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I think Wicklow should've been able to see out the game against Louth. I think the team had enough talent to compete against Kildare, Dublin and probably Meath in this year's championship but we will never know. It is disappointing that we've had talented team at u20 level recently but these teams have ultimately underachieved. Talent is one thing but winning is a different skill and as a county, our team seem to lack the skill to win close matches. Kildare and Dublin have dominated at this grade in the last decade. They don't always have the best players but they have a winning mentality which is built up over years of being consistent and winning at this level regularly.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1909 - 12/04/2023 12:09:13 2470487 Link 0 |
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Good win for the minor lads tonight in what I can only imagine were awful conditions. Not a bad week for the footballers all round! stringfellohawk (Wicklow) - Posts: 124 - 12/04/2023 20:48:07 2470677 Link 1 |
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I have to agree with you re the "winning mentality". Going back to what seems like a lifetime ago when we had a successful spell with our Vocational Schools. Year on year Wicklow was the team that no other county in Leinster wanted to draw in the first round. That setup had built the mentality that they almost expected to win. It was worth a few points every game. We live in hope that at some stage we can get back into that mode of belief and thinking.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 989 - 13/04/2023 09:44:37 2470702 Link 1 |
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A big shout out to Casey and team on todays victory. They seem to be getting back on track. Makes the Donegal result all the more puzzling Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 989 - 16/04/2023 20:47:26 2471277 Link 1 |
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Maybe Casey and the team are focusing on the championship competition as oppose to the league. The opposite seems to be happening here in Kildare and people are puzzled; Kildare had an excellent league campaign but are not faring so well in the championship. I think management teams pick times when they want to peak and maybe in this case, Casey and Co feel that they want to give the championship competition priority!!!!
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1909 - 17/04/2023 08:32:05 2471301 Link 0 |
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Kildare have a few injuries atm since the league and i think Carlow were sandbagging for the league. Could be all or nothing for Kildare in the last game versus Down to stay in the competition Anyhow the hendo red card could have been done without for the Fermanagh game. Should be there or there abouts when all said and done ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 540 - 18/04/2023 15:00:14 2471594 Link 0 |
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Best of luck to the Wicklow senior team and management on Sunday against Kildare. This will be a test of where we are at and definitely a setup in class from our last round. Kildare's form was patchy in the recent league but they have played in division 1 and 2 in the last two seasons and have reached the last two Leinster finals losing to Dublin. They will be hot favourites to win on Sunday despite an indifferent league campaign. I would say that confidence is not too high and we have nothing to lose on Sunday. It will be important that we don't concede goals as Kildare have some very good forwards who can get goals if given space and time. It will be interesting to see how management approach the game and how they target certain parts of the Kildare team and how we can get some advantage especially in attack. I think from Wicklow's perspective, the performance is more important than the result. That doesn't mean that we can't win this game so belief in the players will be important. Put it up to Kildare and test their confidence, don't assume that they took it easy in the league and geared themselves up for the championship. wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1909 - 21/04/2023 09:03:19 2472077 Link 0 |
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Good luck to the players and management for Sunday. Let's be postive and go at Kildare a win might be a little beyond us but here's hoping for a good run at them stringfellohawk (Wicklow) - Posts: 124 - 21/04/2023 12:26:10 2472151 Link 0 |
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That was a bit close for comfort. I know a win is a win but with the greatest of respect to Fermanagh, to be run to 2 pts by them will hardly put a smile of satisfaction on Casey's face. Is Danny injured ?? I think he has only played a couple of county matches this year and I didn't see him out for Glenealy either. In my opinion he is the best hurler in the county so the sooner he is back the better. It was good to see M Boland back today.This Nicky Rackard will take a bit of winning. Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 989 - 22/04/2023 18:30:50 2472471 Link 0 |
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Yes, the very best of luck to all tomorrow. If the lads play to their potential they can give a good account. Kildare are much better than they showed in the league but I would hate to think we were back to the dark old days of trying to keep the score line respectable.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 989 - 22/04/2023 18:35:08 2472473 Link 0 |
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Best of luck Wicklow. Fingers crossed. Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 23/04/2023 13:48:15 2472715 Link 0 |
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Fermanagh have 1 senior club as far as I know, they used to have maybe one or two more years ago, but v small playing numbers nonetheless. Wicklow in all fairness need to be winning those kinda games by a lot more
preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 733 - 23/04/2023 14:11:51 2472729 Link 0 |
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I never judge a team either football or hurling on one game. Just like the footballers we need to assess the progress at the end of the season. Assessing if progress is being made in relation to last year using both league and championship. Without seeing the game i would imagine the performance was below par considering the scoreline but the result is what counts. Improvement will be required if we are to compete and beat superior opposition with all due respects to Fermanagh.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1909 - 23/04/2023 16:47:59 2472793 Link 0 |
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Just back from that, we did not produce what we are capable of, but at least we are not playing the Dubs next week. sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2897 - 23/04/2023 17:43:16 2472810 Link 0 |
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Leinster has been dead years as has Munster. Move Kerry & the Dubs to Ulster or even rotate them between Ulster & Connacht.
SimonstownBack (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 23/04/2023 18:08:08 2472834 Link 1 |
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Unfortunately I wasn't able to attend the game in Carlow today which was a disappointment. Firstly, in the bigger picture I don't think the result today will have much bearing on our season overall. Of course, you would want to go out and play your best and win but in terms of development, today was experience for a young squad. I think the most important goals for the squad was promotion to division 3. And a good run in the Tailteann cup and possible victory. Even if we won today, we would be playing Dublin in the semi final which wouldn't do the squad any good. It is very difficult to play in division 4 regularly and then play a division 1 or division 2 team. There is a gap between the top two and bottom two divisions which won't be bridged in a few months. In relation to Leinster football, yes, the province has been dead for the best part of twenty years. Meath are on a downward spiral which leaves Kildare who aren't in a good place themselves to try and compete with Dublin. I would pick Louth to get to the Leinster final but again, could I see them challenge Dublin? probably not. As a meath poster alluded to, munster has the same problem with Kerry being even further ahead of the rest of the province than Dublin in Leinster. Anyway, onto the Tailteann cup and see how we fare in that competition.
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1909 - 23/04/2023 18:24:10 2472853 Link 1 |
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I'm with preddan on this one. It's one thing to be trying to survive at this level. It's totally another thing if you have aspirations to have a go at winning the competition. This wouldn't be the first time that this team have just survived when expected to have life a little easier. However a win is a win so we will see how this all pans out. As I said earlier Casey and the lads will know betterthan me what is expected or required to lift silverware.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 989 - 23/04/2023 18:49:10 2472875 Link 0 |
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I wasn't at todays match either but from listening to reports it went much as I expected. We must remember that we have just escaped from the basement division and some would say we were lucky to do so. I wouldn't expect too much in the TC. To me the aim should be building towards consolidating our position in Div 3 next year. To me the team needs strengthening. 20 pts is a lot to concede and 10 isn't enough to win many games. However the lads are young and all this experience will stand to them. In my opinion we are at least 5 years off challenging for anything.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 989 - 23/04/2023 18:57:06 2472880 Link 0 |
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At the game today...scoreline was a bit unfair on the players...they just totally ran out of steam in the last 10 minutes. To be fair every single player gave whatever they had and their can be no complaints about the endeavour...just looking at the teams when they lined out and the difference in conditioning was plain to see but I do think we are going in the right direction which is good going forward stringfellohawk (Wicklow) - Posts: 124 - 23/04/2023 20:41:01 2472940 Link 1 |
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I couldn't attend but I was trying to follow up and it seemed that way. Watching the very brief highlights last night, we missed a guilt goal chance at a crucial time which would have made a big difference. Fair play to the players, I know people will say that at the end of the day they lost by 10 points which is fact but to stay with a division 2 team for sixty minutes is encouraging. And as supporters, all we can ask for is that the players give it their all. I'm not surprised by the conditioning. This is something that takes time to build up. I see games in both Kildare and Wicklow; physique and intensity in club games is completely different in Kildare than in Wicklow. This is definitely an area that we can work on and build up with the right planning. I am sure Oisin is aware of this. Does anyone know when the draw for the Tailteann cup is being made?
wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1909 - 24/04/2023 09:10:07 2473054 Link 0 |