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Replying To stringfellohawk:  "Lads let's get real here the Wicklow County Board will do zero about this just like in the huge number of similar brawls throughout the County over the years. We will hear the usual defenses from the clubs iinvolved I.e. it was only one or two lads fighting and the whole club shouldn't be blamed for their actions etc erc. There will be no bans of players or mentors involved, no fines for the clubs, nothing to see here let's keep drifting along the same way we always do"
This was an underage game it should be dealt with severly by the child welfare officers and the county board. How are half wits like this allowed be involved with teams? Who vets them?
Wouldn't entice people to let their kids get involved .

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1392 - 10/10/2021 16:51:01    2385124

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The draw has been made for the quarter finals of the football championship. Some interesting ties, the standout tie is Dunlavin against Rathnew - Dunlavin surprised Tinahely today which is a surprise to me as i thought Tinahely could go all the way, so much for that prediction. Can Dunlavin upset Rathnew? Baltinglass seem to be struggling so Donard will fancy their chances. St Pats and AGB will fancy their chances of reaching the semi finals.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1438 - 10/10/2021 19:38:48    2385146

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "The draw has been made for the quarter finals of the football championship. Some interesting ties, the standout tie is Dunlavin against Rathnew - Dunlavin surprised Tinahely today which is a surprise to me as i thought Tinahely could go all the way, so much for that prediction. Can Dunlavin upset Rathnew? Baltinglass seem to be struggling so Donard will fancy their chances. St Pats and AGB will fancy their chances of reaching the semi finals."
My money is on AGB this year. A good young team, well coached and prepared. St Pats will be hard beat but I think they can get over them.
I know you cannot write off Balto or Ratnew but just feel AGB have what it takes

hurlingnut (Wicklow) - Posts: 311 - 10/10/2021 21:55:23    2385172

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Replying To hurlingnut:  "My money is on AGB this year. A good young team, well coached and prepared. St Pats will be hard beat but I think they can get over them.
I know you cannot write off Balto or Ratnew but just feel AGB have what it takes"
My money will stay in my pocket, I think. This year has seen some unexpected results. The unbeaten teams need looking at, even allowing for the two surprise packets. Rathnew struggled against Bray and AGB had a good win here. Balto are struggling, as are Blessington to my mind. I think the winner might come out of the AGB v Pats tie, although I also think that whoever wants to win it will have to deal with Rathnew. Either way, the money stays in the pocket

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 413 - 11/10/2021 10:35:34    2385199

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "The people involved in these kind of incidents should be given length bans and prosecuted if required, however these individuals are in the minority. I don't like the way these type of incidents are reported in the national media. Wicklow is not the only county where this happens but it is protrayed as such. These individuals are not contributing to games in the county by behaving this way and if they can't behave in a civilised manner and be good role modela then they have no place being involved at any level especially not at juvenile level."
Agree 100%. Clubs involved should also show leadership and cooperate fully with investigation and suspend there own members where appropriate. However I am not optimistic that will happen. They will probably circle the wagons.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1449 - 11/10/2021 12:42:55    2385225

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I've seen a few championship matches this year and my conclusion is that there are no outstanding teams and no standout players. I am pessimistic for the county team based upon what i've seen. I wonder what other people think of the overall standard on show?

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1438 - 11/10/2021 13:13:14    2385231

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "I've seen a few championship matches this year and my conclusion is that there are no outstanding teams and no standout players. I am pessimistic for the county team based upon what i've seen. I wonder what other people think of the overall standard on show?"
How can an entire championship not have a single standout player? Even if you think the standard of the championship is low, there are still standout players? Is the top scorer of a championship not a standout player?

Did Tinahely (who you previously praised as having stand out players) who lost both games, not lose to some standout players? Gary Allen and Patrick O'Connor both stood out for me in the games I saw them play against Tinahely.

Victorious87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 501 - 11/10/2021 13:52:37    2385239

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Replying To Victorious87:  "How can an entire championship not have a single standout player? Even if you think the standard of the championship is low, there are still standout players? Is the top scorer of a championship not a standout player?

Did Tinahely (who you previously praised as having stand out players) who lost both games, not lose to some standout players? Gary Allen and Patrick O'Connor both stood out for me in the games I saw them play against Tinahely."
When I say a standout player, let me clarify. I am looking at it from the perspective of potential county players. Yes, there are players who stand out in matches that i have attended but would they stand out against higher class opposition if playing for the county in Division 3 or if we were to some how be promoted to Division 2 and I don't see these type of players. There are some good standard club players but do they have what it takes to move the next level and stand out on the inter county scene?

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1438 - 12/10/2021 11:45:13    2385344

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Replying To stringfellohawk:  "Lads let's get real here the Wicklow County Board will do zero about this just like in the huge number of similar brawls throughout the County over the years. We will hear the usual defenses from the clubs iinvolved I.e. it was only one or two lads fighting and the whole club shouldn't be blamed for their actions etc erc. There will be no bans of players or mentors involved, no fines for the clubs, nothing to see here let's keep drifting along the same way we always do"
I saw much worse at a South Tipp U16B hurling final 5 years ago.
Board members all saw what happened.
Not another word about it afterwards.

Moyle (Tipperary) - Posts: 60 - 13/10/2021 10:19:28    2385448

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Replying To Moyle:  "I saw much worse at a South Tipp U16B hurling final 5 years ago.
Board members all saw what happened.
Not another word about it afterwards."
Thank you Moyles. To read and listen to the media, this kind of thing only happens in Wicklow. We are so backward. The story of the referee keeps being brought up. The County Board should and needs to punish clubs and individuals involved in these type of incidents to ensure it is stamped out. Equally the GAA as an organisation needs to acknowledge that this type of incidents happens throughout Ireland and do something to force county boards to clamp down on these type of events for everyone's benefit.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1438 - 13/10/2021 10:55:01    2385461

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Back to the subject of the manager of the Wicklow Senior Footballers. It seems like many counties are making their arrangements early. Cork being the latest. Some of the jobs became vacant after ours and are now filled. I realise there is hardly scour for the job but surely it isn't that difficult to fill it. The announcement will probably be in our Christmas Stockings.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 413 - 13/10/2021 18:27:33    2385570

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Replying To Freethinker:  "Back to the subject of the manager of the Wicklow Senior Footballers. It seems like many counties are making their arrangements early. Cork being the latest. Some of the jobs became vacant after ours and are now filled. I realise there is hardly scour for the job but surely it isn't that difficult to fill it. The announcement will probably be in our Christmas Stockings."
You are right, you would have expected a manager to be announced at this stage especially with the local championship reaching its conclusion. On the surface i wouldn't expect a long list of candidates but hopefully there is sufficient interest. This is an important appointment as the division three campaign will be very competitive and it is imperative that wevat least stay in the division and build upon what has been achieved in recent years.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1438 - 14/10/2021 13:10:13    2385635

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "You are right, you would have expected a manager to be announced at this stage especially with the local championship reaching its conclusion. On the surface i wouldn't expect a long list of candidates but hopefully there is sufficient interest. This is an important appointment as the division three campaign will be very competitive and it is imperative that wevat least stay in the division and build upon what has been achieved in recent years."
I would imagine the brief is to take as long as it takes to get the "right" candidate. That's all fine and dandy but our last two managers, at least, and this is no slight of any of the many others we have had over the past number of years, have been out of the top drawer. Both have cut their tenure short. Nobody seems to ask why. I don't buy that one about latter day managers moving on after a couple of years. What manager would walk away if he thought he was on the cusp of a breakthrough with a county like Wicklow ? He would be immortalised in verse and song and could name his own ticket wherever he decided to move on to. No, there are other forces at play here - whether that be shortage of, or finance for, resources or just plain refusal to give the incumbent too much say in players or access to players. There is a story here somewhere, so the very best of luck to the new man whenever he is appointed. And I say again, whoever he is he will receive no criticism from this quarter, but he will need to nail down his "terms and conditions" pretty well at the outset or we will be back here again in a another year or two.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 413 - 15/10/2021 08:43:16    2385700

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Replying To Freethinker:  "Back to the subject of the manager of the Wicklow Senior Footballers. It seems like many counties are making their arrangements early. Cork being the latest. Some of the jobs became vacant after ours and are now filled. I realise there is hardly scour for the job but surely it isn't that difficult to fill it. The announcement will probably be in our Christmas Stockings."
You would hope the delay is based on maybe looking to appoint/interview a management team still involved in the club championship. If we are going outside the county then the prospective manager has probably not seen a minute of club championship.

Victorious87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 501 - 15/10/2021 09:13:57    2385703

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Replying To Freethinker:  "I would imagine the brief is to take as long as it takes to get the "right" candidate. That's all fine and dandy but our last two managers, at least, and this is no slight of any of the many others we have had over the past number of years, have been out of the top drawer. Both have cut their tenure short. Nobody seems to ask why. I don't buy that one about latter day managers moving on after a couple of years. What manager would walk away if he thought he was on the cusp of a breakthrough with a county like Wicklow ? He would be immortalised in verse and song and could name his own ticket wherever he decided to move on to. No, there are other forces at play here - whether that be shortage of, or finance for, resources or just plain refusal to give the incumbent too much say in players or access to players. There is a story here somewhere, so the very best of luck to the new man whenever he is appointed. And I say again, whoever he is he will receive no criticism from this quarter, but he will need to nail down his "terms and conditions" pretty well at the outset or we will be back here again in a another year or two."
I agree. If it takes longer to get the right candidate, i would prefer this option than rushing the appointment and getting it wrong. In fairness to the county board/committe, they have got the last two appointments right so hopefully lessons have been learned from the past. In relation to Davy Burke's resignation i don't know the reasons - he seemed happy in Wicklow so maybe he wanted a shot at the Kildare job so didn't wang to compromise his position by being involved with Wicklow or as you say maybe it was about resources. Maybeche felt he didn't have enough players committed to the county to push on or maybe he felt the players in the county aren't there to push on for promotion to division 2. I assume someone knows the answers.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1438 - 15/10/2021 11:04:01    2385725

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Well Colin Kelly is the new man in charge of the footballers...what do people think? Not sure if I know too much about his managerial record

stringfellohawk (Wicklow) - Posts: 35 - 15/10/2021 21:34:09    2385789

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What are peoples thoughts on Colin Kelly being named manager?Have to say myself i was taken aback by it and was very underwhelmed had to google him, that might be my gaa knowledge letting me down.His track record with Louth looks impressive but Westmeath looks worrying,Im not convinced that hes of any higher quality than names that have been rumored but I am relieved that it isnt Kevin O Brien as I think he shouldnt be thrown into the deep end and should stick with the U20s for awhile more. Time will tell whether i was right to be underwhelmed but I wish him the best of luckand wont be calling for his head anytime soon.

Wicklowtvhater (Wicklow) - Posts: 9 - 15/10/2021 21:48:08    2385791

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Replying To wicklowsupport:  "I agree. If it takes longer to get the right candidate, i would prefer this option than rushing the appointment and getting it wrong. In fairness to the county board/committe, they have got the last two appointments right so hopefully lessons have been learned from the past. In relation to Davy Burke's resignation i don't know the reasons - he seemed happy in Wicklow so maybe he wanted a shot at the Kildare job so didn't wang to compromise his position by being involved with Wicklow or as you say maybe it was about resources. Maybeche felt he didn't have enough players committed to the county to push on or maybe he felt the players in the county aren't there to push on for promotion to division 2. I assume someone knows the answers."
So, Colin Kelly is the new man. Don't know much about him but the very best of luck to him.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 413 - 15/10/2021 22:05:39    2385793

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Replying To Wicklowtvhater:  "What are peoples thoughts on Colin Kelly being named manager?Have to say myself i was taken aback by it and was very underwhelmed had to google him, that might be my gaa knowledge letting me down.His track record with Louth looks impressive but Westmeath looks worrying,Im not convinced that hes of any higher quality than names that have been rumored but I am relieved that it isnt Kevin O Brien as I think he shouldnt be thrown into the deep end and should stick with the U20s for awhile more. Time will tell whether i was right to be underwhelmed but I wish him the best of luckand wont be calling for his head anytime soon."
Best of luck to Colin Kelly and his management team. A manager with a strong track record of getting team promoted in the league which is where we need to focus as a county. Hopefully he can keep us in division 3 this year and push on for promotion to division 2. I hope Kevin remains on as under 20s boss. I would also like to see the county board put forward a proposal to croke park for funding in terms of team preparation, there seems to be a push from some of the weaker counties for this type of funding which is not before time considering the gulf in resources between the top teams and the rest in this regard. This is more a priority than what is being voted on in congress next weekend.

wicklowsupport (Wicklow) - Posts: 1438 - 16/10/2021 16:25:43    2385838

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Has anyone heard who will be involved in the new backroom staff under Colin Kelly?

Victorious87 (Wicklow) - Posts: 501 - 18/10/2021 13:05:00    2386065

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