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Replying To Dheen:  "Absolutely, I wouldn't be starting him in the Joe Mcdonagh to be honest. I don't want to slate any player but we haven't much chance of being competitive at Division 1 level with 14 players, discipline is key."
I agree.He got us relegated in O Moore park a couple of years ago. Our line the same as against Tipp were constantly at the officials.This isnt good either and causes two problems a bad reputation with refs and indscipline among the players.
A lot of improvement will be needed to win Mcdonagh.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1483 - 16/03/2024 17:37:24    2531434

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Agree re management, Fortune is deflecting from his coaching by non stop whining, happens in every game and we have a few locals involved with the set up who need no encouragement in that area. One starting forward scoring from play is very poor and while the sending off didn't help this was a most disappointing display, a mixed bag of league performances.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1525 - 16/03/2024 17:53:22    2531442

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Agree re management, Fortune is deflecting from his coaching by non stop whining, happens in every game and we have a few locals involved with the set up who need no encouragement in that area. One starting forward scoring from play is very poor and while the sending off didn't help this was a most disappointing display, a mixed bag of league performances."
Aonghus and Peter Clarke and Davy Glennon off the bench improved our scoring but ultimately the discipline overall let us down and we won't be able to afford the same indiscipline in the Joe Mcdonagh.
Very important we improve on this and get our best 15 out for every game going forward.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 822 - 16/03/2024 18:20:07    2531452

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "Agree re management, Fortune is deflecting from his coaching by non stop whining, happens in every game and we have a few locals involved with the set up who need no encouragement in that area. One starting forward scoring from play is very poor and while the sending off didn't help this was a most disappointing display, a mixed bag of league performances."
Agreed the three games in the middle ok but opening and closing games were being charitable very poor.Management should concentrate on getting our hurling right and let the officials do their job.I was beginning to believe we had progressed but today was a fiasco.The forwards a huge disappointment against a moderate Dublin team without their best defender.To my way of looking some of them are not fit enough and we have relied far too much on the under 20s.
We have a month to get it right.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1483 - 16/03/2024 18:33:15    2531460

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Replying To jobber:  "Agreed the three games in the middle ok but opening and closing games were being charitable very poor.Management should concentrate on getting our hurling right and let the officials do their job.I was beginning to believe we had progressed but today was a fiasco.The forwards a huge disappointment against a moderate Dublin team without their best defender.To my way of looking some of them are not fit enough and we have relied far too much on the under 20s.
We have a month to get it right."
Yeah that's true Jobber and the u20s are going to be more stretched now over the next while with the Leinster u20 championship starting shortly.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 822 - 16/03/2024 19:56:09    2531498

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Replying To Dheen:  "Yeah that's true Jobber and the u20s are going to be more stretched now over the next while with the Leinster u20 championship starting shortly."
exactly so the return of Glennon,,Greville,Clarke,,Cormac Boyle,Clavin,Shaw? to 100% fitnes becomes essential.Lets be honest apart from the 20s only Bermingham Mcgovern and Regan have made an impression of those trying to get into the starting 15

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1483 - 16/03/2024 20:40:11    2531517

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Minors start their campaign next weekend and the u20s the week after. Hopefully the seniors use the next month well to prepare for the Joe Mcdonagh.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 822 - 17/03/2024 10:17:13    2531611

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Massive disappointment yesterday. Just when I thought Dublin were there for the taking. I wonder did the players approach it the same way as they did with Antrim last year in the championship maybe a bit over confident or something. Maybe it will wake up the team and work harder for the mcdonagh now and not take anything for granted.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 741 - 17/03/2024 11:41:45    2531621

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Replying To jobber:  "exactly so the return of Glennon,,Greville,Clarke,,Cormac Boyle,Clavin,Shaw? to 100% fitnes becomes essential.Lets be honest apart from the 20s only Bermingham Mcgovern and Regan have made an impression of those trying to get into the starting 15"
What will happen to the u20's when all these big names came back, is this Fortunes plan to get all the big names back play them and leave the u20's aside, like Conor Gaffney, David williams, David O'Reilly Peter Clarke these lads surely to god have proven that they deserve a place in this team by now, I have seen David Williams over the last few games and he is well able to give a hit and take a hit he is steady on frees he had a serious game against tipp and Antrim was probably quiet yesterday i didnt get to make the game against the Dubs.. so is it wrong for Killian to come back and take over the frees and drop Williams say absolutely nothing against Doyle he is a serious hurler but wud it be wrong, Gaffney is a sticky player and has be doing great in corner back.

pollard123 (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 17/03/2024 12:07:12    2531629

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Replying To jobber:  "exactly so the return of Glennon,,Greville,Clarke,,Cormac Boyle,Clavin,Shaw? to 100% fitnes becomes essential.Lets be honest apart from the 20s only Bermingham Mcgovern and Regan have made an impression of those trying to get into the starting 15"
What will happen to the u20's when all these big names came back, is this Fortunes plan to get all the big names back play them and leave the u20's aside, like Conor Gaffney, David williams, David O'Reilly Peter Clarke these lads surely to god have proven that they deserve a place in this team by now, I have seen David Williams over the last few games and he is well able to give a hit and take a hit he is steady on frees he had a serious game against tipp and Antrim was probably quiet yesterday i didnt get to make the game against the Dubs.. so is it wrong for Killian to come back and take over the frees and drop Williams say absolutely nothing against Doyle he is a serious hurler but wud it be wrong, Gaffney is a sticky player and has be doing great in corner back.

pollard123 (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 17/03/2024 12:07:28    2531630

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Seem to always struggle vs Dublin

valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 17/03/2024 13:18:31    2531650

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Replying To preddan:  "Massive disappointment yesterday. Just when I thought Dublin were there for the taking. I wonder did the players approach it the same way as they did with Antrim last year in the championship maybe a bit over confident or something. Maybe it will wake up the team and work harder for the mcdonagh now and not take anything for granted."
How could we be overconfident ever vs Dublin? Our record against them is lamentable bar the water polo fiasco in Portlaoise in 2006

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1525 - 17/03/2024 13:48:43    2531659

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Replying To valley84:  "Seem to always struggle vs Dublin"
Always in that horrible ground.The Mcdonagh has to be the main target irrespective of how good we think the under 20s are.But a balance they deserve to have their players for the next few weeks.Fortune knows what they can do now.

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1483 - 17/03/2024 13:50:10    2531660

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "How could we be overconfident ever vs Dublin? Our record against them is lamentable bar the water polo fiasco in Portlaoise in 2006"
Well running by their results the past few years and this year why wouldn't you be kind of confident of taking a win. Limerick,tipp demolished them and they barely bet Antrim. That's all I mean

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 741 - 17/03/2024 14:02:31    2531665

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "How could we be overconfident ever vs Dublin? Our record against them is lamentable bar the water polo fiasco in Portlaoise in 2006"
Kind of undermining what was a great win for that Westmeath team that day in 2006.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 822 - 17/03/2024 14:10:12    2531669

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "How could we be overconfident ever vs Dublin? Our record against them is lamentable bar the water polo fiasco in Portlaoise in 2006"
Why do you want to downplay our acheivments in HURLING?
Is there an agenda there?
I dont know but its beginning to appear.Tell me you are a dual supporter not one of those"Downs" people who have to put up with Clonkill!!

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1483 - 17/03/2024 22:50:14    2531826

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Replying To preddan:  "Well running by their results the past few years and this year why wouldn't you be kind of confident of taking a win. Limerick,tipp demolished them and they barely bet Antrim. That's all I mean"
What's your basis for claiming we were complacent versus Antrim last May in championship? On the day Antrim were hugely impressive but putting our defeat down to complacency is way off. We lost by 14 points. My point is that we've never been in a position to be complacent about beating any side in the last 25 years bar likes of Wicklow, Derry possibly and Meath as we've always had the better of those sides.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 1525 - 17/03/2024 23:57:59    2531833

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "What's your basis for claiming we were complacent versus Antrim last May in championship? On the day Antrim were hugely impressive but putting our defeat down to complacency is way off. We lost by 14 points. My point is that we've never been in a position to be complacent about beating any side in the last 25 years bar likes of Wicklow, Derry possibly and Meath as we've always had the better of those sides."
I am only saying what I feel and I'm entitled to my opinion. I never said it was fact the team was complacent. Anyway I do believe the players and the talent is there to beat Dublin on a good day and you have to be thinking of beating teams on that tier(Dublin, wexford etc) to move on to the next level and not dwell in the doldrums of negativity always. I always try and support the county here and in the whole be positive for the years ahead.

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 741 - 19/03/2024 11:28:21    2532083

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David Williams finished top scorer in the 1B division. However will he remain on the frees with Killian back in the fray?

westmeathgaa11 (Westmeath) - Posts: 221 - 19/03/2024 12:02:30    2532095

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Replying To westmeathgaa11:  "David Williams finished top scorer in the 1B division. However will he remain on the frees with Killian back in the fray?"
Has to stay on them for me, he's deadly accurate.

Dheen (Westmeath) - Posts: 822 - 19/03/2024 12:04:43    2532096

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