyconners (Westmeath) - Posts: 39 - 06/07/2023 18:03:41    2492734

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Replying To jfd:  "CTG have players from Rosemount and Tyrrellspass."
2 from Rosemount there is nobody from tyrellspass they generally play for St Brigid's

DanGer966 (Westmeath) - Posts: 29 - 06/07/2023 18:55:17    2492739

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "The lads who are getting upset and accusing others of talking nonsense keep introducing the word "poached" which the original posters never used.
The facts are the successful clubs have a very big pick of players."
No problems there.Nevertheless the Na Piarsaig amalgamation is clearly having an effect on Turins neighbours at underage.The awakening of Brigids and Fr Daltons improvement may affect the black and ambers which might explain the angry reaction of some to the idea of a Rosemount underage or Moate underage team

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1614 - 06/07/2023 20:50:04    2492756

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Replying To DanGer966:  "2 from Rosemount there is nobody from tyrellspass they generally play for St Brigid's"
I think there are players from Tyrrellspass football team with CTG, going down to underage also. CTG are moving into Brigids territory it seems.

jfd (Westmeath) - Posts: 254 - 07/07/2023 10:08:27    2492802

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Great performances from Castlepollard, Lough Lene Gaels and Fr Daltons sets us up for a competitive Senior A championship. Castletown just had a enough to spare over Fr Daltons, but were missing David O'Reilly, Liam Varley, David Lynch, Mick Heeney etc and as the championship wears on they'll probably introduce more youngsters such as Peter Murphy and Sean Jackson depending on how the intermediate is going.
Pollard going well minus Tommy Gallagher, Darragh McCormack and David Higgins, they could make the final this year if they can keep building the momentum.
A Gaels Pollard final would be brilliant but unlikely.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 965 - 07/07/2023 18:03:48    2493000

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Replying To jfd:  "I think there are players from Tyrrellspass football team with CTG, going down to underage also. CTG are moving into Brigids territory it seems."
No from tpass playing or if so maybe one but 2 Rosemount no hurling club there so not their fault they could play Dalton or ctg . Killbeggan no club so of course they will play ctg or brigids. They ain't only club don't see the big issue until other clubs from hurling teams and other clubs use players from other clubs too with being less hurling teams. If people have issue maybe form clubs in more areas.

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 539 - 08/07/2023 11:18:48    2493092

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Anyway never mind that talk tasty fixtures next week in westmeath Hurling especially Senior A

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 539 - 08/07/2023 11:38:37    2493096

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Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "Anyway never mind that talk tasty fixtures next week in westmeath Hurling especially Senior A"
Looking forward to Pollard and the Gaels Sunday evening.Time was it was theee fixture.The winner must have a huge chance of making semi final.Clonkill v Castletown on Saturday is another big one.Raharney should beat Daltons but the Ballymore lads proved themselves tough opponents against the champions.
Senior B also good Mullingar derby Plunketts V Cullion Two of the traditional top clubs Ringtown v Brownstown and Delvin v the Wood both desperate for a win.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1614 - 11/07/2023 19:15:44    2493881

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