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Replying To KillingFields:  "what that be normal?
Who else would normally be in semi finals out east/west of city?"
Monaleen, Na Piarsaigh are Suburban clubs and Mungret at a stretch. To say any of the other clubs are in any way 'city clubs' is a fallacy . It tries to paper over the cracks of the one big negative in this great times of success. That is the desolate wasteland of hurling in the inner city. Not a senior club for 50,000 inner city people . A crying shame.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 28/09/2022 19:35:42    2442178

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Monaleen, Na Piarsaigh are Suburban clubs and Mungret at a stretch. To say any of the other clubs are in any way 'city clubs' is a fallacy . It tries to paper over the cracks of the one big negative in this great times of success. That is the desolate wasteland of hurling in the inner city. Not a senior club for 50,000 inner city people . A crying shame."
Is there no club that covers that area at all? Do Na Piarsiagh not cover the inner city? I wouldnt be very familiar with the Limerick clubs especially in or around the city....

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 29/09/2022 11:15:06    2442213

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Is there no club that covers that area at all? Do Na Piarsiagh not cover the inner city? I wouldnt be very familiar with the Limerick clubs especially in or around the city...."
GAA clubs are invariably family/community-based; the sins of the fathers are the sins of the sons, and the same lineage can be traced back to the time the club began. There are many exceptions but invariably in rural Ireland, the same family names have been there since time immemorial.

Hurling has never really been strong in the inner city of Limerick; Claughaun being a notable exception. Mungret which touches in upon the city; Old Christians which goes out to South Liberties in East Limerick; St. Patrick's who are confined by area rather than number; and Treaty Sarsfields, once the kingpins of senior club football in the whole of Limerick, are all clubs that need to be mentioned.

Many factors influence that weakening of clubs like Claughaun and Sarsfields. Most buildings or premises are commercial/business based. People rent one-room/two-room flats in the inner city, but it's not really a place where you're going to raise generations of the same family (exceptions exist). Socio-economic factors also influence so much.

I lived in Limerick many decades ago, and the closest GAA pitch to the city center was, if I remember correctly, Claughaun out on Childers Rd. But back then, that was considered rural Limerick. Now it's considered the inner-city.

I think you Irish lads need to define/redefine what and where the inner-city is!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1910 - 30/09/2022 10:20:48    2442297

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There's no parish rule in Limerick City so you can hurl with whomever you want. Our American friend is right about Claughaun being the closest pitch to the city centre . They would have been the standard bearers for inner city hurling throughout the 70s and 80s but have been in the doldrums for 30 years plus.. Treaty Sarsfields were Northside powerhouses in Thomondgate and they folded in the 90s whilst being a fantastic hurling and football club in the 50s and 60s especially. Young Irelands before them were massive but again no home pitch .Na Piarsaigh kind of took over on the North side but the Caseys and Dempseys with Na Piarsaigh are farmers sons and there would have been no farmers on Treaty sarsfield teams so Na Piarsaighis suburban and does not appeal to the inner city .Technically if your in the inner city ,yea there's flats and single people but there are thousands of families in huge estates. These people play Junior soccer and some rugby. Very strong clubs in both codes there.. Fairview ,Pike rovers ect. Then young munster in tbe rugby, Thomond and Richmond ect.
Traditionally Limerick have only been successfull with about a third of the team from the city. Now there's 1 or 2 only . Hegarty being the shining light with St Pats...Not a sign of a Claughaun or Old Christian player or Ballinacurra player. It's sad because the tradition is actually there. Iv banged this drum for years. There needs to be one new Superclub covering the city centre and let Claughaun and Old Christians and Pats amalgamate into this.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 30/09/2022 16:39:49    2442342

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I'd say inner city's in other cities aren't producing much either , the Dublin inner city from Croke park to Grafton street on the south side probably has no gaa club at all and could have 100,000 people living in that area .
As said earlier lots of flats and short term rentals , foreign nationals working in hospitality etc . Soccer is often strong in these areas , young Munster are in ballinacurra but not many of their players are from the inner city .Many middle class people of limerick city live in cahirdaven , Castletroy or Raheen and these are well served by very good clubs in Na piarsaigh , Monaleen and Mungret .
I'd be more concerned about the small rural clubs who are disappearing underage and haven't a prayer against the Monaleens or Na Piarsaughs in underage hurling .

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 673 - 30/09/2022 19:27:03    2442365

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Well the rural clubs 'disappearing' is down to low numbers and there's no way around that except through divisions ( works well for tiny clubs in jerry and cork) or amalgamation ( which I think is the worst option). The problem In places like Janesboro, Prospect, South Circular Road , Childers Road area ,Thomondgate ect is there are tonnes of people ,not transients or new Irish and they have no club of a high standard looking to get a hurley in their Kids hands. Ahuge tradition in Thomondgate and none of em hurling with Na Piarsaigh

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 01/10/2022 18:05:46    2442429

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Well the rural clubs 'disappearing' is down to low numbers and there's no way around that except through divisions ( works well for tiny clubs in jerry and cork) or amalgamation ( which I think is the worst option). The problem In places like Janesboro, Prospect, South Circular Road , Childers Road area ,Thomondgate ect is there are tonnes of people ,not transients or new Irish and they have no club of a high standard looking to get a hurley in their Kids hands. Ahuge tradition in Thomondgate and none of em hurling with Na Piarsaigh"
Maybe if Monaleen, Mungret and Na Pairsaigh stop taking the best players from the areas of the three city clubs you always seem to have a issue with might help, with monaleen, mungret and na pairsaigh having second and third teams at underage, would it not be better to have them children playing with a first team with the three city clubs you don't like,the drop off come adult level is huge from monaleen, mungret and na pairsaigh but let's keep blaming the three city clubs you don't like.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 03/10/2022 17:01:23    2442687

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Replying To bloodyban:  "There's no parish rule in Limerick City so you can hurl with whomever you want. Our American friend is right about Claughaun being the closest pitch to the city centre . They would have been the standard bearers for inner city hurling throughout the 70s and 80s but have been in the doldrums for 30 years plus.. Treaty Sarsfields were Northside powerhouses in Thomondgate and they folded in the 90s whilst being a fantastic hurling and football club in the 50s and 60s especially. Young Irelands before them were massive but again no home pitch .Na Piarsaigh kind of took over on the North side but the Caseys and Dempseys with Na Piarsaigh are farmers sons and there would have been no farmers on Treaty sarsfield teams so Na Piarsaighis suburban and does not appeal to the inner city .Technically if your in the inner city ,yea there's flats and single people but there are thousands of families in huge estates. These people play Junior soccer and some rugby. Very strong clubs in both codes there.. Fairview ,Pike rovers ect. Then young munster in tbe rugby, Thomond and Richmond ect.
Traditionally Limerick have only been successfull with about a third of the team from the city. Now there's 1 or 2 only . Hegarty being the shining light with St Pats...Not a sign of a Claughaun or Old Christian player or Ballinacurra player. It's sad because the tradition is actually there. Iv banged this drum for years. There needs to be one new Superclub covering the city centre and let Claughaun and Old Christians and Pats amalgamate into this."
You bang about it but haven't a clue about it,the three clubs don't want to amalgamate,what is needed is support from the county board to the inner city clubs which has never happened,the clubs in the Southside need help not a super club that will have no support from the clubs.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 03/10/2022 17:07:06    2442689

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You mean continuing as is until these Southside clubs go out of existence. That's not being pro active. Contrary to your opinion I have great time for the 3 clubs. But what's happening now isn't working. Like you say they arent attracting kids. That's the bottom line. What kind of support should they get ?,a task force

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 04/10/2022 17:33:14    2442811

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What a pity there are so many matches on today and clashing with the senior quarter final..could both quarters not have been played together tomorrow??imagine the crowd and atmosphere that would have been created..my own club have a match today so I won't get to senior game..also I notice great offers in clare at discount rates if one decides to go to a number of games..they also have live streaming with great offers to..ive heard nothing about any matches being streamed this weekend..am I being over critical??

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2217 - 08/10/2022 11:47:51    2443176

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Apologies I've just heard matches are being live streamed..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2217 - 08/10/2022 11:50:32    2443177

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Best of luck to Ray Dempsey on his appointment as Limerick football manager. Hope he continues the upward trajectory of Limerick football undergone under Billy Lee. Limerick for Sam and Liam 2023!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1910 - 08/10/2022 13:44:24    2443187

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Best of luck to Ray Dempsey on his appointment as Limerick football manager. Hope he continues the upward trajectory of Limerick football undergone under Billy Lee. Limerick for Sam and Liam 2023!"
Best of Luck to Ray. Iv a feeling he ll do a decent job but we all know how this circle goes. They are at their ceiling right now. They might stay in the Division for a year but they ll probably go down. Then Ray will state the obvious..something along the lines of the footballers don't have the resources of the hurlers ect. Then he might even state the bleeding obvious that gaelic football is way down the list after hurling soccer and rugby in Limerick. Players will drift away and then the rebuild . The cycle starts again from Division four.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 08/10/2022 16:07:53    2443192

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Best of Luck to Ray. Iv a feeling he ll do a decent job but we all know how this circle goes. They are at their ceiling right now. They might stay in the Division for a year but they ll probably go down. Then Ray will state the obvious..something along the lines of the footballers don't have the resources of the hurlers ect. Then he might even state the bleeding obvious that gaelic football is way down the list after hurling soccer and rugby in Limerick. Players will drift away and then the rebuild . The cycle starts again from Division four."
Oh! Thank you for such a positive and upbeat assessment. Perhaps, once upon a time within our lifespan footballing counties like Tyrone, Derry, Donegal, Armagh who'd never won Sam before had the same attitude that you have; a hurling county like Offaly in the same boat.

Admittedly, it's even tougher these days to make the breakthrough than it used to be, but why throw the towel in before you even start?

I've followed your posts for quite a while now, bloodyban, as I follow this Limerick forum actively. I cannot help but notice that you were a lot louder and posted a lot more pre-2018. And then, your comments were for the most part very negative about Limerick hurling and Limerick hurlers.

They've given you fck all to be negative about since then. So, turn your negativity to the Limerick footballers? I just posted my best wishes to Ray Dempsey and the future of the county footballers. I didn't ask for your fkn crystal-ball analysis of it all, even before it has begun.

You may be right, but I've you sussed as one of those many Irish people that I've crossed paths with over many years and many pints: you're best happy when you're complaining and feeling miserable! When a team loses, it actually provides a forum for voices like yours.

Go back to 2017, and be happier with your life!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1910 - 08/10/2022 18:26:18    2443202

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Bloodyban your negativity is beyond disbelief..give ray Dempsey and the footballers a bloody chance..let's judge everything after his two year term..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2217 - 08/10/2022 19:57:12    2443221

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Replying To bloodyban:  "You mean continuing as is until these Southside clubs go out of existence. That's not being pro active. Contrary to your opinion I have great time for the 3 clubs. But what's happening now isn't working. Like you say they arent attracting kids. That's the bottom line. What kind of support should they get ?,a task force"
Go forward and create a new Southside club with zero support from the county board while the bigger clubs take your best players,you Have zero knowledge and your only happy putting down the amazing work the people in those clubs do, your post about our senior footballers confirms that

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 09/10/2022 15:46:12    2443276

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Replying To bloodyban:  "You mean continuing as is until these Southside clubs go out of existence. That's not being pro active. Contrary to your opinion I have great time for the 3 clubs. But what's happening now isn't working. Like you say they arent attracting kids. That's the bottom line. What kind of support should they get ?,a task force"
Just support from the county board as promised would be a start.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 09/10/2022 15:47:47    2443277

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Replying To bloodyban:  "You mean continuing as is until these Southside clubs go out of existence. That's not being pro active. Contrary to your opinion I have great time for the 3 clubs. But what's happening now isn't working. Like you say they arent attracting kids. That's the bottom line. What kind of support should they get ?,a task force"
Two south teams in relageation final in the football,no south team made the senior football quarters,no south team made the quarter finals in the hurling, only Killmalock made the semi final,no south team made the semi or quarter final of the intermediate football,will we make a super club in the south of limerick too.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 775 - 09/10/2022 15:55:56    2443279

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Replying To cityman73:  "Two south teams in relageation final in the football,no south team made the senior football quarters,no south team made the quarter finals in the hurling, only Killmalock made the semi final,no south team made the semi or quarter final of the intermediate football,will we make a super club in the south of limerick too."
Please to not attempt to bully me by making everything personal. Gaelic football is the number 4 sport in Limerick. I dont have any gra for it at all.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 09/10/2022 17:02:00    2443288

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Am I right in saying that a limerick semi and the hurling final were mentioned as being shown on television?i have seen Gaa advertised for weekend and a limerick semi definitely isn't been shown.

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2217 - 11/10/2022 20:39:22    2443644

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