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Replying To ecad123:  "Your destiny is in your own hands, would ye like Kilkenny to give ye the game?"
Think he was talking about for their own sakes? Westmeath need to stay up as much as we do. If we beat Kilkenny for the 9th or 10th time in the last 13 odd games they will go down if they lose to Antrim.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 28/05/2023 11:54:10    2482111

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We deserve to be relegated after that woeful performance. A lot of lads on the starting team that wouldn't start for some of the club teams in Westmeath. The Wexford result doesn't count for much now, as I said before the Wexford game we are probably better off going down to Joe Mcdonagh and rebuilding with a new team.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 769 - 28/05/2023 15:52:01    2482183

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Didn't think that result was going to happen, huge disappointment, team didn't perform at all today... It's like they were distracted about the other game not to focus on the game fully and expect wex to lose to kk. Didn't like the defeatest attitude by the mlr team either saying team is Joe McDonagh and not quite good enough for liam Mccarthy. That's throwing in the towel more or less.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 28/05/2023 15:59:32    2482189

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Replying To preddan:  "Didn't think that result was going to happen, huge disappointment, team didn't perform at all today... It's like they were distracted about the other game not to focus on the game fully and expect wex to lose to kk. Didn't like the defeatest attitude by the mlr team either saying team is Joe McDonagh and not quite good enough for liam Mccarthy. That's throwing in the towel more or less."
We can go down to Joe Mcdonagh now and rebuild, the u20 and minor teams next year will be strong. Start filtering some of these lads through whilst at Joe Mcdonagh.
I'd say Fortune will call it a day now.. whoever comes in needs to make sure we get Killian Doyle, Aonghus Clarke, Liam Varley, Josh Coll, David Hickey all involved.
We need our best players.
Hugely disappointing today but it was deserved.. aside from the Wexford game we just didn't perform all through the championship, and vs Wexford it was only one half that we played well.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 769 - 28/05/2023 16:32:10    2482197

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Today was a reality check as to where we stand, Antrim gave us a hurling lesson, speed, touch, catching, only for the black card it would have been twenty points, we had no one to catch a ball, striking was poor, Antrim's forwards were dynamic, our fitness and speed were inferior, that was obvious as the game progressed, doubtful we'll see likes of Derek Mc again, brilliant servant.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 28/05/2023 17:28:23    2482214

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Hard luck lads. Fine margins. You are still on an upward trajectory though!!!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 28/05/2023 17:46:50    2482223

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Today was a reality check as to where we stand, Antrim gave us a hurling lesson, speed, touch, catching, only for the black card it would have been twenty points, we had no one to catch a ball, striking was poor, Antrim's forwards were dynamic, our fitness and speed were inferior, that was obvious as the game progressed, doubtful we'll see likes of Derek Mc again, brilliant servant."
It doesn't add up. Westmeath beating Wexford who beat Kilkenny today. Westmeath getting turned over heavily today. Good enough but lack consistently unfortunately. Like us.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 28/05/2023 18:06:16    2482231

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Replying To Dheen:  "We deserve to be relegated after that woeful performance. A lot of lads on the starting team that wouldn't start for some of the club teams in Westmeath. The Wexford result doesn't count for much now, as I said before the Wexford game we are probably better off going down to Joe Mcdonagh and rebuilding with a new team."
I dont agree we needed to stay up however we could. Some of The worst players were stars of top clubs.Wedidnt deserve to win today Antrim were better but why was the game in Wexford held up for 10 minutes and why was Kilkenny's goal at the end disallowed.These are legitimate questions and should be asked.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1445 - 28/05/2023 18:06:21    2482232

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Today was a reality check as to where we stand, Antrim gave us a hurling lesson, speed, touch, catching, only for the black card it would have been twenty points, we had no one to catch a ball, striking was poor, Antrim's forwards were dynamic, our fitness and speed were inferior, that was obvious as the game progressed, doubtful we'll see likes of Derek Mc again, brilliant servant."
Well they looked like they had a plan anyway which I felt we didn't. Left it late to put Mitchell on as well and Antrim had a plan for him too.
Peter Clarke was excellent when he came on. Hopefully Andrew Dermody is kept on with the u20s next year, our focus should be on that group going forward.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 769 - 28/05/2023 18:10:53    2482238

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Today was a reality check as to where we stand, Antrim gave us a hurling lesson, speed, touch, catching, only for the black card it would have been twenty points, we had no one to catch a ball, striking was poor, Antrim's forwards were dynamic, our fitness and speed were inferior, that was obvious as the game progressed, doubtful we'll see likes of Derek Mc again, brilliant servant."
It doesn't add up. Westmeath beating Wexford who beat Kilkenny today. Westmeath getting turned over heavily today. Good enough but lack consistently unfortunately. Like us.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 28/05/2023 18:13:24    2482242

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We were all at sea, first touch, movement, distribution no where needed at this level, thought they could have brought Mitchell on sooner, but in saying that Antrim were ready for him and had him well shackled.
The Joe Mac D will be no push over next year, Laois, Offaly, Kerry all looking to progress. Dissapointing end to the xseason.

Bigjoe1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 38 - 28/05/2023 18:28:43    2482249

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Replying To Canuck:  "It doesn't add up. Westmeath beating Wexford who beat Kilkenny today. Westmeath getting turned over heavily today. Good enough but lack consistently unfortunately. Like us."
lets be honest we are not as good as Waterford but oor small panel has played 10 matches in 13 weeks against all the top teams and in the end we failed.But there are legitimate questions to be asked about the shenanigans in Wexford.The traffic jam which conveniently held the game up for 10 minutes and the alleged throw ball for Kilkennys sixth goal.We have had a week of top commentators telling us Wexford could not go down.Well???????
Where were they in 2022 for Laois nor will they appear for Westmeath.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1445 - 28/05/2023 18:32:00    2482251

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Replying To jobber:  "I dont agree we needed to stay up however we could. Some of The worst players were stars of top clubs.Wedidnt deserve to win today Antrim were better but why was the game in Wexford held up for 10 minutes and why was Kilkenny's goal at the end disallowed.These are legitimate questions and should be asked."
Are you saying something further at play here, were the gaas powers that be sweating if wexford finished bottom. If they did it was going to be an almighty headache if a so called elite county taking the drop and deal with an outcry of hurling elitists. It suited them antrim or westmeath going down and nothing said. I definitely don't think kilkenny were going full pelt today either

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 28/05/2023 18:41:35    2482253

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Not remotely good enough, a few mins against a complacent Wexford doesn't hide that, today at home with a decent support for a change and we were beaten easily. I'd be surprised if Joe Fortune stays on. Antrim had the best 7/8 hurlers on the field

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1478 - 28/05/2023 18:46:10    2482258

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Replying To jobber:  "I dont agree we needed to stay up however we could. Some of The worst players were stars of top clubs.Wedidnt deserve to win today Antrim were better but why was the game in Wexford held up for 10 minutes and why was Kilkenny's goal at the end disallowed.These are legitimate questions and should be asked."
Which goal was disallowed?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 28/05/2023 18:48:54    2482261

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Replying To jobber:  "I dont agree we needed to stay up however we could. Some of The worst players were stars of top clubs.Wedidnt deserve to win today Antrim were better but why was the game in Wexford held up for 10 minutes and why was Kilkenny's goal at the end disallowed.These are legitimate questions and should be asked."
Our game being held up made no difference. It was pretty apparent as the 2nd half unfolded in your game that we had to win ours.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 28/05/2023 18:50:17    2482262

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Replying To jobber:  "I dont agree we needed to stay up however we could. Some of The worst players were stars of top clubs.Wedidnt deserve to win today Antrim were better but why was the game in Wexford held up for 10 minutes and why was Kilkenny's goal at the end disallowed.These are legitimate questions and should be asked."
What goal?

The game was delayed because there was a queue of about 500 yards 5 deep trying to get in to the covered stand.

This is not uncommon for big games.

For what it's worth, I am disappointed for Westmeath, and particularly Joe fortune.

There's no conspiracy though, just an excellent wexford display in front of a packed wexford park

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2625 - 28/05/2023 19:03:24    2482269

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Replying To Viking66:  "Which goal was disallowed?"
Are you talking about the time the ball ended up in the net after play was already stopped for a free out?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 28/05/2023 19:19:40    2482280

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Replying To preddan:  "Are you saying something further at play here, were the gaas powers that be sweating if wexford finished bottom. If they did it was going to be an almighty headache if a so called elite county taking the drop and deal with an outcry of hurling elitists. It suited them antrim or westmeath going down and nothing said. I definitely don't think kilkenny were going full pelt today either"
3 of their best players went off injured. They scored 5 goals. They were at full tilt after losing their 2 previous Senior games against us. They were playing hard. Why wouldn't they be?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 28/05/2023 19:21:45    2482281

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Replying To jobber:  "lets be honest we are not as good as Waterford but oor small panel has played 10 matches in 13 weeks against all the top teams and in the end we failed.But there are legitimate questions to be asked about the shenanigans in Wexford.The traffic jam which conveniently held the game up for 10 minutes and the alleged throw ball for Kilkennys sixth goal.We have had a week of top commentators telling us Wexford could not go down.Well???????
Where were they in 2022 for Laois nor will they appear for Westmeath."
The free out was awarded before the ball was in the net.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 28/05/2023 19:22:27    2482282

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