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Replying To jobber:  "Does anybody know are Robby Greville and David O Reilly injured?"
David O Reilly played for Moate CS during the week ,i heard he has taken time out due to school exams this year

Thechick (Westmeath) - Posts: 232 - 19/01/2023 08:01:19    2453037

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I don't agree with the u-20s playing senior, especially when they're not physically strong enough yet. The only u-20 that is physically strong enough is Darragh McCormack and he's injured. There seems to be a good u-20 panel this year, leave them to their own age group and let them develop. We had a good u-20 squad a few years ago and a senior manager ruined their chances.

stonemadbeany (USA) - Posts: 542 - 19/01/2023 11:54:30    2453066

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Replying To Thechick:  "David O Reilly played for Moate CS during the week ,i heard he has taken time out due to school exams this year"
Thanks maybe he is better being just with the 20s this year.We defintely will need Robbie and Gary Greville though.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1454 - 19/01/2023 12:03:05    2453069

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Replying To stonemadbeany:  "I don't agree with the u-20s playing senior, especially when they're not physically strong enough yet. The only u-20 that is physically strong enough is Darragh McCormack and he's injured. There seems to be a good u-20 panel this year, leave them to their own age group and let them develop. We had a good u-20 squad a few years ago and a senior manager ruined their chances."
100% agree. We'd a great set up and the senior management blocked best 5 of the U20 lads playing. Leave them to their own age group where possible. If they are a serious talent and making starting 15 with seniors then fair enough. Josh Coll was one of the 5 not released, where is he know.

Onionbagger (Westmeath) - Posts: 77 - 19/01/2023 13:29:21    2453085

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Replying To stonemadbeany:  "I don't agree with the u-20s playing senior, especially when they're not physically strong enough yet. The only u-20 that is physically strong enough is Darragh McCormack and he's injured. There seems to be a good u-20 panel this year, leave them to their own age group and let them develop. We had a good u-20 squad a few years ago and a senior manager ruined their chances."
I'd agree with that, some talented players on the u20 panel for this year the likes of Darragh McCormack, Peter Clarke, Eamonn Cunneen, David O'Reilly, Peter Murphy, Kevin Hogan, David Williams, Sean Jackson etc
They'll do well if left together.
The young players we should be introducing is the likes of Eoin Daly, David Devine and co on to the senior team.
Josh Coll and David Hickey should be there but the management clearly couldn't get them to join.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 781 - 19/01/2023 13:41:06    2453089

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Surely there should be word of when leagues are back by now.
A lot of counties even have dates for championship games out by now (meath), chance are players won't know championship dates until April may
How are players supposed to plan their lives

Bunbros11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 19/01/2023 15:29:55    2453103

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Replying To Dheen:  "I'd agree with that, some talented players on the u20 panel for this year the likes of Darragh McCormack, Peter Clarke, Eamonn Cunneen, David O'Reilly, Peter Murphy, Kevin Hogan, David Williams, Sean Jackson etc
They'll do well if left together.
The young players we should be introducing is the likes of Eoin Daly, David Devine and co on to the senior team.
Josh Coll and David Hickey should be there but the management clearly couldn't get them to join."
have to agree but its very dificult for counties of our size with such limited numbers

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1454 - 19/01/2023 20:58:01    2453136

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Replying To Bunbros11:  "Surely there should be word of when leagues are back by now.
A lot of counties even have dates for championship games out by now (meath), chance are players won't know championship dates until April may
How are players supposed to plan their lives"
lets be honest it doesnt take a genius to figure out that the championships will begin in early July

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1454 - 20/01/2023 08:14:03    2453147

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Replying To jobber:  "lets be honest it doesnt take a genius to figure out that the championships will begin in early July"
If it doesn't take a genius then why can't they set this in stone or communicate it

Bunbros11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 67 - 21/01/2023 14:51:40    2453306

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Replying To Bunbros11:  "If it doesn't take a genius then why can't they set this in stone or communicate it"
In case you're new to the GAA the County Board meet each January to adopt a planning report which sets the structures of all competitions for the year ahead. Only then can a master fixture list be prepared and issued.

midfield9 (Westmeath) - Posts: 102 - 21/01/2023 16:12:51    2453320

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Replying To midfield9:  "In case you're new to the GAA the County Board meet each January to adopt a planning report which sets the structures of all competitions for the year ahead. Only then can a master fixture list be prepared and issued."
And of course they cant be exactly sure when the county teams exit their championships.I would say that of the 35 on hurling panel over 30 play club football and probably over 20 of the footballers play club hurling.So no championship can begin till 2 weeks after the last teams exit.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1454 - 21/01/2023 18:15:55    2453338

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Replying To midfield9:  "In case you're new to the GAA the County Board meet each January to adopt a planning report which sets the structures of all competitions for the year ahead. Only then can a master fixture list be prepared and issued."
From Bunbrosna so not so sharp

CleanShoulder (Westmeath) - Posts: 270 - 21/01/2023 18:23:32    2453340

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I don't want to be one to criticise but after watching that game, the goalkeeping position is a huge problem for us and needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. The concession of a soft goal along with handy scores given away from poor puckouts. Very frustrating to watch.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 781 - 22/01/2023 15:33:55    2453406

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It's been a problem position for a number of years, there's no stand out keeper at club level unfortunately, in fact a number of senior and intermediate club teams have forty plus year olds in goals, likes of Andrew Mitchell, Martin Egan and Pat Burke and obviously that's no solution. Can anyone suggest a keeper with inter county potential playing at club level? Noel Conaty has been decent in recent years and somewhat surprisingly Westmeath management clearly don't rate Conor Bracken as he saw no action in Walsh Cup. Our county minors in recent years had a lad in goals who wouldn't play for his club last year so no obvious underage keeper coming through ranks. Solution may be to select an outfield club player with potential and give him time.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1486 - 22/01/2023 16:17:22    2453419

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "It's been a problem position for a number of years, there's no stand out keeper at club level unfortunately, in fact a number of senior and intermediate club teams have forty plus year olds in goals, likes of Andrew Mitchell, Martin Egan and Pat Burke and obviously that's no solution. Can anyone suggest a keeper with inter county potential playing at club level? Noel Conaty has been decent in recent years and somewhat surprisingly Westmeath management clearly don't rate Conor Bracken as he saw no action in Walsh Cup. Our county minors in recent years had a lad in goals who wouldn't play for his club last year so no obvious underage keeper coming through ranks. Solution may be to select an outfield club player with potential and give him time."
In fairness I have to agree Conaty has been decent in the goals over a number of years and everyone is entitled to a bad game.I am surprised though Bracken has got no game time.Who will be our under 20 keepers this year? This is a long term issue we need to address. Kieran Glennon and Aaron Mchugh have ability but the commitment?

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1454 - 22/01/2023 16:30:38    2453423

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Replying To jobber:  "In fairness I have to agree Conaty has been decent in the goals over a number of years and everyone is entitled to a bad game.I am surprised though Bracken has got no game time.Who will be our under 20 keepers this year? This is a long term issue we need to address. Kieran Glennon and Aaron Mchugh have ability but the commitment?"
Sean Jackson of Castletown is a young lad with great goalkeeping potential, however he has began to excel outfield for his club and may not choose to go back between the sticks. In saying that I'd say he could line out in goals for the u20s.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 781 - 22/01/2023 16:44:18    2453424

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Thought there was v little positives to take out of today, d goal was struck directly at him so ud imagine a routine save for a goalie at this level.
More worrying was the lack of physicality, granted were not an overly big team but we struggled to carry the ball out of defence and into attack, plus wides, wareward passes. Just as well it was a damp day or it could have been a lot worse.

Bigjoe1 (Westmeath) - Posts: 38 - 22/01/2023 17:23:10    2453444

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The most worrying aspect today was one score from play in opening 38 mins, that's a stat that no county at a remotely high level should have. Dublin's wholesale changes allowed us some leeway but not a good performance

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1486 - 22/01/2023 18:23:03    2453460

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "The most worrying aspect today was one score from play in opening 38 mins, that's a stat that no county at a remotely high level should have. Dublin's wholesale changes allowed us some leeway but not a good performance"
It was a very disappointing display overall and the stats you mentioned dont make for pleasant viewing. However we are notorious for starting a season slow and growing into it then. I also back Joe Fortune to improve the team further again this year.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 781 - 22/01/2023 18:51:56    2453471

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Hopefully you're right as our crucial games in league and championship are in April and June but we face very tough games in the league beforehand and possible hammerings won't do much for morale. Mark Cunningham only newcomer who might see significant game time in league.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1486 - 22/01/2023 19:13:57    2453475

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