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Replying To CleanShoulder:  "Absolutely beggars belief that the senior hurling management see fit to draft back in a retired 39 year old whilst dropping one of the top young talents at the same time. Don't get me wrong, McNicholas has given tremendous service and for a long time was one of our finest but his day is well and truly done, which is a pity as we could do with more like him in his prime. But what message does this send out to the rest of the squad or younger players coming up? Same thing happened with Murtagh a couple of years back and that turned out to be a terrible decision as well. It really doesn't bode well for either short term or long term prospects if this is deemed the way forward!"
Maybe there is another point being made to someone? Sometimes top prospects need a boot up the hole to unlock their potential .

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10204 - 18/03/2023 11:19:29    2464429

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No defending this decision by Joe Fortune and management. It's not as if Derek Mc has been shooting the lights out in club matches as we've had none. Amateurish carry on.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1267 - 18/03/2023 12:26:07    2464451

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Comprehensive win for the minors today despite being without some key players.
Would have been even more convincing only for conceding a couple of soft goals at the very end.
McNamee, Heffernan, Larkin and Ready look like great prospects.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 632 - 18/03/2023 15:22:09    2464482

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Super display by Pat Clarke's charges. Dominated against the breeze in first half and maintained that throughout with a couple of late Meath goals putting a false look on the scoreline. Darragh Kenny from Clonkill, Darragh Smith from Na Piarsaigh, Conaire Martin Fr.,Dalton's, Neale Pierson CTG, Conor Leech Na Piarsaigh, Ben McNamee from Plunketts, Conor Heffernan Na Piarsaigh and Winston McHugh and Caolan Reidy Raharney were all very good, Heffernan must have scored 8-9 points, Leech 1-2, McNamee 1-1, every player played his part. Usual story with our support as Meath outnumbered us comprehensively in the stand. Skill levels were impressive against a physically strong Meath side.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1267 - 18/03/2023 16:14:00    2464492

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Super display by Pat Clarke's charges. Dominated against the breeze in first half and maintained that throughout with a couple of late Meath goals putting a false look on the scoreline. Darragh Kenny from Clonkill, Darragh Smith from Na Piarsaigh, Conaire Martin Fr.,Dalton's, Neale Pierson CTG, Conor Leech Na Piarsaigh, Ben McNamee from Plunketts, Conor Heffernan Na Piarsaigh and Winston McHugh and Caolan Reidy Raharney were all very good, Heffernan must have scored 8-9 points, Leech 1-2, McNamee 1-1, every player played his part. Usual story with our support as Meath outnumbered us comprehensively in the stand. Skill levels were impressive against a physically strong Meath side."
Great summary Claretandblue

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 632 - 18/03/2023 16:34:30    2464501

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I agree with Donal Og when he says hurling not getting the support required. Westmeath a great example of one of the teams with potential to be competitive at the top level. To me you need to have a separate hurling program administered by hurling people. You can't have football people doing this and I am not anti football growing up in a football parish only. The first aim is to stop double digit beatings and I don't care if that means three sweepers.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2629 - 18/03/2023 19:24:08    2464539

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Three sweepers won't prevent any such thing. Modern top teams score 30+ points at their ease these days. Limerick beat us easily last Sunday with only one goal. What can Croke Park do? Westmeath is a dual county, like it or not. We have a small population base in the hurling areas and money won't change that, not unless you pump in millions.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1267 - 18/03/2023 21:14:48    2464600

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Three sweepers won't prevent any such thing. Modern top teams score 30+ points at their ease these days. Limerick beat us easily last Sunday with only one goal. What can Croke Park do? Westmeath is a dual county, like it or not. We have a small population base in the hurling areas and money won't change that, not unless you pump in millions."
You need to spread hurling to all the clubs.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 10204 - 18/03/2023 21:45:38    2464618

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Replying To Viking66:  "You need to spread hurling to all the clubs."
North Westmeath with its small population is almost totally hurling.Mullingar has been a disaster area for the sport for at least half a century but Oliver Plunketts and Cullion are beginning to work. 5 Plunketts lads on the minor panel a testament to that. We havent seen that since Tony Donoghue was leading the club.The South has always been football dominated except for Castletown Geoghegan but Father Daltons and Southern Gaels in Athlone are now working hard. Most Westmeath GAA players even in the south are now dual even in places like Rosemount.
Athlone and Mullingar are the key to Westmeath being truly competitive at the highest level.Without top class clubs in both towns our ambitions wont be achieved.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1314 - 19/03/2023 08:09:42    2464630

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Replying To Viking66:  "You need to spread hurling to all the clubs."
I agree, Viking. Over the years I don't believe enough has been done to "spread the gospel" in non-traditional areas, where football seems to be all that matters. Some years ago there were signs that hurling might start to flourish as a result of work being done at primary school level in places such as Tang, Coosan and Rosemount but for some reason it didn't happen. Father Daltons and Southern Gaels are still flying the flag and if they could get near the level of Castletown-Geoghegan it would mean that hurling would have a higher profile in the south of the county, which could only be good for Westmeath hurling.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 515 - 19/03/2023 10:48:39    2464648

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Replying To midlands:  "I agree, Viking. Over the years I don't believe enough has been done to "spread the gospel" in non-traditional areas, where football seems to be all that matters. Some years ago there were signs that hurling might start to flourish as a result of work being done at primary school level in places such as Tang, Coosan and Rosemount but for some reason it didn't happen. Father Daltons and Southern Gaels are still flying the flag and if they could get near the level of Castletown-Geoghegan it would mean that hurling would have a higher profile in the south of the county, which could only be good for Westmeath hurling."
I have to say, from what I see both Fr Daltons and Southern Gaels are putting a lot of work to get up to the standard of CTG.
Fr Daltons are now a Senior A side and they have a lot of talented young lads coming through, I was very impressed with Connaire Martin at centre back for the county minors yesterday.
Southern Gaels are promoting the game left right and centre down in Athlone if social media is anything to go by. They've started a camogie team down there for the very first time too.
They have probably the highest playing numbers they've ever had. They need a team to come and make a break through at Division 1 underage level to push it on further, but I've a feeling that's coming.
Plunketts and Cullion have got their act together big time and yesterday's county minor team was only the beginning of it with a big Plunketts representation.
Those are the clubs we need to see on the rise, because we'll always get talented stickmen from the traditional clubs Raharney, CTG, Pollard, Clonkill, Lough Lene Gaels.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 632 - 19/03/2023 11:26:27    2464655

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Match went along expected lines although in dire conditions and at home a 24 point beating is worrying. Our touch was poor again and we faded significantly as match wore on, fitness levels looked suspect in contrast to the Galway players. Next Saturday's match against Laois looks a 50-50 contest, no venue given yet, we should be able to beat them but understandably our confidence levels look low after a difficult five matches.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1267 - 19/03/2023 16:22:42    2464787

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Match went along expected lines although in dire conditions and at home a 24 point beating is worrying. Our touch was poor again and we faded significantly as match wore on, fitness levels looked suspect in contrast to the Galway players. Next Saturday's match against Laois looks a 50-50 contest, no venue given yet, we should be able to beat them but understandably our confidence levels look low after a difficult five matches."
I won't be surprised of its in Portlaoise as every time we play them it's there.
Will Killian Doyle and Niall Mitchell be back?

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 632 - 19/03/2023 16:40:15    2464798

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Replying To Dheen:  "I won't be surprised of its in Portlaoise as every time we play them it's there.
Will Killian Doyle and Niall Mitchell be back?"
Someone in the Leinster Council doesn't like us because it always seems to be in Portlaoise
Either that or we're horrid unlucky in a coin toss.

Bigjoe1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 33 - 19/03/2023 17:56:29    2464843

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Neutral venue so that rules out Portlaoise. Leinster Council not involved in decision as it's a national competition

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1267 - 19/03/2023 18:50:46    2464865

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Neutral venue so that rules out Portlaoise. Leinster Council not involved in decision as it's a national competition"
If its a Neutral venue it'll be Tullamore most likely.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 632 - 19/03/2023 19:21:15    2464874

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Replying To Dheen:  "If its a Neutral venue it'll be Tullamore most likely."
Yeah, Tullamore looks the obvious venue.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 515 - 19/03/2023 19:48:52    2464888

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Westmeath and Laois should both be relegated. Kildare and Offaly should be promoted. Westmeath, Laois and Kerry should do the honourable thing and lead with a motion for change.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7594 - 19/03/2023 20:44:58    2464921

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Word coming out of ground is it may be a curtain raiser in Thurles ? Unfortunately we have gone back a lot from last year I know we are missing a few but so are all teams that's part of it. Very worried for Laois game.

puglerdaly (Westmeath) - Posts: 123 - 20/03/2023 09:36:24    2464986

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Replying To puglerdaly:  "Word coming out of ground is it may be a curtain raiser in Thurles ? Unfortunately we have gone back a lot from last year I know we are missing a few but so are all teams that's part of it. Very worried for Laois game."
I dont think we are as fit as we were in 2022.Maybe its imagination.Next weekend will all depend on the team we put out and the level of fitness.We will need our best 15 out and be up for it from the word go.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1314 - 20/03/2023 11:39:13    2465082

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